As a rookie, I did. Mostly because he hit 40 goals. 69 points as a rookie is actually good and remember that was a mess of a team he was on as they finished dead last the year before. So I'm not sure I buy that as an excuse to why Domi wasnt able to perform on a bad team.
- systemtool

He's had a superstar winger to play with in Marner his whole career hasn't he (not to take anything away from him)? The Coyotes have had a bad team, bad coach, and uninspiring fan attendance for years; Domi is clearly thriving in a more passionate hockey market. He still has to prove last years numbers weren't a fluke, no argument there. To get to the Laine argument though, it makes no (frank)ing sense to trade our #1 center and more besides to pay Laine 11 million plus. Great player, but too many assets and cap space spent on one player. I don't know why I keep giving Ek hits spitting out this nonsense about Laine and Montreal. If we're going to do anything it should be an offer sheet just below the 4 first rounder compensation with low term and hope it gets Laine to jump ship.

He's had a superstar winger to play with in Marner his whole career hasn't he (not to take anything away from him)? The Coyotes have had a bad team, bad coach, and uninspiring fan attendance for years; Domi is clearly thriving in a more passionate hockey market. He still has to prove last years numbers weren't a fluke, no argument there. To get to the Laine argument though, it makes no (frank)ing sense to trade our #1 center and more besides to pay Laine 11 million plus. Great player, but too many assets and cap space spent on one player. I don't know why I keep giving Ek hits spitting out this nonsense about Laine and Montreal.
- apex123

Alright, I agree with this...but, Laine will give you 10 years or more, of 30+ goals, where as Domi will give you..6 with the way he plays ??
Laine is a special player lol, but not a leader. Domi I could see being a captain soon. I'd love Laine on the Islanders, but not Domi ( we got Lee 🤪 ). It's not an ideal trading situation for either team. As an Isles fan, I wouldn't trade Lee for Laine, and Domi will be better than Lee in 2-3 years.

He's had a superstar winger to play with in Marner his whole career hasn't he (not to take anything away from him)?
- apex123

I think Matthews, in 3 seasons, has played a grand total of about 6 even strength shifts with Marner.

I think Matthews, in 3 seasons, has played a grand total of about 6 even strength shifts with Marner.
- viper488

I forgot Babcock insists on not stacking the first line, but he at least had Nylander. Toronto still has issues with their defense, but their forward group has been at least good in all of Auston's time as a Leaf.

Nice strawman argument. The point I was making was that Domi has comparable numbers to first line centers. I'm using your man crush Matthews to drive home how ridiculous your argument is that 72 points isn't first line production. Got that or do I need to dumb it down more?
- apex123

You’re right he’s #26 so technically in the top 31 so a 1C. Fits perfectly as 1C if you want to be the 26th place team. Enjoy him.

You’re right he’s #26 so technically in the top 31 so a 1C. Fits perfectly as 1C if you want to be the 26th place team. Enjoy him.
- Dr. Leaf

Lol. Those loser Blues with O'Reilly who only have the 15th best center? What a middle of the pack team. Or even better those 14th position mediocre Bruins with Bergeron who poop on your team year after year?

I've also mentioned the ability to put up those numbers on a consistent basis. You're sure good at dumbing things up by ignoring the whole point. You're also ignoring the fact Matthew's was injured and on a ppg pace for 2 of his 3 season, the 1st which was less than ppg because he was a rookie. And a teenager.

72 points is good and all but its gotta be done consistently before hes considered one of the better point producers in the game. Once in 4 seasons doesnt cut it. The true number one line players are pretty much ppg players on a more consistent basis. Not doing it once in 4 seasons.

Matthews has been alot more consistent and a far more reliable producer than Domi. If you cant accept that, it's fine. If you think Domi is as good as Matthews. That's awesome. You should tell more people that. Cause 73 points in 68 games is not the same as 72 points in 82 games.

