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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 2 @ 11:03 AM ET
Wrong.

DGAF anymore.

You guys can speculate all you want as to why this non essential player wasn't signed to an extension mid season.

And for those using the word, "arbiter", you're wrong. It's "arbitrator".

Carry on.

Tuch it, Beady.

- Powerslave



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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 11:07 AM ET
That might be the only reason I am in favor of a downtown stadium. If done right, it can give the city a much-needed facelift. A convention center, if done right can too.
- buffalofan19


I know it is a pain in the ass to get out of the stadium in Jacksonville

I don't think Buffalo has the infrastructure downtown that can handle 65,000 people leaving at once
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
I was just there... They aren't wrong.
But I guess comparing Nashville to Buffalo is apples to oranges.
idk much about Jackoffville.

- jochfr



Just where? Jacksonville?

Downtown Jacksonville is a ghost town
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
Iron maiden guy is going to argue with you for pages


I agree , another low ball offer

- Boss34


The McCabe one is not a ridiculous team ask imo. It's low but not insultingly so.

I think Ullmark's offer is a little insulting to be honest. $800k is ELC money, not a legit ask for a 26 year old with 60 games played and a .910 sv%

Marty was saying on the instigators that this could be one of those "bad" arbitration hearings. We don't need a demoralized goalie whose team says he sucks
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
I know it is a pain in the ass to get out of the stadium in Jacksonville

I don't think Buffalo has the infrastructure downtown that can handle 65,000 people leaving at once

- Stripes77



That's why I said "if done right". That would have to be a factor and a consideration.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
Seems like the Sabres are pushing the "Sabres dance" as the song they play while entering the ice.

Time to start winning
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 2 @ 11:14 AM ET
That's why I said "if done right". That would have to be a factor and a consideration.
- buffalofan19


The stadium would need to have a metro rail station built in. And they would probably need to buy more trains
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 2 @ 11:15 AM ET
The McCabe one is not a ridiculous team ask imo. It's low but not insultingly so.

I think Ullmark's offer is a little insulting to be honest. $800k is ELC money, not a legit ask for a 26 year old with 60 games played and a .910 sv%

Marty was saying on the instigators that this could be one of those "bad" arbitration hearings. We don't need a demoralized goalie whose team says he sucks

- jcragcrumple



Good post,

Although McCabe didnt share ice time as a rookie last season, as did ullmark.

Interesting what the ARBITER says
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 2 @ 11:15 AM ET
Team goes low, player goes high,
Arbitrator usually picks close to the middle

Kinda seems pointless

- jdfitz77


Pretty much...so like $3.1m
I wonder if his injury history/games played gets factored in to reduce e that by say ~10%+/-
...to something like $2.8m
Seems reasonable...probably why they won't, lol.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 2 @ 11:18 AM ET
Dude what
- BeadyEyedDouche


buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 2 @ 11:18 AM ET
The stadium would need to have a metro rail station built in. And they would probably need to buy more trains
- jcragcrumple



And more lines that extend to both the Northtowns and the Southtowns.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 11:22 AM ET
Singletary is going to be a star this season.

Future is now.

Yeldon can head back to Jacksonville, maybe you guys can go out for a drink

- Boss34

yeldon in a good 3rd down back and 2 minute back

I expect him to have a good amount of snaps with the bills
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 11:24 AM ET
Speaking of Jacksonville:

https://buffalonews.com/2...s-how-to-revive-our-city/

All of that crap they talked about the city of Buffalo when the two teams met in the playoffs and now they're asking for help


- Stripes77

what trump calls baltimore and chicago, and california

he could say the same about downtown jacksonville, and he would not be wrong


he needs to win florida so he doesn't talk about it

downtown jacksonville is a sh!thole

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Aug 2 @ 11:28 AM ET
Wacked out?

McCabe averages 20 min per game.
Plays penalty kill
Brings physicality
Is productive “when healthy”
That is his only knock.

McCabe is 3.75 per IMO.

