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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Any Patrick Laine Deal HAS to include Max Domi . Is it worth it? Mellanby.
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 3 @ 2:24 PM ET

- systemtool

Maybe he meant over 2 seasons. Nick Schmaltz may turn out to be the biggest disappointment in the history of the NHL.
Frozendisc
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Boise, ID
Joined: 08.22.2018

Aug 3 @ 2:28 PM ET
Is it worth it you ask......but you don't give the specifics. 1 for 1 would be a see you later Domi......instantly.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Aug 3 @ 2:31 PM ET

- systemtool

RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Aug 3 @ 2:31 PM ET
Is it worth it you ask......but you don't give the specifics. 1 for 1 would be a see you later Domi......instantly.
- Frozendisc

Smart take.
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Aug 3 @ 2:33 PM ET
Their is no way Domi alone is worth Laine! It would take better players than Domi for the Jets to do a Laine trade.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 3 @ 2:34 PM ET
Their is no way Domi alone is worth Laine! It would take better players than Domi for the Jets to do a Laine trade.
- islansjet

Domi plus Ryder, Halak and a 2nd for Laine and Dale Hawerchuk.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 3 @ 2:35 PM ET
Domi plus Ryder, Halak and a 2nd for Laine and Dale Hawerchuk.
- gergeswillems



Get with the times man. Its Drouin some guy named Juulsen and a 2nd.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 3 @ 2:37 PM ET
Get with the times man. Its Drouin some guy named Juulsen and a 2nd.
- systemtool

Hawerchuk is a future Nick Schmaltz though.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 3 @ 2:39 PM ET
Hawerchuk is a future Nick Schmaltz though.
- gergeswillems



Player one scored 44 goals. Player two scored 27.

"Keep player two cause bodychecks, goals don't win you games!"
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Aug 3 @ 2:49 PM ET
Ek, any more follow-up on the Sabres offer sheet? Remember how I said they were probably just busy working on an extension for McCabe before his arb hearing tomorrow. Nailed it. Sabres announced the McCabe extension today. But maybe they were working on a big offer sheet at the same time? It's possible. Ask your source and report back.
- uofcguy

Don't hold your breath... Ek only has dredger as a source and maybe someone with the flyers.
mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild
Location: Frostbite Falls, MN
Joined: 10.23.2014

Aug 3 @ 2:50 PM ET
I would say, in Laines defense, that's hes not even in his prime, while Domi is hitting his. If it took domi several years to step up his game you have to afford Laine some time too. I think in his prime hes going to average 40-50 goals a year and still can round his game more than what it is today.

Took Ovie some time to grasp the two way game but he slowly got there even if hes not the best at it.

The issue here is that Habs are desperate for a center so they cant afford to lose Domi. But I think Laines stats will exceed Domis when all is said and done.

36, 44 and 30 goals from ages 18 19 20 is amazing. Imagine what he can do when hes 24, Domis age. Mean while domi got like 18, 9(59 games, probably hits 14 if healthy) and 9 from ages 20,21,22.

The way I see it, this is being judged when Domi had his best year of his career and Laine his worst. Many mistakes are made when judging or comparing players using this method. The big picture gets missed when focusing on a sample size.

- systemtool

To be fair though, domi was on some pretty terrible teams and completely misused whereas Laine has had the benefit of playing with great linemates on an overall good team.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Aug 3 @ 2:51 PM ET
Their is no way Domi alone is worth Laine! It would take better players than Domi for the Jets to do a Laine trade.
- islansjet

If Habs can turn gally into domi and domi plus something into laine... That'd be unreal.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 3 @ 2:58 PM ET
If Habs can turn gally into domi and domi plus something into laine... That'd be unreal.
- kaptaan

It would be the greatest or most horrible trade in the history of the NHL. Or even professional sports. Or the Louisiana Purchase even.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Aug 3 @ 3:00 PM ET
It would be the greatest or most horrible trade in the history of the NHL. Or even professional sports. Or the Louisiana Purchase even.
- gergeswillems

Jimmy would be upset that the US isn’t renting the territory.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 3 @ 3:06 PM ET
Jimmy would be upset that the US isn’t renting the territory.
- RafiDRW

If only Thomas Jefferson offered Napoleon Bonaparte a 90+ point soldier like Nick Schmaltz's great ancestor (Richard Schmaltz). It may have changed history forever. Certainly the history of the NHL.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Aug 3 @ 3:10 PM ET
Domi is an all-around better player than Laine and I don't think that's debatable, plus he's a legit top-six center. The main difference here is goal-scoring prowess.