But hey, if you close your eyes hard enough and tap your ruby red slippers just right, anything is possible i guess.
- systemtool

It's wishful thinking on your behalf if you think Domi is just going to fall off. I think your judgement is clouded partially due to the jersey he now wears and it's quite obvious you didn't watch him play this past year (likely outside of the Queef/Habs games). Domi thrives in the spotlight and we both know it doesn't get any brighter than Montreal, he will be fine moving forward. He's expressed over and over about how much he loves Montreal/playing in Montreal and it showed in his 1st year.

He also missed significant time during his 2nd year, played on sh!t Arizona teams with a coach he didn't see eye to eye with. I wouldn't put him in the elite class of centres *yet* at least but he's in that 2nd tier with the ability to still grow into a better point producer as he's only 24.

You also have to take in account who he plays with as the influx of kids come in he'll have more highly skilled line-mates that will pad his stats. Glasshews may produce more but Domi is more physical and has a superior 2-way game.

Side note: Glasshews being injured for 2 of the 3 seasons if anything is a bad case for him, injuries are a part of the game if he's not durable enough to the point where he can't go a season without missing significant time then that is a major issue in itself. Can't play the what if game, durability is one of those things that separates the men from the boys.

Your ass Ek

It's wishful thinking on your behalf if you think Domi is just going to fall off. I think your judgement is clouded partially due to the jersey he now wears and it's quite obvious you didn't watch him play this past year (likely outside of the Queef/Habs games). Domi thrives in the spotlight and we both know it doesn't get any brighter than Montreal, he will be fine moving forward. He's expressed over and over about how much he loves Montreal/playing in Montreal and it showed in his 1st year.

He also missed significant time during his 2nd year, played on sh!t Arizona teams with a coach he didn't see eye to eye with. I wouldn't put him in the elite class of centres *yet* at least but he's in that 2nd tier with the ability to still grow into a better point producer as he's only 24.

You also have to take in account who he plays with as the influx of kids come in he'll have more highly skilled line-mates that will pad his stats. Glasshews may produce more but Domi is more physical and has a superior 2-way game.

Side note: Glasshews being injured for 2 of the 3 seasons if anything is a bad case for him, injuries are a part of the game if he's not durable enough to the point where he can't go a season without missing significant time then that is a major issue in itself. Can't play the what if game, durability is one of those things that separates the men from the boys.
- Komisaurus Rex

Hey Sally, your purse doesnt match your triggered saltiness. Or your heels.

My team has Tavares and Matthew's. I have no interest in whether he falls off , parachutes down or grows hot dogs on his back and flaps them to higher levels. Your number one center would be my teams 3rd line center. You really need to rethink that one.

But hey tell the world how Dummi > Glasshews. Everyone will be leaf you.

Hey Sally, your purse doesnt match your triggered saltiness. Or your heels.
- systemtool

Check and mate

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Check and mate

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- Komisaurus Rex

I meant a live person as a source.

Ek has 2, dredger and someone with the flyers
- kaptaan

Hey Sally, your purse doesnt match your triggered saltiness. Or your heels.

My team has Tavares and Matthew's. I have no interest in whether he falls off , parachutes down or grows hot dogs on his back and flaps them to higher levels. Your number one center would be my teams 3rd line center. You really need to rethink that one.

But hey tell the world how Dummi > Glasshews. Everyone will be leaf you.
- systemtool

And yet your unflappable, superior team only managed to finish 4 points ahead of a retooling *pun intended* Habs team in a transition year without their best Dman for half the season. I mean if that's the hill you're choosing to die on then by all means you do you booboo.

And yet your unflappable, superior team only managed to finish 4 points ahead of a retooling *pun intended* Habs team in a transition year without their best Dman for half the season. I mean if that's the hill you're choosing to die on then by all means you do you booboo.


- Komisaurus Rex

So...you're happy your team finished behind mine and I should be ashamed for being better. Cool story. Cant wait for the sequel.

Yea...even though he played a whopping 60 something games, 2nd most games played in nhl history. With that many games elite centers should post 120 points at least. Real number one centers only need 82 games to hit 72.

