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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 3 @ 6:31 PM ET
James Mirtle of The Athletic writes that Mitch Marner is not interested in a long-term contract extension with the Maple Leafs. This is not new information as it’s been widely reported he does not want to give away too many years of unrestricted free agency. What hasn’t been reported is the speculated counter Marner made to the Maple Leafs after they offered him eight years at more than $10 million per season.

Marner rumoured to counter at 3/10m bridge

Just gotta luv it 😂😂
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 3 @ 6:40 PM ET
I don't know man, 100 escort in vegas gets you an STI. Might as well just give it to a homeless person.
- neem55


Gambling addiction? Unprotected sex in Vegas is the ultimate gamble. It's like the Deer Hunter but with Vaginas.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Aug 3 @ 6:55 PM ET
Glad we didn't pick that french dude in the 2nd round, what a floater he is, oilers can have him.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 3 @ 6:57 PM ET
Stecher/Virtanen/Eriksson
for
Puljujarvi/2nd/Russell

Oil get an Affordable mobile RHD for a plug
Swap of 1st rounders
New scenery for LE to help their defensive play
Russel 3rd pairing 2/4m left

Ferland EP Boeser
JTM Bo JP
Sven Gaudette Pearson
Leivo Beagle Sutter

Edler Myers
Hughes Tanev
Benn Russell

- Nighthawk


Getting rid of the local boys huh...? Oil not up to taking on LE contract now.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 3 @ 7:12 PM ET
Glad we didn't pick that french dude in the 2nd round, what a floater he is, oilers can have him.
- Bettmanhatesus

Initially in preseason I liked Lavoie but quickly lost any interest in him
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 3 @ 7:15 PM ET
Getting rid of the local boys huh...? Oil not up to taking on LE contract now.
- NuckUp

They take on 9.7m for 4m plus JP’s new deal & another 1m for an AHL demotion.
The cap doesn’t work agreed forcing Holland to swing another deal. Losing Russell is the caveat & improved depth the reason, the local boys just happen to be a fluke & not beholden to them.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 3 @ 7:24 PM ET
They take on 9.7m for 4m plus JP’s new deal & another 1m for an AHL demotion.
The cap doesn’t work agreed forcing Holland to swing another deal. Losing Russell is the caveat & improved depth the reason, the local boys just happen to be a fluke & not beholden to them.

- Nighthawk


They traded for Neal doubling up on another big contract question mark in LE isn't a move Holland will do just to add Stecher over Russell.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 3 @ 7:32 PM ET
They traded for Neal doubling up on another big contract question mark in LE isn't a move Holland will do just to add Stecher over Russell.
- NuckUp

Either can be exposed for the e-draft. Not likely another player is worth taking considering their depth. A small enticement probably makes it certain. JV for JP is more than fair considering JP’s demands & pouting. Russell has no future & Stecher can add much more mobility & gutsy play the Oilers need. The overall speed gained is easily a good fit for the Oilers. LE can fill roles the Oil sorely lack.

To make the cap work a revised trade

JV/Stecher/Schaller/LE
for
JP/Russell/Gagner/2nd or 3rd
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Aug 3 @ 7:43 PM ET
Either can be exposed for the e-draft. Not likely another player is worth taking considering their depth. A small enticement probably makes it certain. JV for JP is more than fair considering JP’s demands & pouting. Russell has no future & Stecher can add much more mobility & gutsy play the Oilers need. The overall speed gained is easily a good fit for the Oilers. LE can fill roles the Oil sorely lack.

To make the cap work a revised trade

JV/Stecher/Schaller/LE
for
JP/Russell/Gagner/2nd or 3rd

- Nighthawk

Why help out the coIles? Unless it's a fleece job.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 3 @ 8:13 PM ET
Either can be exposed for the e-draft. Not likely another player is worth taking considering their depth. A small enticement probably makes it certain. JV for JP is more than fair considering JP’s demands & pouting. Russell has no future & Stecher can add much more mobility & gutsy play the Oilers need. The overall speed gained is easily a good fit for the Oilers. LE can fill roles the Oil sorely lack.

To make the cap work a revised trade

JV/Stecher/Schaller/LE
for
JP/Russell/Gagner/2nd or 3rd

- Nighthawk



Team culture won't be improved bringing in that package. There are other ways to get rid of LE.

LE goes to Sens for Ryan so they save real dollars. Canucks buy out in two years.

If you want JP the Oil would want a more vet top six or a combo prospect. Perhaps Pearson plus Goldy.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 3 @ 8:34 PM ET
Team culture won't be improved bringing in that package. There are other ways to get rid of LE.

LE goes to Sens for Ryan so they save real dollars. Canucks buy out his deal in in two years.

If you want JP the Oil would want a more vet top six or a combo prospect. Perhaps Pearson plus Goldy.

- NuckUp


I’ve posted Ryan trades & got no traction here.

Rather keep Pearson & open up a spot for Goldy for a show me season. As for culture we net lose 1 roster player & can let time work out the details. Gaining a contract spot is good.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 3 @ 8:45 PM ET
My thinking is Stecher is expendable for the right trade or package to get us one more good piece. In the next 1-3yrs we have OJ Woo Rathbone Utenen to look & hope for to be good adds. Other prospect D can be stay at home types to round out pairings. Overall I’m liking the potential the JB’s have drafted or signed.

