Thinking PK forward lines should go as

Sutter Motte
Beagle Virtanen
Horvat Leivo

Signed for Utica this season
Position: G:4 D:12 F:16 | Av Age: 24.13 years | Av Ht: 6'0" | Av Wt 191 lbs |

A lot of competition in Utica this season. That doesn't even include the players going to be cut like Loui Eriksson and Tim Schaller. Moved on from players like Bancks and Woods.

Last season they used 46 players
Position: G:7 D:15 F:24 | Av Age: 25.43 years | Av Ht: 6'0" | Av Wt 191 lbs |
- manvanfan

Fire Cull.

I've known a few who started their post-CHL life in the AHL, and by Christmas were playing in the CIS because of ice time and not wanting to lose the scholarship. Good on your friend for making the most of it

The CHL's rules on when their scholarships expire really makes it tough on the players who go that route too. For all the absurdity that is the NCAA, at least you have the choice to leave that path at any moment. The CHL essentially locks a kid in at 15 to the single route and then forces a player to choose between a Canadian education or taking a shot at pro hockey after they are done at age 20. I'm glad more people are being smart about keeping their options open, the CHL needs an overhaul in my opinion
- WhiteLie

I think it's for every year you play in the CHL they pay for a year of schooling in Canada. It is also difficult for CHL kids because you aren't going back into school right away either, in College where you juggle both. You are basically out of school for 2 years 19 and 20 before you go back.

CHL is a business. Problem is that business isn't to benefit kids and their careers or education at that moment. College does both. I like the CHL and it's fun to watch but it is never going to be a better option for a lot of young hockey players anymore unless you are the best of the best and know already at 16 that you are going to for sure be an NHL player.

I think the CHL would be much much better if they would allow players to leave at 19 into the AHL. You would probably have players like Jost, Newhook play in the CHL then. Get them for 3 years and ahead of the NCAA.

Fire Cull.
- Marwood

I really like Cull actually. He wants the youth to either show up or they sit. No free minutes.

Thinking PK forward lines should go as

Sutter Motte
Beagle Virtanen
Horvat Leivo
- manvanfan

I've got a feeling Horvat will be top PP and regular PK.

They will say at the beginning of the year that they will manage his ice time but he will finish over 20 minutes/game because they need him out there in clutch situations down the stretch

I think it's for every year you play in the CHL they pay for a year of schooling in Canada. It is also difficult for CHL kids because you aren't going back into school right away either, in College where you juggle both. You are basically out of school for 2 years 19 and 20 before you go back.

CHL is a business. Problem is that business isn't to benefit kids and their careers or education at that moment. College does both. I like the CHL and it's fun to watch but it is never going to be a better option for a lot of young hockey players anymore unless you are the best of the best and know already at 16 that you are going to for sure be an NHL player.

I think the CHL would be much much better if they would allow players to leave at 19 into the AHL. You would probably have players like Jost, Newhook play in the CHL then. Get them for 3 years and ahead of the NCAA.
- manvanfan

Yeah, you get the scholarships, but the expiration date on those is very fast. And if you're 19-20 playing against the McDavid's and whatnot, in peak physical condition, most think this is their one chance to play pro hockey and lose it. https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-pl...ty-little-secret-1.222059;https://www.sportsnet.ca/.../chl-better-ever-players/

I totally agree, most teens should keep their eligibility unless they are at the top of their class. I understand why a lot of them used to go for the CHL and am glad the trend is showing more going that NCAA route

I've got a feeling Horvat will be top PP and regular PK.

They will say at the beginning of the year that they will manage his ice time but he will finish over 20 minutes/game because they need him out there in clutch situations down the stretch
- WhiteLie

Brovat is at a point now where this will happen. Once he has that C it should ramp up his game a bit too. Hopefully they just don't hand the C to Pettersson as he will be our top scorer for the next ten years lol

Yeah, you get the scholarships, but the expiration date on those is very fast. And if you're 19-20 playing against the McDavid's and whatnot, in peak physical condition, most think this is their one chance to play pro hockey and lose it. https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-pl...ty-little-secret-1.222059;https://www.sportsnet.ca/.../chl-better-ever-players/

I totally agree, most teens should keep their eligibility unless they are at the top of their class. I understand why a lot of them used to go for the CHL and am glad the trend is showing more going that NCAA route
- WhiteLie

One possible solution would be for the pro leagues to be required to 'buy out' a young player's scholarship rights when they advance from their junior league. Then provide their own scholarship plan and extend it to 2-3 years after their last pro game played. It should be something standard in addition to the minimum player contract. That way guys who choose to play pro hockey for a few years can still go back to school and learn a profession after they're done chasing the dream.