Laine is probably going to be a 35G guy on average, but Domi is much harder gauge. He's scored 18, 9(52 games), 9 and 28. We really don't know yet if last season was an aberration for Domi or him settling in.

I'd give Domi the benefit of the doubt and say he's good for 20 to 25 goals a year. You combine that with the fact he's simply a better player, you just don't move him.

- Rinosaur

Since when is Domi a legit 1C/2C?
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
Don't hold your breath... Ek only has dredger as a source and maybe someone with the flyers.
- kaptaan

DodgeSoups
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 06.30.2019

Aug 3 @ 3:34 PM ET
No way Domi is part of this deal! Domi is part of the core going forward if Bergevin trades him he’s a complete idiot!

As far as being a true 1C goes, Montreal doesn’t have one. They have two great second line centres in Danault and Domi. Until KK can step up, they NEED both those guys. Domi was the Habs leading scorer as a top 6 centre. Habs have been desperate for top notch centres forever.... since Koivu. Are they really going to start going backwards? If Domi is traded, I don't know how that works out.

Side note.....Caulfield will be an ELITE scorer in the NHL.... and despite his size, he’s about as physical as Laine, and he tries a lot harder to be a complete player.
hoowiegalooie
Joined: 11.06.2016

Aug 3 @ 3:46 PM ET

Yes, I would ABSOLUTELY do it! Domi, a 1st (2021 draft) and Brooks or Juulson. It's a no brainer. The Habs are rich in prospects. Price and Weber are aging. The time is now!
Robeun
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: SK
Joined: 01.28.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:47 PM ET
Domi Loves MTL (or so it seems ) But Patrick is an great goal scorer I think the numbers in MLT would come down (30 -35 goals) for Patrick as there is More depth of forward goal scores and play makers with the jets than with the habs, In the end you are going to have to pay for Domi in a year anyway I think I would make the trade as long as it is Domi and picks and no other roster players. Does Laine want to stay in WPG? only he knows
DodgeSoups
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 06.30.2019

Aug 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
Since when is Domi a legit 1C/2C?
- mjones242


72 points is definitely a top-six centre! Lower end #1, Top end #2. Look at NHL.com, Domi’s 72pts last season ranks 26th among centres!

So, to answer your question, since when is Domi a legit 1C/2C? Since last year!
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 3 @ 4:09 PM ET
Just offer-sheet him, did it once might as well take another crack at it.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 3 @ 4:31 PM ET
wrong. any Laine deal has to include the Winnipeg Jets and money. And term.

That's it. Solid fiction writing though. Watch out Stephen King.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 3 @ 4:34 PM ET
Patrick Laine for Max Domi would instantly be the worst trade in the history of the NHL. I don't think the Jets have a very good GM, but I would be absolutely shocked if he was this bad.
- James_Tanner


Holy (frank) man. Every week something is "the worst in history" or "the greatest in history".

The problem with identifying things as the worst or the best is that can only occur once. In other words...if Steve Yzerman is the worst GM in history for his handling of Stamkos than how can McPhee also be the worst GM in history for his building of great teams.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 3 @ 4:36 PM ET
Domi just established himself as a top line center... you would trade him off that quickly for a winger.... albeit a fantastic goal scoring winger. 😆
- mnhockeyguy


If Domi is your standard for a 'top line center' I'd hate to see your wife. 72 points or something like that in a season where total goals has been at its highest in a decade...
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