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2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 2 @ 9:00 AM ET
Loved Sandy.
Remember his interaction with Brasheer?

- Fenrir


That's former Ranger Donald Brashear lol. Yeah I do. I loved NHL Hitz back in the day, would also choose Sandy to line up with Lindros and Fluery.
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Aug 2 @ 9:02 AM ET
woah vacation ended fast
- TPC


Burner account?
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Aug 2 @ 9:02 AM ET
If Kreider goes at the deadline whats everyones guess on the return?

1st & a good prospect?

- mrn22


TPC loses his (frank)ing mind
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 2 @ 9:05 AM ET
If Kreider goes at the deadline whats everyones guess on the return?

1st & a good prospect?

- mrn22


It really depends on how good his season is. If he plays well with one of the kids and whoever the second line center is, his value could go through the roof. If his stats tank somewhat because his line mates aren't up to par, we could see something disappointing.

Of course if he has 40-50 pts at the deadline, man unless we are totally out of it, dealing him would be a tough pill to swallow even if we know it's the right move.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 2 @ 9:06 AM ET
If Kreider goes at the deadline whats everyones guess on the return?

1st & a good prospect?

- mrn22

no comment
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Aug 2 @ 9:15 AM ET
If Kreider goes at the deadline whats everyones guess on the return?

1st & a good prospect?

- mrn22


Anything short of top prospects or picks or a legit 2C. However to be honest, I cant imagine anything (within reason) coming back our way that would make me happy.

Like, my pipedream is them getting Barkov to play with Kakko.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 2 @ 9:25 AM ET
Anything short of top prospects or picks or a legit 2C. However to be honest, I cant imagine anything (within reason) coming back our way that would make me happy.

Like, my pipedream is them getting Barkov to play with Kakko.

- aecliptic

Only one way you're ever going to get Barkov from Florida:

2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 2 @ 9:30 AM ET
Only one way you're ever going to get Barkov from Florida:


- eichiefs9


Can anyone photoshop JD and Panarin on those guys?
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 2 @ 9:37 AM ET
If Kreider goes at the deadline whats everyones guess on the return?

1st & a good prospect?

- mrn22


I think he could match what Hayes got

I think Kreider's 11 team NTC is still a problem though and it's been more of a problem than people realize
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 2 @ 9:39 AM ET
I think he could match what Hayes got

I think Kreider's 11 team NTC is still a problem though and it's been more of a problem than people realize

- jimbo83


I also wonder if teams see what we did with Hayes, and might be a bit more hesitant in giving us the same for CK. I think all of the high profile deadline deals didn't really work out for teams. I guess you could say Zucc kinda worked for the Stars, but even they lost in the 2nd round and I'm not sure Zucc qualifies as high profile.
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Aug 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
I think he could match what Hayes got

I think Kreider's 11 team NTC is still a problem though and it's been more of a problem than people realize

- jimbo83


Hayes is a center don't centers typically get paid better than comparable wingers?
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 2 @ 9:48 AM ET
Hayes is a center don't centers typically get paid better than comparable wingers?
- blueshirts_fan


yeah, it is true

I still can't believe what the Flyers gave Hayes
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Aug 2 @ 9:50 AM ET
I also wonder if teams see what we did with Hayes, and might be a bit more hesitant in giving us the same for CK. I think all of the high profile deadline deals didn't really work out for teams. I guess you could say Zucc kinda worked for the Stars, but even they lost in the 2nd round and I'm not sure Zucc qualifies as high profile.
- 2sticks1puck

Come on, who you kidding. There is ALWAYS a team looking to get that one last piece. Teams will never be "scared" to deal at the deadline. Especially if it's someone like Kreider
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 2 @ 9:50 AM ET
Can anyone photoshop JD and Panarin on those guys?
- 2sticks1puck

If I had the ability to do it, I would
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
yeah, it is true

I still can't believe what the Flyers gave Hayes

- jimbo83


If the Flyers are still 2-3 years away, they are going to be a pretty old team after those 2-3 years. Even all of their young D will be entering their mid 20s and they had better hope those guys don't decline in their late 20s like our guys did.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 2 @ 9:52 AM ET
Come on, who you kidding. There is ALWAYS a team looking to get that one last piece. Teams will never be "scared" to deal at the deadline. Especially if it's someone like Kreider
- Bean_Dip