- ImThatGuy

Nurse and Zadorov are both a year younger and are better players both signed for $3.2m. Will Butcher just signed for $3.5m and Sanheim for $3.2m. So yes, his ask is whacked. The Sabres offer is low, but that is how negotiations work. And even if it is low, it is still more than a $300k raise for a player that couldn't manage to stay healthy for even 60 games the last two years. Also, over the last three years he's been on the ice for an average of more than a goal per game.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 2 @ 11:28 AM ET
what trump calls baltimore and chicago, and california

he could say the same about downtown jacksonville, and he would not be wrong


he needs to win florida so he doesn't talk about it

downtown jacksonville is a sh!thole

- homiedclown


He's going to win Florida. I think the midterms proved he has the state in his back pocket.

It's the Big Ten states (PA, OH, MI, MN, WI) that are going to decide this election.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 2 @ 11:29 AM ET
Wacked out?

McCabe averages 20 min per game.
Plays penalty kill
Brings physicality
Is productive “when healthy”
That is his only knock.

McCabe is 3.75 per IMO.

- ImThatGuy



You may be right with your projection, who knows.
IMO, his value playing 82 games or so is about $3.25.
Playing only 80% of the games over last 2 years should trim that back, again IMO.

WGR talked about it, Zadorov is a pretty good comparable at $3.2...but he has played about 20% more games.

We shall see.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 2 @ 11:30 AM ET
Nurse and Zadorov are both a year younger and are better players both signed for $3.2m. Will Butcher just signed for $3.5m and Sanheim for $3.2m. So yes, his ask is whacked. The Sabres offer is low, but that is how negotiations work. And even if it is low, it is still more than a $300k raise for a player that couldn't manage to stay healthy for even 60 games the last two years. Also, over the last three years he's been on the ice for an average of more than a goal per game.
- adambuffalo


If the Sabres were in a playoff push, he wouldn't have been shut down for the season. He would have played through it. Not sure they can use that against him
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 2 @ 11:31 AM ET
Nurse and Zadorov are both a year younger and are better players both signed for $3.2m. Will Butcher just signed for $3.5m and Sanheim for $3.2m. So yes, his ask is whacked. The Sabres offer is low, but that is how negotiations work. And even if it is low, it is still more than a $300k raise for a player that couldn't manage to stay healthy for even 60 games the last two years. Also, over the last three years he's been on the ice for an average of more than a goal per game.
- adambuffalo



jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 2 @ 11:32 AM ET
Just where? Jacksonville?

Downtown Jacksonville is a ghost town

- Stripes77

Buffalo
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
If the Sabres were in a playoff push, he wouldn't have been shut down for the season. He would have played through it. Not sure they can use that against him
- jcragcrumple



The last two seasons:

53 games played
59 games played

They can and will use it against him and they should
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Aug 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
McCabe

Team ask 1.95
Player ask 4.3

Another low ball Offer.

- ImThatGuy


So now we are bashing the putz for playing hardball using the only tactical negotiation tactic he has ? RFA’s have no leverage, if they want more then their qualifying offer they can go to arbitration. If they want to go to arbitration that is their right. Botts already bent over for Skinner, damn right he should penny pinch on the RFA’s. When they become UFA’s do you think they’ll give us a discount or go get their “fair market value” ?
Which in most cases is vastly overpaid.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
Buffalo
- jochfr



Downtown Buffalo >>>>>>>>> Downtown Jacksonville

it's not even close
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
The McCabe one is not a ridiculous team ask imo. It's low but not insultingly so.

I think Ullmark's offer is a little insulting to be honest. $800k is ELC money, not a legit ask for a 26 year old with 60 games played and a .910 sv%

Marty was saying on the instigators that this could be one of those "bad" arbitration hearings. We don't need a demoralized goalie whose team says he sucks

- jcragcrumple

you are not wrong
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Aug 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
At some point, you need a stable Fortune-500 type of business to stabilize the economy, though. No economy thrives on restaurants/establishments alone. Its best bet is for one of these start-ups to hit it big. Unfortunately, even that's not a guarantee, because usually when a start-up starts to add real value, a much bigger company buys it up, or at least the intellectual property.
- buffalofan19

But we have Tesla.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
Downtown Buffalo >>>>>>>>> Downtown Jacksonville

it's not even close

- Stripes77

Then that is a travesty... Because Buffalo is bad.
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