Botts deserves some criticism. The RoR trade was a big deal for this franchise and while I don't know if that was the max return he was offered, it wasn't worth it most likely. I am higher on Tage than most too.

My only critique of Botts is that I think he should have tried to make a move after that 10 game losing streak. We were still in the hunt and could have used a boost. Maybe it would have turned something around. This is speculative and I like what he's done overall. Just think he can also be poked a bit, it hasn't been all sunshine and daisies.
- RhinoFan

yes he does deserve some criticism

he brought in scandella, hunwick, sobotka, beaulieu, wilson,

he also retained lockport larry, girgens, and elie

everyone knew the team was overachieving and in first place in the nhl standings, and botts did nothing to keep the momentum before the winter freeze

these are not moves that get us closer to the playoffs IMO


the good, rochester and the pipeline
skinner
and honestly from the montour trade forward, can't knock the additions

Still think it's a case of addition by subtraction for the next 6 to 8 weeks

How many Murray players are actually still with the Sabres? I bet that number is really low.
- Sabretooth9[url]

eichel, reinhart, okposo, bogo, mccabe, risto, e-rod, girgens, larsson, nelson, ullmark

half the current roster roughly 3 years later

nothing good comes from going to arbitration, when your home team bashes you and tries to make you worthless


imagine if we all had to deal with this demeaning at our jobs once a year
- homiedclown

That's the system that was set up.

The Blues had 5 players, Flames 4, Avs 3, Canadiens 3, and Devils 3. Some teams had none.

It's just the nature of the beast.

eichel, reinhart, okposo, bogo, mccabe, risto, e-rod, girgens, larsson, nelson, ullmark

half the current roster roughly 3 years later
- homiedclown

Next year I expect a lot of those players to be gone.

Every GM does at some point I fail to see what he’s done that’s remotely close to a fireable offense.

The depth from the 2014-16 drafts never came.
- sbroads24

Agree, nothing fireable and he had a pretty depleted roster to work with.

That's the system that was set up.

The Blues had 5 players, Flames 4, Avs 3, Canadiens 3, and Devils 3. Some teams had none.

It's just the nature of the beast.
- Wetbandit1

there is no reason for e rod or ullmark to go to arbitration, which is my point

everyone know e-rod was going to get close to 2 per

everyone knows ullmark is going to get 1.5 to 1.75 per


mccabe, different story, as he could go as low as 2.4 per and as high as 3.5 per

yes he does deserve some criticism

he brought in scandella, hunwick, sobotka, beaulieu, wilson,

he also retained lockport larry, girgens, and elie

everyone knew the team was overachieving and in first place in the nhl standings, and botts did nothing to keep the momentum before the winter freeze

these are not moves that get us closer to the playoffs IMO


the good, rochester and the pipeline
skinner
and honestly from the montour trade forward, can't knock the additions

Still think it's a case of addition by subtraction for the next 6 to 8 weeks
- homiedclown

I'd argue that most of those guys were short term fill ins while he built a real roster. None of them were costly. Two were cap dumps to acquire other players (Slowbotka and Hunwick).

Larsson has value and should have been qualified. Girgs and Elie, who cares. Girgs I can see the argument, Elie you're right. At the end of the day though all of this is small peanuts compared to the Skinner, Montour, Miller, Jokiharju, Vesey and MoJo acquisitions.

I guess I'd say that if that's the worst he's done (outside RoR), he's been fairly successful given what he started with. Now I want to see it work. If we're bottom 5 next season, it really doesn't matter. Time for results.

yes he does deserve some criticism

he brought in scandella, hunwick, sobotka, beaulieu, wilson,

he also retained lockport larry, girgens, and elie

everyone knew the team was overachieving and in first place in the nhl standings, and botts did nothing to keep the momentum before the winter freeze

these are not moves that get us closer to the playoffs IMO


the good, rochester and the pipeline
skinner
and honestly from the montour trade forward, can't knock the additions

Still think it's a case of addition by subtraction for the next 6 to 8 weeks
- homiedclown

Hello there, I've got 3 used cars on my lot of 6 cars.. not worth a whole lot, but they'll still get ya from point A to point B. Typically, I'd ask for some kind of payout, but I'm feeling generous, so fck it, you can have 'em for free.