In that same 3yr time frame prospect F’s will have pushed out some vets. Podz Hoagie Madden etc.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 3 @ 8:52 PM ET
On another tangent...

Uncle Lou in NY likes his goalies so maybe Dipietro is of interest or maybe Marky if Demko can break out this season or shows he can take the load of 50-55 games.

Wahlstrom would be my target somehow & they have Dobson & Wilde in the D pipeline. They do want more offence up front mainly at C but those are very hard to get.




NJD can use depth so Sutter comes to mind & a goalie. Same goes for the Sabres.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 3 @ 11:52 PM ET
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 4 @ 12:08 AM ET
Either can be exposed for the e-draft. Not likely another player is worth taking considering their depth. A small enticement probably makes it certain. JV for JP is more than fair considering JP’s demands & pouting. Russell has no future & Stecher can add much more mobility & gutsy play the Oilers need. The overall speed gained is easily a good fit for the Oilers. LE can fill roles the Oil sorely lack.

To make the cap work a revised trade

JV/Stecher/Schaller/LE
for
JP/Russell/Gagner/2nd or 3rd

- Nighthawk

Pooparty for Joe Levy
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Aug 4 @ 12:12 AM ET
On another tangent...

Uncle Lou in NY likes his goalies so maybe Dipietro is of interest or maybe Marky if Demko can break out this season or shows he can take the load of 50-55 games.

Wahlstrom would be my target somehow & they have Dobson & Wilde in the D pipeline. They do want more offence up front mainly at C but those are very hard to get.




NJD can use depth so Sutter comes to mind & a goalie. Same goes for the Sabres.

- Nighthawk


Why & who does he play with? We have Boeser for Pettersson & he definitely isn’t a compatible option for Bo.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 4 @ 12:29 PM ET
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 4 @ 12:36 PM ET
Craig Buttons projected Jr. Canada line up
Laffy Veleno Dach
Foote Hayton Noel
Foudy Dellandrea Thomas
Fortier Cozens
Lavoie

Byram Dobson
Smith Dumby-Docker
McIsaac Barron
Bahl

Rodrigue

---------------------------
First of all if that is all Canada can field for a team, I wouldn't be shocked with another QF loss.

Other thoughts.
Woo>Dumby-Docker
Newhook>Foote
Krebs>Noel
McMichael>Fortier
If Lavoie makes the team, you might as well have gone with 8 D and used one of them as a forward.

World Juniors is about speed and scoring.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 4 @ 12:38 PM ET

- boonerbuck

Went boating yesterday. Shallow lake, nice calm day, water choppy as hell. Tubbing was a wild ride.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 4 @ 12:46 PM ET
Everybody seen Zator's prospect list.
10. MacEwen
Lind
Dipeitro
Madden
Juolevi
Woo
Demko
Podkolzin
Hoglander
1. Hughes

Wagners Prospect Pyramid
Tier 1 - Hughes
Tier 2 - Demko, Juolevi, Podkolzin
Tier 3 - Dipetro, Madden, Woo, Hoglander
Tier 4 - MacEwen, Perron, Lind, Raffety, Rathbone,Lockwood

Ben Kerr TSP on LWOH
1. Hughes
Podkolzin
Demko
Juolevi
Woo
Hoglander
DiPietro
Madden
Brisebois
Lockwood.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 4 @ 12:57 PM ET
I am wondering from the "whiners" club what exactly could have Jim Benning done better over his time to make this team more competitive and be SC finalists by now?

Please no "what if", actual solid proof of how things could have been different.

Also how many are up for the vacant Minnesota Wild job?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 4 @ 1:22 PM ET
I am wondering from the "whiners" club what exactly could have Jim Benning done better over his time to make this team more competitive and be SC finalists by now?

Please no "what if", actual solid proof of how things could have been different.

Also how many are up for the vacant Minnesota Wild job?

- manvanfan


First of all, every scenario anyone could propose is a what if, so your question is bull poop.

But...

He could have kept and made his own draft selections instead of chasing some competitiveness / Sedin window.

Signing UFA's? Whatever, it's only money, and based on the old group of players, none of those signing did much to help the team be competitive. But if they had managed to flip even a few more guys (a la Vanek) there would be another half dozen guys pushing for NHL action by now.

They still probably are not contenders for another couple seasons, but they would certainly have more depth, and be capable of sustaining their competitiveness longer.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
Went boating yesterday. Shallow lake, nice calm day, water choppy as hell. Tubbing was a wild ride.
- manvanfan



boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 4 @ 1:29 PM ET
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 4 @ 1:31 PM ET
Everybody seen Zator's prospect list.
10. MacEwen
Lind
Dipeitro
Madden
Juolevi
Woo
Demko
Podkolzin
Hoglander
1. Hughes

Wagners Prospect Pyramid
Tier 1 - Hughes
Tier 2 - Demko, Juolevi, Podkolzin
Tier 3 - Dipetro, Madden, Woo, Hoglander
Tier 4 - MacEwen, Perron, Lind, Raffety, Rathbone,Lockwood

Ben Kerr TSP on LWOH
1. Hughes
Podkolzin
Demko
Juolevi
Woo
Hoglander
DiPietro
Madden
Brisebois
Lockwood.

- manvanfan


I just can't buy into this pick yet, probably just a Russian thing.
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