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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 5 @ 12:47 PM ET
It would surprise me if he looks more NHL ready than Sheary. Even Okposo, who is 80% done, will look way better in preseason than Cozens, I think.

Those guys are pros. If he looks the part, he should get a shot.

- jcragcrumple



I think he gets a 9 game look and is sent back.

If for nothing else it’s to give him a taste and show what he needs to work at to make the team next season.

It doesn’t hurt his development to do this.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 5 @ 12:48 PM ET
So the kid shows he belongs and has 6 or 7 points and he should be sent down because you say so?

Look, you're probably right he will end up being sent down after his 9 games.

But you get yourself in trouble when you say things like "no matter what"

- Stripes77


After tage and Casey it’s time to let players develop properly and not let their success go to your head of making decisions
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 5 @ 12:49 PM ET
I think he gets a 9 game look and is sent back.

If for nothing else it’s to give him a taste and show what he needs to work at to make the team next season.

It doesn’t hurt his development to do this.

- dadeadhead



Exactly

It's either he looks completely ready and stays and they don't mess with him sitting every other game or he plays his 9 games and goes back

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 5 @ 12:51 PM ET
After tage and Casey it’s time to let players develop properly and not let their success go to your head of making decisions
- gerbe75pts



What does this mean to you?

Serious question

You do know every player develops at their own pace right?

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Aug 5 @ 12:53 PM ET
He looked good his first year ..

So you can’t say “he’s not ready “

- gerbe75pts

Guess playing him 14 minutes a night may have ruined him. He shot 21% his rookie year and never again shot double digits % again. He looked good in one lockout shortened season. Yep 100% ready.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
Guess playing him 14 minutes a night may have ruined him. He shot 21% his rookie year and never again shot double digits % again. He looked good in one lockout shortened season. Yep 100% ready.
- adambuffalo


I have no clue what happened to Edmonton Oilers in general they were a mess and suck at everything and I think that’s when they fired the coach when he had his best season
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 5 @ 12:57 PM ET
I have no clue what happened to Edmonton Oilers in general they were a mess and suck at everything and I think that’s when they fired the coach when he had his best season
- gerbe75pts



Who was their coach that year???
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 5 @ 12:57 PM ET
What does this mean to you?

Serious question

You do know every player develops at their own pace right?

- Stripes77


It happened to Sam b , Curtis Lazar , gus those players who knows what kind of players they could’ve been if they were properly developed and handled correctly instead they became checking role players right ?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 5 @ 12:58 PM ET
Who was their coach that year???
- Stripes77


Our coach we have now I believe
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 5 @ 12:59 PM ET
It happened to Sam b , Curtis Lazar , gus those players who knows what kind of players they could’ve been if they were properly developed and handled correctly instead they became checking role players right ?
- gerbe75pts



So if he had spent 2 years in Roch instead of 1, he'd be what, exactly?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 5 @ 12:59 PM ET
Our coach we have now I believe
- gerbe75pts



So maybe, just maybe Ralph knows how to handle the kids?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 5 @ 12:59 PM ET
He almost won rookie of the year

Then he sucked

- gerbe75pts



He finished 5th in the voting by 620 points.


https://www.hockey-refere...s/voting-2013.html#calder

How the hell is that almost wining?

Brenden Gallagher almost won though.


adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Aug 5 @ 1:02 PM ET
After tage and Casey it’s time to let players develop properly and not let their success go to your head of making decisions
- gerbe75pts


Casey spent a year in college and Tage did two years. Maybe going back to Lethbridge is not the answer for him. He's not playing with a lot of talent and there may not be anything left for him to learn there.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 5 @ 1:02 PM ET
He finished 5th in the voting by 620 points.


https://www.hockey-refere...s/voting-2013.html#calder

How the hell is that almost wining?

Brenden Gallagher almost won though.

- dadeadhead


He was fine though after that he was trash
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 5 @ 1:03 PM ET
Casey spent a year in college and Tage did two years. Maybe going back to Lethbridge is not the answer for him. He's not playing with a lot of talent and there may not be anything left for him to learn there.
- adambuffalo


Sounds like I went back in time to 2012 when we said the same thing about a prospect
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 5 @ 1:08 PM ET
He was fine though after that he was trash
- gerbe75pts



He wasn’t fine he had 16 points (6 goals, 4 of which were on the pp) in his 1st 34 games then got hot and had 15 in his last 14 games.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:10 PM ET
Ok but he’s not ready hopefully botts isn’t that idiotic ..

Let’s rush a prospect thats worked well in the past

- gerbe75pts

dahlin, eichel and myers sucked their first year


it clearly never works

if the kid is one of the best, he should stick and play meaningful minutes

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 5 @ 1:10 PM ET
It happened to Sam b , Curtis Lazar , gus those players who knows what kind of players they could’ve been if they were properly developed and handled correctly instead they became checking role players right ?
- gerbe75pts



Players either have it or they don't. Proper development might speed up a player's effectiveness, and poor development might delay it, but if a player is good enough, he eventually figures it out.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:12 PM ET
Yes after his nine game try out whatever no matter what he should be sent down
- gerbe75pts

and if he has 6 or 7 points after 9 games, and is one of our 6 best players up front, he should stick


only a dumba$$ would say he has to be sent down w/o seeing him in training camp and the 9 game window he is allowed to play
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:13 PM ET
So the kid shows he belongs and has 6 or 7 points and he should be sent down because you say so?

Look, you're probably right he will end up being sent down after his 9 games.

But you get yourself in trouble when you say things like "no matter what"

- Stripes77

if he is one of the best, he will stick

despite what mini me says
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:14 PM ET
What does this mean to you?

Serious question

You do know every player develops at their own pace right?

- Stripes77

pretty sure nhl ready prospects get to learn a lot more practicing with the big club on a daily basis then learning bad habits dominating a league with 17 year olds
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:16 PM ET
He finished 5th in the voting by 620 points.


https://www.hockey-refere...s/voting-2013.html#calder

How the hell is that almost wining?

Brenden Gallagher almost won though.

- dadeadhead

his Dad needs a refund from all those colleges in all those states that he paid for


clearly didn't work
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 5 @ 1:18 PM ET
dahlin, eichel and myers sucked their first year


it clearly never works

if the kid is one of the best, he should stick and play meaningful minutes


- homiedclown


First overall picks ... and wait you said Myers winning rookie of the year was the worst ever 😮
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 5 @ 1:18 PM ET
pretty sure nhl ready prospects get to learn a lot more practicing with the big club on a daily basis then learning bad habits dominating a league with 17 year olds
- homiedclown


I felt they should have kept Reinhart up in 2014-2015 for that very reason. The team was going nowhere (intentionally), and he was too good for his Junior team. He might as well take his lumps at the NHL level, even if he was behind the curve.

That said, this team should at least be able to pretend to compete for a playoff spot this year, so Cozens is in a much different boat.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 5 @ 1:18 PM ET
So if he had spent 2 years in Roch instead of 1, he'd be what, exactly?
- jcragcrumple


He should of Stayed in college he was rushed
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