Brovat is at a point now where this will happen. Once he has that C it should ramp up his game a bit too. Hopefully they just don't hand the C to Pettersson as he will be our top scorer for the next ten years lol
- LordHumungous

Exactly, while I don't think he isn't the highest skill guy, with a game on the line I want him out there. He'll just do what it takes. And I think this year will be a lot of close games and he'll be called upon to defend, shutdown, grind, score, etc.

One possible solution would be for the pro leagues to be required to 'buy out' a young player's scholarship rights when they advance from their junior league. Then provide their own scholarship plan and extend it to 2-3 years after their last pro game played. It should be something standard in addition to the minimum player contract. That way guys who choose to play pro hockey for a few years can still go back to school and learn a profession after they're done chasing the dream.
- YeOldTimer

I'm not sure other professional leagues could afford it, but I think an easy solution is extend the timeline to age 24/25. It at least gives them 5ish years to carve out a career in their prime and know what their future in hockey is

I'm not sure other professional leagues could afford it, but I think an easy solution is extend the timeline to age 24/25. It at least gives them 5ish years to carve out a career in their prime and know what their future in hockey is
- WhiteLie

The solution could be as simple as, the NHL putting money into these development leagues, like they do with the USA hockey program and to a lesser extent, Sweden development leagues.

I've got a feeling Horvat will be top PP and regular PK.

They will say at the beginning of the year that they will manage his ice time but he will finish over 20 minutes/game because they need him out there in clutch situations down the stretch
- WhiteLie

Well I did put him on the PK but it would make a bit more sense to play the two shutdown centres ahead of him in PK minutes as long as they are on the team.

The solution could be as simple as, the NHL putting money into these development leagues, like they do with the USA hockey program and to a lesser extent, Sweden development leagues.
- Reubenkincade

NHL doesn't put money into the Swedish development leagues. They are paying for "player transfers" from the Allsvenskan and SHL which then those two leagues can choose what they want to do with the money.

The CHL is a business and if there best players were plucked away for money, they would be compensated but at the same time the product would be not as good.

I don't want to figure out what amount of compensations would make it worth it but it's certainly an idea that needs to be entertained.

I really like Cull actually. He wants the youth to either show up or they sit. No free minutes.
- manvanfan

He's yanking you're chain

One possible solution would be for the pro leagues to be required to 'buy out' a young player's scholarship rights when they advance from their junior league. Then provide their own scholarship plan and extend it to 2-3 years after their last pro game played. It should be something standard in addition to the minimum player contract. That way guys who choose to play pro hockey for a few years can still go back to school and learn a profession after they're done chasing the dream.
- YeOldTimer

When signing a pro contract though you are making money. I don't know why you would have to compensate them further.

He's yanking you're chain
- VanHockeyGuy

*blank stare*

Thanks. I had no idea.

I hear the Offer sheet was for Laine

I hear the Offer sheet was for Laine
- manvanfan

wut

https://canucksarmy.com/2019/07/30/navigating-the-salary-cap-part-2/
- manvanfan

This doesn't show there is cap room to sign Barrie next season.

This doesn't show there is cap room to sign Barrie next season.
- NuckUp

cap crunch issues man haven't you heard?

Extra crunches req'd.

I hear the Offer sheet was for Laine
- manvanfan

From who?

Yeah, you get the scholarships, but the expiration date on those is very fast. And if you're 19-20 playing against the McDavid's and whatnot, in peak physical condition, most think this is their one chance to play pro hockey and lose it. https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-pl...ty-little-secret-1.222059;https://www.sportsnet.ca/.../chl-better-ever-players/

I totally agree, most teens should keep their eligibility unless they are at the top of their class. I understand why a lot of them used to go for the CHL and am glad the trend is showing more going that NCAA route
- WhiteLie

That's the trend that will see more good players skipping CHL to go NCAA route so they can sign with their NHL club earlier to try to make the team. They don't have to worry about getting sent back to junior. They make their ELC money still playing some time in the AHL. The education is secondary its usually about the money. But they can finish their classes even though they are out of the program.

When signing a pro contract though you are making money. I don't know why you would have to compensate them further.
- manvanfan

It's a way of addressing conflicting interests. If a player has a financial incentive to quit pro hockey in order to take advantage of the scholarship money he accumulated in junior, it's in the pro team's interest to eliminate that incentive by replacing it with another one.

Career earning potential for something like an electrical or mechanical engineer, is much higher than that of a career ECHL player.

50 days to RWC

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