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DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jul 31 @ 5:03 PM ET
Utunen may turn out to be a surprise, you never know.
- VanHockeyGuy


I kind of like what Fantenberg brings as a depth guy, so the comp wasn’t a slight. I think there’s a bit of overreaction going on right now though... Unless goals are the result of some deliberate & obvious skill, they don’t really boost my opinion of a player. Take away Utunen’s 3 weird seeing-eye goals vs Canada & I highly doubt anyone would be mentioning him. If he winds up being anything more than a 6th dman/PK guy for us down the road, I’ll be pleasantly surprised.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 31 @ 5:04 PM ET
Wonder why there isn't more mention of Canuck's Finish prospect Utunen. Looks like a cool steady D man that could be a minute munching puck mover. Like to see him on the Comets soon. Could be a depth call up option as next stage of development.
- NuckUp


I seen lots of good stuff on him , you just have to go t the right places.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 31 @ 5:04 PM ET
Utunen may turn out to be a surprise, you never know.
- VanHockeyGuy


He's progressing well since drafted. Seems to have good hockey IQ. Like to see what he can do on the Comets.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Jul 31 @ 5:06 PM ET
He's progressing well since drafted. Seems to have good hockey IQ. Like to see what he can do on the Comets.
- NuckUp


I do wish we had a few more prospects on the comets vs other leagues! Not counting the NHL
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 31 @ 5:06 PM ET
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 31 @ 5:09 PM ET
Hard deadline in baseball. There was a crazy amount of trades. The Blue Jays sold their best pitchers for pennies on the dollar. I don't really know how Atkins could possibly keep his job. He has done worse than Fenton did in Minnesota.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 31 @ 5:11 PM ET
I seen lots of good stuff on him , you just have to go t the right places.
- VANTEL


Cool. Post some links if you can in the future.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 31 @ 5:12 PM ET
Hard deadline in baseball. There was a crazy amount of trades. The Blue Jays sold their best pitchers for pennies on the dollar. I don't really know how Atkins could possibly keep his job. He has done worse than Fenton did in Minnesota.
- manvanfan



I hope they trade all their talent so we don't have to listen about them on a playoff run.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 31 @ 5:14 PM ET
Cool. Post some links if you can in the future.
- NuckUp

Go find them yourself.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 31 @ 5:15 PM ET
I kind of like what Fantenberg brings as a depth guy, so the comp wasn’t a slight. I think there’s a bit of overreaction going on right now though... Unless goals are the result of some deliberate & obvious skill, they don’t really boost my opinion of a player. Take away Utunen’s 3 weird seeing-eye goals vs Canada & I highly doubt anyone would be mentioning him. If he winds up being anything more than a 6th dman/PK guy for us down the road, I’ll be pleasantly surprised.
- DrChristianTroy


Not bad for a 5th rounder. Would he be like a better disciplined Stecher then...?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 31 @ 5:15 PM ET
Cool. Post some links if you can in the future.
- NuckUp



Sure . I have seen about four outstanding moves he has made at the tournament and comments about him not chasing the guy with the puck, staying in his position and a very good shot block block yesterday .

Smart young guy.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 31 @ 5:15 PM ET
I hope they trade all their talent so we don't have to listen about them on a playoff run.
- VANTEL

They are already 30 games under .500 and they traded away quite a few players and didn't get much of anything in return.

this guys believe it
Blue Jays Moves
Blue Jays Moves Retweeted Ben Nicholson-Smith
NOW will you guys finally stop crapping all over me every time I say that Shapiro and Atkins aren't doing it right?


Maybe in 3-5 years with all their now high draft picks then we can listen to post season baseball.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 31 @ 5:16 PM ET
Not bad for a 5th rounder. Would he be like Stecher then...?
- NuckUp



Redmile can give you a decent description he has seen him play multiple times.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 31 @ 5:17 PM ET
Sure . I have seen about four outstanding moves he has made at the tournament and comments about him not chasing the guy with the puck, staying in his position and a very good shot block block yesterday .

Smart young guy.

- VANTEL

I think that's pretty much what he's going on, is smarts. I don't think his skating is NHL worthy or his shot or stick handling and not overly physical.

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 31 @ 5:23 PM ET
I do wish we had a few more prospects on the comets vs other leagues! Not counting the NHL
- canucksfan1944


We have a lot of Euros and College kids. The recent trend of Euro's going to Utica and wanting out can't be good. Need to get an earlier buy in perhaps.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jul 31 @ 5:35 PM ET
I think that's pretty much what he's going on, is smarts. I don't think his skating is NHL worthy or his shot or stick handling and not overly physical.


