And Toronto will still be waiting to win the cup then.
- RafiDRW

Damn well at least they won’t be waiting for Marner to sign by then

It takes more then salary to win a title....you need the right players to do it and Holland did assemble the right guys and he always looked to add to what he had too instead of staying put and doing nothing.....now we are looking at least another 2-3 years before anything happens....wtf did we do to deserve all of this anyways?
- RatedR80

Best (frank)ing player in history and a cup after he leaves just to put a cherry on top?

Damn well at least they won’t be waiting for Marner to sign by then
- RatedR80

Markers 57th generation descendant will be on LTIR for his family’s history of having giant balls.

Best (frank)ing player in history and a cup after he leaves just to put a cherry on top?
- RafiDRW

Ahhhhh the glory days .....it’s hard to believe this team was good

Markers 57th generation descendant will be on LTIR for his family’s history of having giant balls.
- RafiDRW

Doesn’t that mean that Nylander has those too?

Ahhhhh the glory days .....it’s hard to believe this team was good
- RatedR80

Maybe Tippett can turn Koskinen into the next Roloson.

I think doing nothing after making the playoffs instead of making actual improvements were also a pretty big downfall
- RatedR80

Less concerned with the doing nothing; just don't actively get worse.

Three way trade:

Detroit: Abdelkader, Helm, Eriksson

Edmonton: Stecher, Detroit's 3rd

Vancouver: Puljujarvi, Detroit’s 2020 2nd, Edmonton’s 2020 4th
- RafiDRW

Because (frank) you

Maybe Tippett can turn Koskinen into the next Roloson.
- RafiDRW

When it came to the playoffs, he was a tank.

He was a beast for us during the '06 run and a beast for Tampa during the '11 run.

Even his run with the Wild in '03 wasn't bad by any means.

Less concerned with the doing nothing; just don't actively get worse.
- MaximumBone

We all knew there was no way certain guys were going to repeat those years so why not be proactive and actually try to get the guys who can come in and help? I’m still baffled as to why Chia thought this was a good decisi.....nvm I got all the answers I need from typing that name

I think I'm getting onboard with Nurse-Larsson and Klefbom-Benning as the top 4. Klefning's numbers together are actually pretty surprisingly solid.

Maybe Tippett can turn Koskinen into the next Roloson.
- RafiDRW

(frank) that I want the next Ranford....you know the guy that won the cup without Gretzky

I think I'm getting onboard with Nurse-Larsson and Klefbom-Benning as the top 4. Klefning's numbers together are actually pretty surprisingly solid.
- MaximumBone

I’m willing to bet that Klefbom as a second pair guy who plays PP minutes will increase his chances of making it past 60 games played if not more

Because (frank) you
- MaximumBone

You got your third line center and a first for a middle six winger. Vancouver gets (frank)ed in the ass. What’s wrong with my trade?

We all knew there was no way certain guys were going to repeat those years so why not be proactive and actually try to get the guys who can come in and help? I’m still baffled as to why Chia thought this was a good decisi.....nvm I got all the answers I need from typing that name
- RatedR80

But even just keeping Eberle instead of trading him would've meant a world of difference. Even just having him means we would have two scoring lines.

(frank) that I want the next Ranford....you know the guy that won the cup without Gretzky
- RatedR80

You get a different Bill.

You got your third line center and a first for a middle six winger. Vancouver gets (frank)ed in the ass. What’s wrong with my trade?
- RafiDRW

Very generous perception of Helm you've got going on there Also, we don't get Stecher, so that's the other problem.

But even just keeping Eberle instead of trading him would've meant a world of difference. Even just having him means we would have two scoring lines.
- MaximumBone

With more holes to fill as well....yes keep Ebs but have enough foresight to understand that Letestu and Hendricks weren’t going to repeat their success (there was no reason to suggest on numbers that this would be the new norm)....I hope the Wild hire Chia

Very generous perception of Helm you've got going on there Also, we don't get Stecher, so that's the other problem.
- MaximumBone

Hey. Babcock called Helm the best third line center in 2011 or so. Eight years barely registers against hockey players. Right Jonathon Cheechoo, Dustin Penner, Damien Brunner, Ville Leino, and Patrik Stefan?

You get a different Bill.


- RafiDRW

The only cups that Bill is used to are the jello cups he laced with drugs

Very generous perception of Helm you've got going on there Also, we don't get Stecher, so that's the other problem.
- MaximumBone

What about Stetcher do you like? I feel like I’m missing the boat on something here

I’m willing to bet that Klefbom as a second pair guy who plays PP minutes will increase his chances of making it past 60 games played if not more
- RatedR80

Hopefully. Even if it just delays the callup of Jones and Lagesson for an extra few months before they're pushed into the NHL, then I'm happy. I really think Willy Legs will do some good stuff next year and assert himself as a perfect bottom pairing D (ala Gunnarsson).

With more holes to fill as well....yes keep Ebs but have enough foresight to understand that Letestu and Hendricks weren’t going to repeat their success (there was no reason to suggest on numbers that this would be the new norm)....I hope the Wild hire Chia
- RatedR80

Then they can take Russell

The only cups that Bill is used to are the jello cups he laced with drugs
- RatedR80

Hopefully. Even if it just delays the callup of Jones and Lagesson for an extra few months before they're pushed into the NHL, then I'm happy. I really think Willy Legs will do some good stuff next year and assert himself as a perfect bottom pairing D (ala Gunnarsson).
- MaximumBone

Also helps that they actually got time to develop as opposed to being shoved right in and being expected to perform....have the Oilers actually learned something?