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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Any Patrick Laine Deal HAS to include Max Domi . Is it worth it? Mellanby.
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 4 @ 10:47 AM ET
The players value diminishes if GMs know the team has to move the asset. That's not to say the Jets wouldn't get a hefty return still.
- Komisaurus Rex


It would be like all other teams, I think. The Jets will keep both those guys, the star players, and shuffle around vets and depth guys to make room.

Unless you're chiarelli and you sell the stars for depth players.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Aug 4 @ 10:49 AM ET
Leaving the shiiit show called the Coyotes and going to MTL/CHI did wonders for BOTH Domi and Strome! Maybe, just maybe, the players were inconsistent because the team that drafted them was inept!?

Guaranteed, both Strome and Domi continue to build on great seasons with their new teams

- rrentz


Arizona finished in a similar position in conference standings as Montreal. It's been easy to make fun of them for a while now, but they were a team that needed a rebuild after their conference final appearance.
Aeolos
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 09.30.2015

Aug 4 @ 10:51 AM ET
Yes but they arent desperate to unload these guys and if they were on the market alot of teams would line up to aquire them. They dont need to make a bad trade.
- systemtool

I agree with that. They arent desperate yet. Something has to break unless they can get those two to take a bridge deal. According to Capfriendly they have 17 locked up with 17.5mil to spend. Lets be nice and say they both take even 7mil each. That leaves 3.5mil to roster 4 guys. Clearly that wont work. I would think the other GM's are circling like sharks just waiting because Winnipeg has to do something.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
Arizona finished in a similar position in conference standings as Montreal. It's been easy to make fun of them for a while now, but they were a team that needed a rebuild after their conference final appearance.
- leafsfann


The Yotes point total isn't the issue I discussed, it is how two of their 1st rounders sucked there, and now are flourishing with other teams. My meaning being, that young guns haven't done the best there. Keller isn't exactly blowing the doors off there either.. It's kind of a show me season for him as well
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
You didn't read what I said wittle George Willy. Glasshews is the better goal scorer but outside of scoring he doesn't excel at much else. Domi is the better playmaker and his stats with inferior linemates support that claim. Glasshews 2-way game is terrible, everyone knows that. Domi prides himself in being a hardworking 2-way centre, Glasshews could careless about the defensive responsibilities of a centre. Does that mean Glasshews can't develop a 2-way game? no, but as of right now it's not something he has in his repertoire. Don't sit here all butthurt at me for stating your precious isn't a complete centre Babs could vouch for me.
- Komisaurus Rex


Komisaurus Rex
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Its Danielle Smith & Scott Moe vs the WEF/CCP backed criminal tyrants, game on! ๐Ÿค , ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Aug 4 @ 10:55 AM ET
It would be like all other teams, I think. The Jets will keep both those guys, the star players, and shuffle around vets and depth guys to make room.

Unless you're chiarelli and you sell the stars for depth players.

- systemtool



The Jets would be dumb to move either player unless their demands are ridiculous. Some players/agents are demanding more than they are worth and that's where it makes more sense to unload them and get a huge haul instead. The Jets have 17.5M in cap, they shouldn't have any issue locking up both those players. Could always unload Kulikov's ugly contract for extra cap if needed.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Aug 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
The Yotes point total isn't the issue I discussed, it is how two of their 1st rounders sucked there, and now are flourishing with other teams. My meaning being, that young guns haven't done the best there. Keller isn't exactly blowing the doors off there either.. It's kind of a show me season for him as well
- rrentz


If anything this is just a good argument on not giving up on players who aren't 23 yet. They can turn the corner at any moment.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
The Jets would be dumb to move either player unless their demands are ridiculous. Some players/agents are demanding more than they are worth and that's where it makes more sense to unload them and get a huge haul instead. The Jets have 17.5M in cap, they shouldn't have any issue locking up both those players. Could always unload Kulikov's ugly contract for extra cap if needed.
- Komisaurus Rex


Connie should come in at 6mill or so and Laine at 8? Is that accurate? If so, then what's the hold up?
Aeolos
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 09.30.2015

Aug 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
The Yotes point total isn't the issue I discussed, it is how two of their 1st rounders sucked there, and now are flourishing with other teams.
- rrentz

Yep pretty happy in Chicago with Strome. Whatever the problem was he is playing much more like one would expect or hope given his high draft position
Komisaurus Rex
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Its Danielle Smith & Scott Moe vs the WEF/CCP backed criminal tyrants, game on! ๐Ÿค , ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Aug 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
I agree with that. They arent desperate yet. Something has to break unless they can get those two to take a bridge deal. According to Capfriendly they have 17 locked up with 17.5mil to spend. Lets be nice and say they both take even 7mil each. That leaves 3.5mil to roster 4 guys. Clearly that wont work. I would think the other GM's are circling like sharks just waiting because Winnipeg has to do something.
- Aeolos


And Laine and Connor are waiting to see what Marner and Point get before figuring how much they could get.
Komisaurus Rex
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Its Danielle Smith & Scott Moe vs the WEF/CCP backed criminal tyrants, game on! ๐Ÿค , ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Aug 4 @ 11:00 AM ET
Connie should come in at 6mill or so and Laine at 8? Is that accurate? If so, then what's the hold up?
- rrentz


The other RFA dominoes to fall first.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 4 @ 11:01 AM ET
The Jets would be dumb to move either player unless their demands are ridiculous. Some players/agents are demanding more than they are worth and that's where it makes more sense to unload them and get a huge haul instead. The Jets have 17.5M in cap, they shouldn't have any issue locking up both those players. Could always unload Kulikov's ugly contract for extra cap if needed.
- Komisaurus Rex

They'll unload depth players like I said to get it done. Same as Leafs did with Marleau and Tbay did with Miller and Callahan.

