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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 11:15 AM ET
i wonder who will come in on a PTO,or cheap 1 year deal now that shatty is gone in case Fox isnt quite ready.

Claesson maybe comes back? mccquaid on a PTO? i bet some right side D comes in though.

- NYRangers1124


eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 1 @ 11:19 AM ET
Great for this season...does nothing for us next season..bravo. let's see if this stops the rangers from shooting themselves in the foot moving forward..oh wait, we signed trouba to long term deal..great
- mattstake

Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 1 @ 11:21 AM ET
I am sure Jeff Gorton tried to move Nam and maybe Shattenkirk and didn't have a taken. Dealing Nam. as I wrote, still likely would have required a second move, especially if salary had to be eaten. Moving Kirk next year, after the $2 million bonus was paid July 1, likely would have been easier because the actual salary would have been just $2 million. But Gorton probably pursued every avenue before deciding to buy out Shattenkirk, because if not, he would have been derelict in his duties as a GM.

We all -or at least most of us - may not be happy with this decision. But to presume it was made in a vacuum with no other options attempted is fallacy.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 1 @ 11:21 AM ET
i wonder who will come in on a PTO,or cheap 1 year deal now that shatty is gone in case Fox isnt quite ready.

Claesson maybe comes back? mccquaid on a PTO? i bet some right side D comes in though.

- NYRangers1124


I'd like to see what Raddysh could do quite honestly. He's 23 and it would be now or never for him. He was about a .5 ppg player in he A. Nothing spectacular, but he could become a semi decent trade chip if he could fill in.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 11:24 AM ET
I'd like to see what Raddysh could do quite honestly. He's 23 and it would be now or never for him. He was about a .5 ppg player in he A. Nothing spectacular, but he could become a semi decent trade chip if he could fill in.
- 2sticks1puck


and who knows, maybe Reunanen, maybe Rykov are a lot closer to playing right away than we think

I am certain the team has a plan
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
I'd like to see what Raddysh could do quite honestly. He's 23 and it would be now or never for him. He was about a .5 ppg player in he A. Nothing spectacular, but he could become a semi decent trade chip if he could fill in.
- 2sticks1puck

me too - but its another young D w/ no nhl experience. im sure he'll get a look but i bet some vet comes in too
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Aug 1 @ 11:27 AM ET
and who knows, maybe Reunanen, maybe Rykov are a lot closer to playing right away than we think

I am certain the team has a plan

- jimbro83


hopefully those plans include russian language lessons for the non russian speaking palyers
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 11:31 AM ET
me too - but its another young D w/ no nhl experience. im sure he'll get a look but i bet some vet comes in too
- NYRangers1124


your top PK pairing on opening night will be Staal-Girardi just like it was 2010 again

book it female doges
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Aug 1 @ 11:32 AM ET
yeah, it's not a comparable deal, none of the trades where LTIR players have been traded have any similarity to the players we have or the situation we were in
- jimbro83


That whole process seems a little fugazy
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Aug 1 @ 11:34 AM ET
I can see you are always happy, you wake up next to TPC everyday and give him a big kiss good morning!
- Brukie


If I wasn't dating my GF, I wouldn't mind waking up next to TPC each morning.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 11:35 AM ET
If I wasn't dating my GF, I wouldn't mind waking up next to TPC each morning.
- evitageN


I am pretty sure that TPC is bicentennial
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Aug 1 @ 11:39 AM ET
your top PK pairing on opening night will be Staal-Girardi just like it was 2010 again

book it female doges

- jimbro83

Maybe I'll get to the garden in my Staal jersey this year where Staal and G are shutting down Malkin and Crosby, reminiscent of 6 or 7 years ago.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Aug 1 @ 11:41 AM ET
That's entirely possible. Capfriendly makes it seems like its for buyouts period. If the Rangers could have bought out Strome and didn't, probably pretty foolish on their parts honestly.
- 2sticks1puck

Yes, at 3.1 no team would even be willing to give us a 7th for Strome. Buyout would’ve definitely been better. Here’s a guy, that actually has some value, and all we do is talk about how we should’ve bought him out.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 11:42 AM ET
If I wasn't dating my GF, I wouldn't mind waking up next to TPC each morning.
- evitageN