You aren't wrong. Is CK the best trade chip available? I doubt the Devs would deal Hall, but that has to be in theory the best one right?
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
Capitals draft pick Chase Priskie isn't signing with them and is this year's top college UFA as of August 15th

right handed defenseman, wonder if Rangers will be in on it

https://www.nbcsports.com...ncy-and-its-nobodys-fault
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 2 @ 10:00 AM ET
Capitals draft pick Chase Priskie isn't signing with them and is this year's top college UFA as of August 15th

right handed defenseman, wonder if Rangers will be in on it

- jimbo83


They'd be fools not too. I've been on record in saying I want as much competition for future spots as possible.
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Aug 2 @ 10:16 AM ET
You aren't wrong. Is CK the best trade chip available? I doubt the Devs would deal Hall, but that has to be in theory the best one right?
- 2sticks1puck

No doubt. Eating my words here, but I would think the price to attain Hall would be too much. If Kreider is the next guy in line, that probably raises his value a little.

I think it would be a telling sign if he slipped statistically this year, with all the talent surrounding him. This is probably the best group of forwards he's ever played with, right? At least from a potential standpoint.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
You aren't wrong. Is CK the best trade chip available? I doubt the Devs would deal Hall, but that has to be in theory the best one right?
- 2sticks1puck


Only way thats happening is if he tells management there is no way he is re-signing with them
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 2 @ 10:45 AM ET
No doubt. Eating my words here, but I would think the price to attain Hall would be too much. If Kreider is the next guy in line, that probably raises his value a little.

I think it would be a telling sign if he slipped statistically this year, with all the talent surrounding him. This is probably the best group of forwards he's ever played with, right? At least from a potential standpoint.

- Bean_Dip


https://www.capfriendly.c...s/2021/caphit/all/all/ufa

Interesting names there. Not sure the Blues would trade him or let him walk since they gave up so much to acquire him, but I'd slot CK at about whatever the same value you'd think Brayden Schenn would get.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 2 @ 10:51 AM ET
Larry Brooks:
NYR shadow roster: Lundqvist, Georgiev; Trouba, Skjei, Staal, Fox, Hajek; Mika, Chytil, Strome; Howden; Panarin, Kreider, Andersson, Namestnikov; Buchnevich, Kakko, Kravtsov, Fast. (Lemieux, DeAngelo unsigned; Smith, Beleskey AHL). Cap $77.815M, space $3.685M

Figure when ADA and Lemieux sign, maybe $1-1.5 mil of room, possibly less depending on if its a one- or two-year deal.
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Aug 2 @ 10:54 AM ET
Larry Brooks:
NYR shadow roster: Lundqvist, Georgiev; Trouba, Skjei, Staal, Fox, Hajek; Mika, Chytil, Strome; Howden; Panarin, Kreider, Andersson, Namestnikov; Buchnevich, Kakko, Kravtsov, Fast. (Lemieux, DeAngelo unsigned; Smith, Beleskey AHL). Cap $77.815M, space $3.685M

Figure when ADA and Lemieux sign, maybe $1-1.5 mil of room, possibly less depending on if its a one- or two-year deal.

- airjan23


2 RFA no offer sheets as of yet, they have no leverage they play for their qualifiers prove what they can do and then get paid. Why do more than that?
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 2 @ 11:05 AM ET
Larry Brooks:
NYR shadow roster: Lundqvist, Georgiev; Trouba, Skjei, Staal, Fox, Hajek; Mika, Chytil, Strome; Howden; Panarin, Kreider, Andersson, Namestnikov; Buchnevich, Kakko, Kravtsov, Fast. (Lemieux, DeAngelo unsigned; Smith, Beleskey AHL). Cap $77.815M, space $3.685M

Figure when ADA and Lemieux sign, maybe $1-1.5 mil of room, possibly less depending on if its a one- or two-year deal.

- airjan23


1.5 of room would be enough for two callups depending on what their NHL salaries are

extremely tight

and if Kakko, Kravtsov and Fox hit rookie bonuses, that could be overages into next year's cap which already includes Shatty at 6 mil, Girardi at over 1 mil, Spooner

they'd really do themselves a service if they made a little more room
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Aug 2 @ 11:06 AM ET
Capitals draft pick Chase Priskie isn't signing with them and is this year's top college UFA as of August 15th

right handed defenseman, wonder if Rangers will be in on it

https://www.nbcsports.com...ncy-and-its-nobodys-fault

- jimbo83

Highly doubt he'd come here even if we were in play, the pipeline is so deep now with youth it's impossible to be assured he'd even make it, Trouba, Deangelo, Fox and Lundkvist
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