Hall - Hischier - Bratt
Gusev - Hughes - Palmieri


is this better then our top 6?

serious question

Hello there, I've got 3 used cars on my lot of 6 cars.. not worth a whole lot, but they'll still get ya from point A to point B. Typically, I'd ask for some kind of payout, but I'm feeling generous, so fck it, you can have 'em for free.
- BareMetal

I'd take any 3 college free agents behind the curtain over bringing those 3 back

Hall - Hischier - Bratt
Gusev - Hughes - Palmieri


is this better then our top 6?

serious question
- homiedclown

Does Hall stay healthy?

Hall - Hischier - Bratt
Gusev - Hughes - Palmieri


is this better then our top 6?

serious question
- homiedclown

Goose is a complete unknown. You can’t guarantee me he’s good or great.

Hall - Hischier - Bratt
Gusev - Hughes - Palmieri


is this better then our top 6?

serious question
- homiedclown

Let's talk after the "big trade" that's going to go down in the next 21-332 hours.

Goose is a complete unknown. You can’t guarantee me he’s good or great.
- Sabretooth9

same can be said for whoever our other lw and rw is though

and our second line center issue

Let's talk after the "big trade" that's going to go down in the next 21-332 hours.
- Powerslave

ok I will

ok I will
- homiedclown

Thank you Homie

dahlin-montour
gardiner-miller
mccabe-joker

spitballing here

Thank you Homie
- Der Kaiser

no problem

dahlin-montour
gardiner-miller
mccabe-joker

spitballing here
- homiedclown

Dahlin should not play with montour. He doesn’t fit his style. Dahlin can be as aggressive. That’s why him and bogo worked well. Bogo just stayed back and dahlin free wheeled.

With montour, he was not nearly as aggressive

Shattenkirk bought out ......and good thing we didn’t pay him for 7 years and a lot of olives

Shattenkirk bought out ......and good thing we didn’t pay him for 7 years and a lot of olives
- Sabretooth9

I like Olives

Linus Ullmark has requested a salary of $2.65 million in salary arbitration.
The Buffalo Sabres are countering with a salary request of $800,000. Ullmark and Buffalo have an arbitration hearing scheduled for Friday, unless the two sides can agree to a compromise before then. He posted a 15-14-5 record, 3.11 GAA, and .905 save percentage in 37 contests in 2018-19.


F him, let him walk.

dahlin-montour
gardiner-miller
mccabe-joker

spitballing here
- homiedclown

Yes, please

Linus Ullmark has requested a salary of $2.65 million in salary arbitration.
The Buffalo Sabres are countering with a salary request of $800,000. Ullmark and Buffalo have an arbitration hearing scheduled for Friday, unless the two sides can agree to a compromise before then. He posted a 15-14-5 record, 3.11 GAA, and .905 save percentage in 37 contests in 2018-19.


F him, let him walk.
- SABRES 89

bin laden's kid is dead


this is a good day

Botts deserves some criticism. The RoR trade was a big deal for this franchise and while I don't know if that was the max return he was offered, it wasn't worth it most likely. I am higher on Tage than most too.

My only critique of Botts is that I think he should have tried to make a move after that 10 game losing streak. We were still in the hunt and could have used a boost. Maybe it would have turned something around. This is speculative and I like what he's done overall. Just think he can also be poked a bit, it hasn't been all sunshine and daisies.
- RhinoFan

Good post

I'm not sketching tage in the top 9?

53-9-90
68-37-23
13-71-21
28-22-????

Cj Smith
Tage
Sobatka

The fact that jbotts traded for him, gives tage the best opportunity to play