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 11:42 AM ET
I am pretty sure that TPC is bicentennial
- jimbro83

My legend status is growing
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 11:43 AM ET
Yes, at 3.1 no team would even be willing to give us a 7th for Strome. Buyout would’ve definitely been better. Here’s a guy, that actually has some value, and all we do is talk about how we should’ve bought him out.
- nyrangers9479


I think what we have been doing is going through every possible scenario the Rangers could have done other than what they did

dont take the names personally

I do believe they did the best thing they could have done given the circumstances
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Aug 1 @ 11:45 AM ET
I am pretty sure that TPC is bicentennial
- jimbro83


Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Aug 1 @ 11:46 AM ET
Yes, at 3.1 no team would even be willing to give us a 7th for Strome. Buyout would’ve definitely been better. Here’s a guy, that actually has some value, and all we do is talk about how we should’ve bought him out.
- nyrangers9479

On a scale of 1 - 10, how happy are you that Shatty is gone?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Aug 1 @ 11:49 AM ET
On a scale of 1 - 10, how happy are you that Shatty is gone?
- Bean_Dip

11, with that said, I think we should’ve made a bunch of smaller moves and tried to build up his value a bit.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 1 @ 11:51 AM ET
If I wasn't dating my GF, I wouldn't mind waking up next to TPC each morning.
- evitageN

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 1 @ 11:52 AM ET
At the risk of coming off like a troll, I thought it would be interesting to revisit the blog (and comments) where the Rangers signed Shattenkirk:

https://hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=86218

It really does hammer home one important fact:

99 times out of 100, UFA signings turn out badly.

And it also probably explains why RFAs this summer are unwilling to sign for less than they think they are worth. Teams are handing out stupid money to UFAs, who inevitably fail to live up to their contracts.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Aug 1 @ 11:57 AM ET
True. People ink bad contracts. If the devs are were near the ceiling, there would be discussion of a buyout. The only thing that is a bit of a joke in Rangerland, is the fact that the past couple blogs have been like drawing straws. "We buying out Shatts, Smith, or Staal?", and "which one goes to the AHL?". It is just nuts, as that is 16.7M in bad contracts, yet you go out and add two more massive long-term deals. Great players, just odd timing given this teams contract situation.
- bikeguy99


I feel calling Staal's contract a bad one is playing fast and loose with the truth. At the time of the signing he was an absolute defensive power. No one could see the injury troubles ahead. It's unfortunate that he is a shell of his former self, but that is not Sather's or Gorton's fault. It's just life.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 1 @ 11:57 AM ET
At the risk of coming off like a troll, I thought it would be interesting to revisit the blog (and comments) where the Rangers signed Shattenkirk:

https://hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=86218

It really does hammer home one important fact:

99 times out of 100, UFA signings turn out badly.

And it also probably explains why RFAs this summer are unwilling to sign for less than they think they are worth. Teams are handing out stupid money to UFAs, who inevitably fail to live up to their contracts.

- Atomic Wedgie


Well he took a discount. He was a 45-50 pt defenseman. He had injuries both years with us. poop happens sometimes.

He didn't get bought out because it was a horrible contract, he got bought out to make cap space.
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Aug 1 @ 12:01 PM ET
Well he took a discount. He was a 45-50 pt defenseman. He had injuries both years with us. poop happens sometimes.

He didn't get bought out because it was a horrible contract, he got bought out to make cap space.

- mdw7413


I have to think that him not playing to where we all thought he would be had to play some part
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:03 PM ET
Well he took a discount. He was a 45-50 pt defenseman. He had injuries both years with us. poop happens sometimes.

He didn't get bought out because it was a horrible contract, he got bought out to make cap space.

- mdw7413

The guy couldn’t play defense, which is usually somewhat important when ur a defenseman. That’s not just his time here, WSH after paying a 1st+ for him at the deadline wanted to scratch him in the playoffs bc of how bad he was in his own end.
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