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Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 6 @ 12:35 PM ET
Perlini IMO won't be signed for anything more than 1 million. Stan went out and brought in a lot of young promising forwards. Stan holds all the cards he can either wait him out , or trade him .

Chicago has
Sikura ?
Dach
Nylander
Saarela

Saarela could be the dark horse to make the team
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Aug 6 @ 12:40 PM ET
If there is any chance ADB is looking at Marner type money then try to trade ADB to the Leafs for Marner. Marner probably won't be the sniper ADB is but he's a better playmaker and he is a very strong two way player who would not only be on the top powerplay but the top PK unit as well.
- paulr

Good luck with that . ADB get 50 or 40 plus that kind of consistent goal scoring will but him in a very good position for big money . Marner plays on a pretty stacked team compared to ADB ,and he is a very complete player .Goals are gold in the NHL .
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Aug 6 @ 12:43 PM ET
Perlini IMO won't be signed for anything more than 1 million. Stan went out and brought in a lot of young promising forwards. Stan holds all the cards he can either wait him out , or trade him .

Chicago has
Sikura ?
Dach
Nylander
Saarela

Saarela could be the dark horse to make the team

- Taylorst1


Which team? Rockford?
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Aug 6 @ 12:45 PM ET
23 goals and 47 pts last season which is on par with his career highs of 24 and 53. His first year yes he underperformed as did the entire team. Last year I dont thing so.
- Blackwater13


Saad had a good second half of the season last year. The other 75% broken down into half-seasons, suggests he hasn't moved the needle that much. We now hear that perhaps Shaw will pretty much help galvanize Saad's compete level. Why does it take outside variables to increase someone else's desire, to play balls out? Hope Saad breaks loose this season, but won't be holding my breath. I'd be elated to be proven wrong on this. We would benefit immensely if he meshes well this season.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 6 @ 12:48 PM ET
The #StlBlues 26 y/o RFA LD Joel Edmundson awarded 1 yr $3.1M in arbitration per @FriedgeHNIC. Will be UFA after season.

-2G 11P in 64 GP
-52.4% 5v5 GF
-52.4% Expected GF
-50.6% Corsi
-Scored 0.57 P/60

Question, if you’re the Blues do you walk away from this one?
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Aug 6 @ 12:48 PM ET
Which team? Rockford?
- mohel

I still haven't forgotten Marko Dano was supposed to be the next Hossa... Fans love prospects. Even if they make the NHL and have decent stats, doesn't mean they are winners. Edmonton and Buffalo have been drafting at the top for 10 years, no playoffs.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Aug 6 @ 12:57 PM ET
The #StlBlues 26 y/o RFA LD Joel Edmundson awarded 1 yr $3.1M in arbitration per @FriedgeHNIC. Will be UFA after season.

-2G 11P in 64 GP
-52.4% 5v5 GF
-52.4% Expected GF
-50.6% Corsi
-Scored 0.57 P/60

Question, if you’re the Blues do you walk away from this one?

- walleyeb1


I'd say they keep him.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 6 @ 12:59 PM ET
Perlini IMO won't be signed for anything more than 1 million. Stan went out and brought in a lot of young promising forwards. Stan holds all the cards he can either wait him out , or trade him .

Chicago has
Sikura ?
Dach
Nylander
Saarela

Saarela could be the dark horse to make the team

- Taylorst1



I've read this in a couple of different places and I'm not sure why people think this. I don't see how Saarela would make the team over Sikura, Dach or Nylander. From everything I've read about Saarela he's more of a top-6 type of forward. With Toew, Kane, Strome and Debrincat locked in the top 6 there aren't too many free spaces. It gets worse if Saad plays in the top-6, plus it's likely that Kubalik makes the team.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Aug 6 @ 1:00 PM ET
Saad had a good second half of the season last year. The other 75% broken down into half-seasons, suggests he hasn't moved the needle that much. We now hear that perhaps Shaw will pretty much help galvanize Saad's compete level. Why does it take outside variables to increase someone else's desire, to play balls out? Hope Saad breaks loose this season, but won't be holding my breath. I'd be elated to be proven wrong on this. We would benefit immensely if he meshes well this season.
- gabriel


Where did we hear this? If it's true then yeah, I guess that's a small problem. On the other hand, why do we have to always project what we think is the cause of a player slumping (or just not performing as expected). There can be numerous reasons - nagging injury, something in their personal life, working on adapting a new skill, new system in place, bad luck, gelling with new linemates… the list goes on.

