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Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Aug 1 @ 12:05 PM ET
It's funny, Shatty was known for his offensive game but I never saw a Ranger with a softer shot before. Even Staal has a harder one
- TPC


Yandle. Wrist shot from the point 89% of the time.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:05 PM ET
At the risk of coming off like a troll, I thought it would be interesting to revisit the blog (and comments) where the Rangers signed Shattenkirk:

https://hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=86218

It really does hammer home one important fact:

99 times out of 100, UFA signings turn out badly.

And it also probably explains why RFAs this summer are unwilling to sign for less than they think they are worth. Teams are handing out stupid money to UFAs, who inevitably fail to live up to their contracts.

- Atomic Wedgie


next put up the blog when you guys signed Marleau
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
The guy couldn’t play defense, which is usually somewhat important when ur a defenseman. That’s not just his time here, WSH after paying a 1st+ for him at the deadline wanted to scratch him in the playoffs bc of how bad he was in his own end.
- nyrangers9479


Here's what frustrates me when fans say that. We KNEW he couldn't play D when we signed him. That's not his game. I was never the biggest Shatty fan at any point in his career, but I had no expectations on his defense accumen when we got him. What made Shatty a buyout candidate was that he wasn't living up to the contract offensively. Burns can't play D a lick either, but no one cares when you are getting 80-90 pts a year. If Shatty was getting 50 pts a year, no one would care you have to cover for him.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
Here's what frustrates me when fans say that. We KNEW he couldn't play D when we signed him. That's not his game. I was never the biggest Shatty fan at any point in his career, but I had no expectations on his defense accumen when we got him. What made Shatty a buyout candidate was that he wasn't living up to the contract offensively. Burns can't play D a lick either, but no one cares when you are getting 80-90 pts a year. If Shatty was getting 50 pts a year, no one would care you have to cover for him.
- 2sticks1puck


I don't even answer anymore. He has said this probably a million times. Anyone who thinks Shatty was brought in for his awesome defense needs to stop smoking crack
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
Ek has stopped me from mentioning Larry Murphy a second time apparently in my response to Jim....
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:10 PM ET
Ek has stopped me from mentioning Larry Murphy a second time apparently in my response to Jim....
- 2sticks1puck


Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 1 @ 12:11 PM ET
At the risk of coming off like a troll, I thought it would be interesting to revisit the blog (and comments) where the Rangers signed Shattenkirk:

https://hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=86218

It really does hammer home one important fact:

99 times out of 100, UFA signings turn out badly.

And it also probably explains why RFAs this summer are unwilling to sign for less than they think they are worth. Teams are handing out stupid money to UFAs, who inevitably fail to live up to their contracts.

- Atomic Wedgie



Although I will get lambasted for this Panarins contract will be the 1 percent!!!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 1 @ 12:12 PM ET
next put up the blog when you guys signed Marleau
- jimbro83

Challenge accepted:

https://hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=86249

The actual blog isn't that interesting.

But if you want a quick look at how Leafs fans felt, you may want to check out the Hockeybuzz Official Leafs Prediction Thread for that year:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...read.php?thread_id=147242

I think I nailed it:

Marleau, Patrick: I really think we could have spent our money elsewhere. His stats will look fine at the end of the year, so people will think that justifies his signing, but we would have been better off using the money to re-up JVR and promoting a kid.



jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
Challenge accepted:

https://hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=86249

The actual blog isn't that interesting.

But if you want a quick look at how Leafs fans felt, you may want to check out the Hockeybuzz Official Leafs Prediction Thread for that year:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...read.php?thread_id=147242

I think I nailed it:

Marleau, Patrick: I really think we could have spent our money elsewhere. His stats will look fine at the end of the year, so people will think that justifies his signing, but we would have been better off using the money to re-up JVR and promoting a kid.

- Atomic Wedgie


dude, you should change your name to Detective Wedgie
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Aug 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
Although I will get lambasted for this Panarins contract will be the 1 percent!!!
- Brukie


Don't we all want him to be that 1% maybe I'm misunderstanding this???
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
3m

CALGARY has put Michael Stone on waivers for purposes of a buyout
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
3m

Vegas has put Mark Stone on waivers for purposes of a buyout

- jimbro83



I can dream can't I?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
I don't even answer anymore. He has said this probably a million times. Anyone who thinks Shatty was brought in for his awesome defense needs to stop smoking crack
- mdw7413

So your ok with making your highest paid dman a guy that can’t play D? I don’t care he had 45-50 point seasons when he can’t cover a guy in his own end and is a turnover machine. And let’s stop acting like everyone knew he was bad defensively, the arguments we had with ppl saying I was blowing out of proportion just how bad he was defensively can be pulled up in just about any blog from 2 years ago.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:26 PM ET
So your ok with making your highest paid dman a guy that can’t play D? I don’t care he had 45-50 point seasons when he can’t cover a guy in his own end and is a turnover machine. And let’s stop acting like everyone knew he was bad defensively, the arguments we had with ppl saying I was blowing out of proportion just how bad he was defensively can be pulled up in just about any blog from 2 years ago.
- nyrangers9479


mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:26 PM ET

- jimbro83

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:27 PM ET
So your ok with making your highest paid dman a guy that can’t play D? I don’t care he had 45-50 point seasons when he can’t cover a guy in his own end and is a turnover machine. And let’s stop acting like everyone knew he was bad defensively, the arguments we had with ppl saying I was blowing out of proportion just how bad he was defensively can be pulled up in just about any blog from 2 years ago.
- nyrangers9479

Only if you pull up blogs about JT Miller being good as well
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
Only if you pull up blogs about JT Miller being good as well
- TPC

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:30 PM ET

- mdw7413

it's time to get weird
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:43 PM ET
It's really just a 1 season thing. After 20-21 we will have loads of cap space. After the nightmare dead cap season, Shatty's dead cap declines to like 1 million.
- 2sticks1puck


Feels like you guys do this nearly every year or at best, every other year.
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:43 PM ET
Feels like you guys do this nearly every year or at best, every other year.
- Gerk


Always evolving
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 12:46 PM ET
Feels like you guys do this nearly every year or at best, every other year.
- Gerk


the top free agent forward available is going to play on a line with Kappo Kakko this year
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 1 @ 12:48 PM ET
Feels like you guys do this nearly every year or at best, every other year.
- Gerk


A lot of teams do. I'm not going to dispute we have had to do things on occasion.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 1 @ 12:50 PM ET
I don't even answer anymore. He has said this probably a million times. Anyone who thinks Shatty was brought in for his awesome defense needs to stop smoking crack
- mdw7413

Shouldn't everyone stop smoking crack, regardless of their opinion on Shattenkirk?
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