- manvanfan

They were raving today about how much he's improved and developing nicely, they also said that the success of a player cannot be judged until the book is closed on a career, everyone develop's at there own pace. I think it was button and whoever else was on today.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 31 @ 5:38 PM ET
I think that's pretty much what he's going on, is smarts. I don't think his skating is NHL worthy or his shot or stick handling and not overly physical.


- manvanfan


“His skating has taken such a step forward.. he can really do more in the game offensively and not be vulnerable defensively.”
@CraigJButton
on Utunen, the
@Canucks
5th rounder in 2018. Utunen had Team Finland’s opening goal today vs Canada and has looked steady as usual. #WJSS

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I haven't seen enough of his play to comment . I am just seeing more and more positive things said about him lately.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 31 @ 5:47 PM ET
“His skating has taken such a step forward.. he can really do more in the game offensively and not be vulnerable defensively.”
@CraigJButton
on Utunen, the
@Canucks
5th rounder in 2018. Utunen had Team Finland’s opening goal today vs Canada and has looked steady as usual. #WJSS

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I haven't seen enough of his play to comment . I am just seeing more and more positive things said about him lately.

- VANTEL

As I had said in the last blog, I haven't watched any of these games, so I'm just going off what I knew from world juniors last season.

I'm really glad he is improving. I think he was always a long shot to make it unless he improved quite a bit. If all he ever becomes is a 7/8 in a couple years. I'd still call that a small success for the scouts.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 31 @ 5:51 PM ET
Rangers going to buy out Shattenkirk soon as the window opens again. Halfway through his contract . Next year will carry a 6 mil cap hit to buy him out.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 31 @ 5:52 PM ET
We have a lot of Euros and College kids. The recent trend of Euro's going to Utica and wanting out can't be good. Need to get an earlier buy in perhaps.
- NuckUp

I was reading an article the other day about how some random fellow who wrote an article said that he believes that the USHL is a better hockey league than the CHL leagues for talent.

I kind of wonder what the talent level difference is. Be sweet if they could make a tournament at the end of the year that all the winners and losers from the USHL, and CHL leagues could play a quick 4 games tournament. 2 groups of 4 teams. Pool winners to the finals.

Replace the memorial cup tournament.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 31 @ 5:52 PM ET
Rangers going to buy out Shattenkirk soon as the window opens again. Halfway through his contract . Next year will carry a 6 mil cap hit to buy him out.
- VANTEL

That Gorton is a solid GM.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 31 @ 5:54 PM ET
As I had said in the last blog, I haven't watched any of these games, so I'm just going off what I knew from world juniors last season.

I'm really glad he is improving. I think he was always a long shot to make it unless he improved quite a bit. If all he ever becomes is a 7/8 in a couple years. I'd still call that a small success for the scouts.

- manvanfan



I agree he is a long shot. With Tryamkin Woo Myers Hughes OJ his chances of making the team are not great.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 31 @ 5:55 PM ET
That Gorton is a solid GM.
- manvanfan


The best . We should follow their lead.

CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
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4m
#Rangers buying out the remaining 2 years of Shattenkirk's contract would result in 4 years of buyout cap hit broken down as follows:

2019-20: $1,483,333*
2020-21: $6,083,333
2021-22: $1,433,333
2022-23: $1,433,333

*It would save NY $5,166,667 in cap space this season.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 31 @ 6:11 PM ET
Wonder why there isn't more mention of Canuck's Finish prospect Utunen. Looks like a cool steady D man that could be a minute munching puck mover. Like to see him on the Comets soon. Could be a depth call up option as next stage of development.
- NuckUp


Button was praising Utunen in all 3 periods. Commenting how much his skating has improved mostly.

I also think he's a bit bigger since the WJC.... progressing nicely for a 5th rounder.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 31 @ 6:23 PM ET
The best . We should follow their lead.

CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
·
4m
#Rangers buying out the remaining 2 years of Shattenkirk's contract would result in 4 years of buyout cap hit broken down as follows:

2019-20: $1,483,333*
2020-21: $6,083,333
2021-22: $1,433,333
2022-23: $1,433,333

*It would save NY $5,166,667 in cap space this season.

- VANTEL

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