Everyone has bad stretches at work. We have to remember that these players are people as well and they can be affected by the same things that affect anyone else. We also have to remember that this is now their job.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 6 @ 1:00 PM ET
I'd say they keep him.
- mohel


Update: The 2019 walkaway minimum is $4,397,832, meaning #Blues must honour the contract awarded by the arbitrator.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Aug 6 @ 1:00 PM ET
I still haven't forgotten Marko Dano was supposed to be the next Hossa... Fans love prospects. Even if they make the NHL and have decent stats, doesn't mean they are winners. Edmonton and Buffalo have been drafting at the top for 10 years, no playoffs.
- rpeters01


True, but sometimes prospects turn out okay, like Toews, Kane, Seabrook and Keith.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 6 @ 1:01 PM ET
The #StlBlues 26 y/o RFA LD Joel Edmundson awarded 1 yr $3.1M in arbitration per @FriedgeHNIC. Will be UFA after season.

-2G 11P in 64 GP
-52.4% 5v5 GF
-52.4% Expected GF
-50.6% Corsi
-Scored 0.57 P/60

Question, if you’re the Blues do you walk away from this one?

- walleyeb1



LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 6 @ 1:01 PM ET
Good luck with that . ADB get 50 or 40 plus that kind of consistent goal scoring will but him in a very good position for big money . Marner plays on a pretty stacked team compared to ADB ,and he is a very complete player .Goals are gold in the NHL .
- oldduffman


Marner is a 200 ft. player that also penalty kills, ADB hasn't proven any defensive chops as of yet.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Aug 6 @ 1:01 PM ET
Update: The 2019 walkaway minimum is $4,397,832, meaning #Blues must honour the contract awarded by the arbitrator.
- walleyeb1


In that case, I'm certain they'll keep him! They can trade him, though, right?
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 6 @ 1:12 PM ET
I've read this in a couple of different places and I'm not sure why people think this. I don't see how Saarela would make the team over Sikura, Dach or Nylander. From everything I've read about Saarela he's more of a top-6 type of forward. With Toew, Kane, Strome and Debrincat locked in the top 6 there aren't too many free spaces. It gets worse if Saad plays in the top-6, plus it's likely that Kubalik makes the team.
- DarthKane



I never said he was a shoe in , but he definitely is the dark horse that most people forgotten about.
IMO sikura has all the bells and whistles you want in a player , but in reality when you take it out for a test ride it disappoints.

Yes your correct on your point that he is more of a top 6.
Saad plays a nicem200ft game but chemistry with toews and Kane is up and down. Let him play on the 3rd line and create some balance and depth.

Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 6 @ 1:12 PM ET
I've read this in a couple of different places and I'm not sure why people think this. I don't see how Saarela would make the team over Sikura, Dach or Nylander. From everything I've read about Saarela he's more of a top-6 type of forward. With Toew, Kane, Strome and Debrincat locked in the top 6 there aren't too many free spaces. It gets worse if Saad plays in the top-6, plus it's likely that Kubalik makes the team.
- DarthKane



I never said he was a shoe in , but he definitely is the dark horse that most people forgotten about.
IMO sikura has all the bells and whistles you want in a player , but in reality when you take it out for a test ride it disappoints.

Yes your correct on your point that he is more of a top 6.
Saad plays a nicem200ft game but chemistry with toews and Kane is up and down. Let him play on the 3rd line and create some balance and depth.

Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 6 @ 1:22 PM ET
Where did we hear this? If it's true then yeah, I guess that's a small problem. On the other hand, why do we have to always project what we think is the cause of a player slumping (or just not performing as expected). There can be numerous reasons - nagging injury, something in their personal life, working on adapting a new skill, new system in place, bad luck, gelling with new linemates… the list goes on.

Everyone has bad stretches at work. We have to remember that these players are people as well and they can be affected by the same things that affect anyone else. We also have to remember that this is now their job.

- Chunk




I agree that their are different variables that either make or break a player. Saad once was a solid consistent player and ever Since he came back his play has been inconsistent, especially for what Stan gave up.
Also in any line of work c9mpanies expect their employees to perform and continuously earn their pay and when that employee after every chance fails to improve he or she is fired.

