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jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 5 @ 12:29 PM ET
Stephen Whyno
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Shattenkirk: "I think I’m pissed off at myself for not taking advantage of the opportunity to play at home better and give them a reason to make it a no-brainer that this wouldn’t be their decision."

Adds he's no fan of Rangers going into rebuild.

Shattenkirk on his time with the Rangers: "It’s definitely not a success story.”
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 5 @ 12:31 PM ET

Jim Cerny
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Considering #NYR cap situation and his struggles, surprised to hear Shatty say he was shocked by buy out. Pissed off, sure. Shocked?
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 5 @ 12:32 PM ET
Stephen Whyno
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@SWhyno

Shattenkirk: "I think I’m pissed off at myself for not taking advantage of the opportunity to play at home better and give them a reason to make it a no-brainer that this wouldn’t be their decision."

Adds he's no fan of Rangers going into rebuild.

Shattenkirk on his time with the Rangers: "It’s definitely not a success story.”

- jimbo83


My first two thoughts is, what did you expect him to say and it seems like Whyno is reaching here. He doesn't say anywhere there that he didn't like the team was rebuilding. The team was bad while he was here of course it isn't a success story.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 5 @ 12:32 PM ET
He was the worst GM ever.

It would honestly be a real long summary, but off the top of my head:

- Was absolutely nuts about things leaking out of the front office and, on numerous occasions, berated his staff and threatened their jobs if they were caught leaking info to the media. Also, in the midst of a losing streak, gave the team a stern talking to when the Coyle for Donato trade leaked before a team flight. He apparently completely blew up on the flight. He also, separate occasion I believe, confronted Russo demanding to know who his sources were.

- Completely ignored his AGM's and scouting staff on a few occasions. Apparently made the Niederreiter for Rask trade without scouting or watching any video on Rask. Or talking to E. Staal, who played with him.

- Basically ran his analytics staff out of the building

- Alienated his staff in general. Ran a MIN favorite, Andrew Brunette, out of town, tried to strip his chief contract negotiator of his asst. GM title for some reason, forced some higher level execs to, basically, take glorified amateur scout jobs, put his son in a role he probably wasn't ready for

- Made some extremely questionable roster decisions:

Here’s the problem though: According to Hurricanes sources, the Canes planned to buy out Rask this summer and watched Niederreiter 10 times in the weeks leading up to the trade. There was consensus on their pro side that if Niederreiter got elevated minutes in a top-six role, he’d succeed in Raleigh. However, according to sources, not a single Wild scout was sent to watch Rask in person, and there were already limited viewings because he snipped his finger during a kitchen accident last offseason and missed time.

and:

The Granlund-for-Fiala trade was the one that sparked the most angst.

There were a number of people inside the organization who were worried that over that month leading into the trade deadline Fenton became too singularly focused and “obsessed” with getting Fiala, whom he feels could become a game-breaker. It apparently took some convincing from his staff to keep Fenton from giving up more than Granlund and even retaining salary.

“There was just frustration beyond comprehension,” a source said.



There was a ton of stuff in there. He (Russo) apparently did a radio hit after the article dropped and said that he heard, from only one source (not multiple, which he prefers to confirm across before citing in a written article) that Fenton didn't understand how salary retention works. He, allegedly, though that the salary retained is only for that season and not for the entire remaining term on the contract

- eichiefs9

who the frank hired this guy in the first place

Surprised it took this long to fire him
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 5 @ 12:33 PM ET
Stephen Whyno
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@SWhyno

Shattenkirk: "I think I’m pissed off at myself for not taking advantage of the opportunity to play at home better and give them a reason to make it a no-brainer that this wouldn’t be their decision."

Adds he's no fan of Rangers going into rebuild.

Shattenkirk on his time with the Rangers: "It’s definitely not a success story.”

- jimbo83


Don't know where he says he is "no fan of the Rangers rebuild"... Looks like he just says his time there wasn't a success with the team.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
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Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 5 @ 12:33 PM ET

Stephen Whyno
@SWhyno

Shattenkirk: "I’m not mad at the decision. Definitely not. A lot of these things, they have to be learning experiences." Doesn't regret signing with Rangers.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 5 @ 12:35 PM ET
Stephen Whyno
@SWhyno

Shattenkirk: "I’m not mad at the decision. Definitely not. A lot of these things, they have to be learning experiences." Doesn't regret signing with Rangers.