They may have to unload a pick or two to make it happen though.
Aeolos
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 09.30.2015

Aug 4 @ 11:03 AM ET
No agent wants to make the first move and set the market for the others.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 4 @ 11:05 AM ET
No agent wants to make the first move and set the market for the others.
- Aeolos



I think we all know the market, roughly...no?

Anywhere between 8 - 11 million. Most likely the 9 or 10 million mark.
Aeolos
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 09.30.2015

Aug 4 @ 11:14 AM ET
I think we all know the market, roughly...no?

Anywhere between 8 - 11 million. Most likely the 9 or 10 million mark.

- systemtool

If Winnipeg had say 20 or 21 rostered they would be fine. But with only 17 they still need 6 guys with 17.5mil left and if that is what the agents are asking 8 - 11 one of those players will not be on the team this season. In a trade they cant take back anyone to high on the $ scale They dont have the money if they did they would just sign them both now. There roster has a lot of guys with long term and some with a form of NMC or NTC. They just dont have alot to move to clear space. They have a couple but it will take more moving parts [at trade or two to sigh them]
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 4 @ 11:17 AM ET
Sabres signed their 3 RFA's this week and are now over the cap. But also possibly preparing an offer sheet for a "prominent" RFA. Sources. Bedlam.
- uofcguy

Laffs are gonna lose all their busts to offersheetz
uofcguy
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.18.2019

Aug 4 @ 11:17 AM ET
Now that the Sabres signed their RFA's this weekend and are OVER the cap...can we still expect them to sign a prominent RFA to an offer sheet?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 4 @ 11:25 AM ET
If Winnipeg had say 20 or 21 rostered they would be fine. But with only 17 they still need 6 guys with 17.5mil left and if that is what the agents are asking 8 - 11 one of those players will not be on the team this season. In a trade they cant take back anyone to high on the $ scale They dont have the money if they did they would just sign them both now. There roster has a lot of guys with long term and some with a form of NMC or NTC. They just dont have alot to move to clear space. They have a couple but it will take more moving parts
- Aeolos[at trade or two to sigh them]


They can roll with less than a 23 man roster and fill in gaps with league minimum players. Time and time again we see teams close to the cap or in cap hell keep their young stars and make the cap work around them. This will be the case for Winnipeg too.

I don't see Connor in the same bracket as Marner, Laine, Point and rantanen
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 4 @ 11:57 AM ET
Good God George Willy you can't be this dumb. I am saying Babs has vented his frustrations with Glasshews inability to perform at the defensive side of the ice on numerous occasions, he would agree with the statement that he needs to improve his game away from the puck. That's what that means. I thought I watered that down enough for ya. Guess not.


- Komisaurus Rex

KomiSally you are without a shadow of a doubt the dumbest and most triggered person on hockey buzz. It's either you or Tanner. ๐Ÿ˜‚ You prove it with every uninformed, idiotic post you make. Now you're imagining having a relationship with Mike Babcock. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Try to live in reality for a few minutes, KomiSally.

Truth is if Matthews were a Hab, you'd say that he's the greatest player in NHL history. But because he's a Leaf he's overrated. Jealousy breeds contempt. That's you. Cheer for the laundry, KomiSally. Keep lowering the hockey IQ level on hockey buzz! ๐Ÿ˜‚
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 4 @ 12:08 PM ET
The players value diminishes if GMs know the team has to move the asset. That's not to say the Jets wouldn't get a hefty return still.
- Komisaurus Rex

Just like how Carolina HAD to trade Aho? How did that work out for Bergy, KomiSally? Now that Aho won't be a Hab, he's garbage now right? Is that how things work when you cheer for the laundry like you do? ๐Ÿ˜‚
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 4 @ 12:16 PM ET
I'm not in favour of trading Domi for Laine. It would have to be Domi ++ for Laine and that makes it even worse. Laine would be a great get for the Habs but not at the expense of Domi + a top prospect and a top pick.

Besides Goal Caufield could potentially grow into a better sniper than Laine.


- Komisaurus Rex

Shouldn't Caufield prove he can crack an NHL roster first and score at Laine's pace before he can be compared to Laine? Can you answer this without being triggered, KomiSally? ๐Ÿ˜‚
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 4 @ 12:19 PM ET
Shouldn't Caufield prove he can crack an NHL roster first and score at Laine's pace before he can be compared to Laine? Can you answer this without being triggered, KomiSally? ๐Ÿ˜‚
- gergeswillems


I would think that's obvious, but nothing wrong banking on young player's potential and not going for a FA based on fact in believing in your own player/prospects
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 4 @ 12:38 PM ET
I would think that's obvious, but nothing wrong banking on young player's potential and not going for a FA based on fact in believing in your own player/prospects
- rrentz

I think Caufield will be a very good NHL player. But it's ignorant to compare him to Laine right now.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 4 @ 12:51 PM ET
This is also a joke right? Or you are just one massive idiot?
- Habsody


I hope this is just you being a homer, and youโ€™re not really this dumb. I suspect itโ€™s a bit of both

If you canโ€™t see that Laine is exponentially more valuable than Domi, I donโ€™t know what to tell you

This trade will never happen. But if the Habs somehow got Laine for a package including Domi, a-level prospects and picks, it would be a steal

Domi isnโ€™t very good

Komisaurus Rex
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Its Danielle Smith & Scott Moe vs the WEF/CCP backed criminal tyrants, game on! ๐Ÿค , ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Aug 4 @ 12:58 PM ET
I would think that's obvious, but nothing wrong banking on young player's potential and not going for a FA based on fact in believing in your own player/prospects
- rrentz


You aren't allowed to be excited about your teams prospects might offend other teams fans apparently. I guess when your team has nothing coming in the pipeline it's pure envy.


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