Especially when they are being paid millions of dollars.
Davewn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Des Moines, IA
Joined: 12.16.2015

Aug 6 @ 1:26 PM ET
Marner is a 200 ft. player that also penalty kills, ADB hasn't proven any defensive chops as of yet.
- LAHawk


I think Laine's deal (whatever that turns out to be) will end up giving us a pretty good idea of ADB's market value...
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 6 @ 1:30 PM ET
I think Laine's deal (whatever that turns out to be) will end up giving us a pretty good idea of ADB's market value...
- Davewn


I agree , the only issue with that is Winnipeg doesn't have a cap problem , their swimming in money right now.
Stan won't have the same leverage next year to be as flexible
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 6 @ 1:34 PM ET
In that case, I'm certain they'll keep him! They can trade him, though, right?
- mohel


I don’t know, haven’t been able to find the answer to that question.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 6 @ 1:38 PM ET
I agree , the only issue with that is Winnipeg doesn't have a cap problem , their swimming in money right now.
Stan won't have the same leverage next year to be as flexible

- Taylorst1


Yes they do, they have 17 players signed at $63mil, and have to sign both Laine and Kyle Connor. When they sign those 2 ($15-$16 mil. in my estimate), they will still only have 10 forwards signed. And even though they have 7 defeseman signed, I don't think you ant to start the season with the defense that they have, after losing Trouba and Myers.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
I never said he was a shoe in , but he definitely is the dark horse that most people forgotten about.
IMO sikura has all the bells and whistles you want in a player , but in reality when you take it out for a test ride it disappoints.

Yes your correct on your point that he is more of a top 6.
Saad plays a nicem200ft game but chemistry with toews and Kane is up and down. Let him play on the 3rd line and create some balance and depth.

- Taylorst1



Would that be a brown shoe or black shoe?

I like Saad on the third line, not that Saad is a third line player but it creates more balance. In the top 3 lines the Hawks have solid pairings - Toews/Kane, Strome/Debrincat and Saad/Shaw. Of course lines will be mixed up and there's always the nuclear option when the team is down by a goal late in the game. But I think this is a good starting point.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Aug 6 @ 1:57 PM ET
Would that be a brown shoe or black shoe?

I like Saad on the third line, not that Saad is a third line player but it creates more balance. In the top 3 lines the Hawks have solid pairings - Toews/Kane, Strome/Debrincat and Saad/Shaw. Of course lines will be mixed up and there's always the nuclear option when the team is down by a goal late in the game. But I think this is a good starting point.

- DarthKane


It's the hawks we're talking about. Blowman & McMeddle with Crabby Clothes Clashing Coach Colliton running this team into the ground ... it can only be a big red clown shoe.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Aug 6 @ 2:32 PM ET
It's the hawks we're talking about. Blowman & McMeddle with Crabby Clothes Clashing Coach Colliton running this team into the ground ... it can only be a big red clown shoe.
- I Am The Breadman


You may choose to give credit where credit is due. The coaching style Colliton used was to try to outscore teams last season. That reportedly was by design: Bowman and Colliton came up with that in their talk when Colliton was hired and before he coached an NHL game.

I will judge Colliton by his performance after off season player transactions and a new defensive system + new coaches transcends anything from last season. Marc Crawford is a great hands on ast coach who will help too. Colliton has coached and played the gsme at NHL level (briefly - Islandees).. He went far in AHL playoffs. He is qualified and able enough.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Aug 6 @ 2:55 PM ET
Would that be a brown shoe or black shoe?

I like Saad on the third line, not that Saad is a third line player but it creates more balance. In the top 3 lines the Hawks have solid pairings - Toews/Kane, Strome/Debrincat and Saad/Shaw. Of course lines will be mixed up and there's always the nuclear option when the team is down by a goal late in the game. But I think this is a good starting point.

- DarthKane


I like the "balanced lines" theory, but we've seen before when putting a lesser player on a top line drags the rest of the line down.

I prefer that the coaches be less rigid in how they construct the lines and more intent on making sure they have four lines that they can roll throughout the game. I don't want to see the 4th line averaging 6 mins or whatever they got last year.
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