- jimbo83

idk you would think he would be mad. You were just basically embarrassed and cut from the team you grew up loving and took a discount to play for
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 5 @ 12:44 PM ET
idk you would think he would be mad. You were just basically embarrassed and cut from the team you grew up loving and took a discount to play for
- TPC



Maybe he shouldn't have sucked then.
Liamano
New York Rangers
Location: When I order Chinese, I ask fo, NY
Joined: 08.01.2007

Aug 5 @ 12:44 PM ET
idk you would think he would be mad. You were just basically embarrassed and cut from the team you grew up loving and took a discount to play for
- TPC


well the Fox trade was a no-brainer. If the Rangers don't land Trouba, then Shatty is still a Ranger, most likely. I don't think anyone thought we would have gotten that kind of value out of kevin Hayes and Neil Pionk. When you swindle a team that bad, you gotta make roster moves to accomodate. I don't think anyone could argue that trouba is a better option than Shatty. Him and Fox are both gonna be the RHD on the PP for years to come.
Liamano
New York Rangers
Location: When I order Chinese, I ask fo, NY
Joined: 08.01.2007

Aug 5 @ 12:46 PM ET
Maybe he shouldn't have sucked then.
- JRR1285


I think he'll play well in Tampa. His skill set is one that is better suited for a playoff-ready team, which we are not.
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Aug 5 @ 12:50 PM ET
idk you would think he would be mad. You were just basically embarrassed and cut from the team you grew up loving and took a discount to play for
- TPC


he got injured yeah, but if he would of bounced back and played better this would not be an issue, but h didn't so it was he drew the short straw...
jimbo83
New York Rangers
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Aug 5 @ 1:08 PM ET
well the Fox trade was a no-brainer. If the Rangers don't land Trouba, then Shatty is still a Ranger, most likely. I don't think anyone thought we would have gotten that kind of value out of kevin Hayes and Neil Pionk. When you swindle a team that bad, you gotta make roster moves to accomodate. I don't think anyone could argue that trouba is a better option than Shatty. Him and Fox are both gonna be the RHD on the PP for years to come.
- Liamano


I still can't believe Pionk got 3 million a year

that's a stunner
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:16 PM ET
I still can't believe Pionk got 3 million a year

that's a stunner

- jimbo83



I hope Trouba is good and Pionk is bad. Imagine Pionk is some kind of revelation and puts up like 50 points.
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Aug 5 @ 1:21 PM ET
who the frank hired this guy in the first place

Surprised it took this long to fire him

- TPC

It really was a great article. Apparently he also hired his own son is the director of amateur scouting too. And he fired Boudreau's close friend who was an assistant coach at the time, and replaced him with one of his own friends. Who does these things?
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:22 PM ET
It really was a great article. Apparently he also hired his own son is the director of amateur scouting too. And he fired Boudreau's close friend who was an assistant coach at the time, and replaced him with one of his own friends. Who does these things?
- TheMessiah94



That's some old school douche baggery right there.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 5 @ 1:23 PM ET
I hope Trouba is good and Pionk is bad. Imagine Pionk is some kind of revelation and puts up like 50 points.
- JRR1285


If Pionk gets his confidence back I could easily see him as a 30-35 point defenseman.

People love to trash our former players but when he was confident he was one of our better defenseman.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
If Pionk gets his confidence back I could easily see him as a 30-35 point defenseman.

People love to trash our former players but when he was confident he was one of our better defenseman.

- mdw7413



I liked him a lot. I would have no problem if he was still here.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
It really was a great article. Apparently he also hired his own son is the director of amateur scouting too. And he fired Boudreau's close friend who was an assistant coach at the time, and replaced him with one of his own friends. Who does these things?
- TheMessiah94

Arrogant assbags that think they can't get fired
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:26 PM ET
I liked him a lot. I would have no problem if he was still here.
- JRR1285

I'm sure the feeling wasn't mutual
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
I'm sure the feeling wasn't mutual
- eichiefs9



Don't you have to be in a video bashing Tavares for the 2019-2020 season?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:32 PM ET
Don't you have to be in a video bashing Tavares for the 2019-2020 season?
- JRR1285

Come on you can do better than that
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
Come on you can do better than that
- eichiefs9



I'm not really into it.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
Don't you have to be in a video bashing Tavares for the 2019-2020 season?
- JRR1285


female dog Lasagna 2
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Aug 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
I'm gonna watch the games anyway
- jimbo83


(frank) ya jimbo
Liamano
New York Rangers
Location: When I order Chinese, I ask fo, NY
Joined: 08.01.2007

Aug 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
I can't believe Pionk got 3 million a year

that's a stunner

- jimbo83


I'll be honest, I really liked Pionk. I thought he was one of the best undrafted signings we had had in a while. The advanced stats guys really took him to task (somewhat unfairly) in his time here; but i think he would benefit from an established defensive system where he can play bottom 4 minutes and work in some PP time.
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