You got me there!
- systemtool

So he’s injury prone? Is that what your saying?

So he’s injury prone? Is that what your saying?
- K-man25

Hard to say. Hes only played 3 seasons. He could be. Its definitely a concern. Would you say EP is because he got concussed in his first NHL season? I don't think so. Need a bigger pattern or picture before I label Matthews that or any player.

Hard to say. Hes only played 3 seasons. He could be. Would you say EP is because he got concussed in his first NHL season? I don't think so. Need a bigger pattern or picture before I label Matthews that or any player.
- systemtool

That turns into a terrible contract if you just gave 11.6M to an injury prone player who can't seem to rise to the occasion in the playoffs..

That turns into a terrible contract if you just gave 11.6M to an injury prone player who can't seem to rise to the occasion in the playoffs..
- Komisaurus Rex

10 goals in 20 playoff games for 19-21 year old isn't exactly a disappearing act. That's more goals than Domi got in his 2nd and 3rd nhl seasons.

But hey you're right. It's too bad they arent paying double digits for healthy reliable players that get them in the playoffs like Weber and Price. Matthew's being over 30 makes things look bad for the Leafs. Price and Weber on the other hand arent even their primes. Watch out when they are!

You're hitting hard today Sally. Love the sass!

10 goals in 20 playoff games for 19-21 year old isn't exactly a disappearing act. That's more goals than Domi got in his 2nd and 3rd nhl seasons.

But hey you're right. It's too bad they arent paying double digits for healthy reliable players that get them in the playoffs like Weber and Price. Matthew's being over 30 makes things look bad for the Leafs. Price and Weber on the other hand arent even their primes. Watch out when they are!

You're hitting hard today Sally. Love the sass!
- systemtool

I don't care how many goals Domi had when he half aszed it for sh!tty Arizona teams. Domi is a better playmaker than Glasshews. Glasshews has never topped 36 assists and Mad Max has already eclipsed that in just his first year in Montreal.

Glasshews may have scored a few goals in the playoffs but he's not a leader, Bergeron has made him look like an utter fool in back to back years now. Completely shut him down.

Just wait until you see Domi in the playoffs then you'll grasp the difference.

That turns into a terrible contract if you just gave 11.6M to an injury prone player who can't seem to rise to the occasion in the playoffs..
- Komisaurus Rex

Matthews has lead the Leafs in both goals and points for 2 of the 3 playoff appearances in his career.

I would prefer Domi over Laine.

I don't care how many goals Domi had when he half aszed it for sh!tty Arizona teams. Domi is a better playmaker than Glasshews. Glasshews has never topped 36 assists and Mad Max has already eclipsed that in just his first year in Montreal.

Glasshews may have scored a few goals in the playoffs but he's not a leader, Bergeron has made him look like an utter fool in back to back years now. Completely shut him down.

Just wait until you see Domi in the playoffs then you'll grasp the difference.
- Komisaurus Rex

oh, you’re just a salty Leaf-hater. Nevermind.

Matthews has lead the Leafs in both goals and points for 2 of the 3 playoff appearances in his career.
- Steven_Seagull

Does that say more about Glasshews or perhaps his supporting cast? Goals are nice but as a centre especially a #1 centre you're required to do more than just score goals, no?

I don't care how many goals Domi had when he half aszed it for sh!tty Arizona teams. Domi is a better playmaker than Glasshews. Glasshews has never topped 36 assists and Mad Max has already eclipsed that in just his first year in Montreal.

Glasshews may have scored a few goals in the playoffs but he's not a leader, Bergeron has made him look like an utter fool in back to back years now. Completely shut him down.

Just wait until you see Domi in the playoffs then you'll grasp the difference.
- Komisaurus Rex

😂

You're quite rattled. What's up? Got something up the Aho?
- systemtool

You know you lost the debate when your triggered butt is recycling the joke I just used.. weak dude.. just weak