Shattenkirk signs one year deal with Tampa for 1.75
- MBFlyerfan

Meanwhile we got Braun for a 2nd and 3rd

Meanwhile we got Braun for a 2nd and 3rd
- 2Real

Shattenkirk the guy who hid behind Petriangelo, got cut loose and has been an absolute liability. Their past seaon were almost identical (10 assist difference) but one guy had 56% ozone starts and PP time while Braun has 41% dzone starts and had no PP time

Shattenkirk the guy who hid behind Petriangelo, got cut loose and has been an absolute liability. Their past seaon were almost identical (10 assist difference) but one guy had 56% ozone starts and PP time while Braun has 41% dzone starts and had no PP time
- ClaudeFather

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Braun the guy that hid behind Karlsson, Burns, and Vlassic...

Shattenkirk the guy who hid behind Petriangelo, got cut loose and has been an absolute liability. Their past seaon were almost identical (10 assist difference) but one guy had 56% ozone starts and PP time while Braun has 41% dzone starts and had no PP time
- ClaudeFather

I would say Shattenkirk was more so hidden behind the Blues defense then one player such as Petriangelo. There is no denying everyone here knew Petriangelo was a really, really good number one defender in this league but I don’t think we saw how great he was and his secondary (Jay Bouwmeester and Colton Parayko)until this past playoffs. Giving a player like Kevin Shattenkirk offensive starts and sheltering him from defensive situations is no different from what we do with Gostishebere or what’s been done with Erik Karlsson most of his career. I think Erik Karlsson ever winning a Noris is a joke but this is another conversation.

With this said, if anyone can turn Kevin Shattenkirk a winner, it’s Tampa Bay.

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Braun the guy that hid behind Karlsson, Burns, and Vlassic...
- 2Real

Oops.

You might be right.

I would say Shattenkirk was more so hidden behind the Blues defense then one player such as Petriangelo. There is no denying everyone here knew Petriangelo was a really, really good number one defender in this league but I don’t think we saw how great he was and his secondary (Jay Bouwmeester and Colton Parayko)until this past playoffs. Giving a player like Kevin Shattenkirk offensive starts and sheltering him from defensive situations is no different from what we do with Gostishebere or what’s been done with Erik Karlsson most of his career. I think Erik Karlsson ever winning a Noris is a joke but this is another conversation.

With this said, if anyone can turn Kevin Shattenkirk a winner, it’s Tampa Bay.
- SuperSchennBros

The ozone starts was in reference to the little point discrepancy. Yes, the group as a whole sheltered him. Great move by Tampa but to sit there and say we have Braun and had to pay x and x is absurd.

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Braun the guy that hid behind Karlsson, Burns, and Vlassic...
- 2Real

One guy plays the tough minutes, does a fine job while the other plays the not so tough minutes and hasn't produced lately, do we really need a past his prime offensive Dman that has looked like a shell of himself since leaving St. Louis and was exposed in Washington in his short time? We have guys that can play PP and move the puck, we don't need an old washed up version.

Meanwhile we got Braun for a 2nd and 3rd
- 2Real

Im thinking you should have emailed the Flyers brass last month to let them know the Rangers were going to buy him out.

In fact, since you knew it was going to happen and you sat on that info, that makes you an A-one toolbag.


Ok, now that I got that silly post out of the way to rival the silliness in your own, damn right I would rather have those picks and that cap space to sign Shattenkirk over Braun. (whose trade I disagreed with from the start and still do)

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Braun the guy that hid behind Karlsson, Burns, and Vlassic...
- 2Real

Now now. He played the right side behind Karlsson and Burns and played as a shut down pairing with Vlasic.

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Braun the guy that hid behind Karlsson, Burns, and Vlassic...
- 2Real

Yup. Hid behind Karlsson and Burns with all those sheltered defensive zone starts and late game shutdown shifts.

Yup. Hid behind Karlsson and Burns with all those sheltered defensive zone starts and late game shutdown shifts.
- bmeltzer

Yup. Hid behind Karlsson and Burns with all those sheltered defensive zone starts and late game shutdown shifts.
- bmeltzer

Yup. Hid behind Karlsson and Burns with all those sheltered defensive zone starts and late game shutdown shifts.
- bmeltzer

Bill Meltzer, for the win!

Not like a new coach is going to fix the pitching or batting
- 2Real

I don't really believe that. It's his call as to how the guys make their approaches at the plate and his management of the bullpen has been suspect.

There's also the whole issue that he doesn't really ever hold guys accountable.

Lists are lists. With his two way play, in my opinion, Couturier belongs on the list. It's a popularity contest and flashy offensive players get more spotlight on them. I'd rather build my team around a 70 point Selke level 1st line center than a 90 point one way center.

I don't really believe that. It's his call as to how the guys make their approaches at the plate and his management of the bullpen has been suspect.

There's also the whole issue that he doesn't really ever hold guys accountable.
- hereticpride

He's got to go. He doesn't have command of the clubhouse and far too often he burns his bull pen out. Part of that is the starter performance for sure but he doesn't seem to be able to manage his way around that.

Maybe he’s just not that good
- 2Real

Who are we talking about with this statement?

Meanwhile we got Braun for a 2nd and 3rd
- 2Real

We get it....you think the Flyers offseason was a dumpster fire.

Yup. Hid behind Karlsson and Burns with all those sheltered defensive zone starts and late game shutdown shifts.
- bmeltzer

With result of what? 2 goals, 14 assists in 78 games, with a minus 14 rating on a contending team? Great! Braun averages just under 18 minutes a game last season, it doesn’t mean he played well. Braun also isn’t the only player on this ice but he’s one of very few players on the Sharks where their numbers were effected.

In my opinion, the trade was Unnecessary. We should spit shine a turd and convince ourselves it’s pretty. A turd in a Tuxedo is still a turd.

Aside from the weird details of the Gudas/Niskanen deal, this is the only trade I’m fine with. I would rather the kids play through their growing pains.

Yup. Hid behind Karlsson and Burns with all those sheltered defensive zone starts and late game shutdown shifts.
- bmeltzer

whew glad those 2 are both Norris trophy winners

what woudl you guys rather have shattenkirk at 1.75, 2nd, and 3rd round pick or braun

what woudl you guys rather have shattenkirk at 1.75, 2nd, and 3rd round pick or braun
- 2Real

Oh you knew Shattenkirk would be bought out and signed for 1/1.75? What else is going to happen that noone else knows about yet??

what woudl you guys rather have shattenkirk at 1.75, 2nd, and 3rd round pick or braun
- 2Real

I doubt Shattenkirk wanted 1.75 deal with flyers. Tampa was best team last year and is still stacked. at this point in his career he prob wants a ring over the big check which Tampa makes the most sense imo. He’s made plenty of money already. Plus is still paid by Rangers.

With result of what? 2 goals, 14 assists in 78 games, with a minus 14 rating on a contending team? Great! Braun averages just under 18 minutes a game last season, it doesn’t mean he played well. Braun also isn’t the only player on this ice but he’s one of very few players on the Sharks where their numbers were effected.

In my opinion, the trade was Unnecessary. We should spit shine a turd and convince ourselves it’s pretty. A turd in a Tuxedo is still a turd.

Aside from the weird details of the Gudas/Niskanen deal, this is the only trade in fine with. I would rather the kids play through their growing pains.
- SuperSchennBros

Why not wait till the season starts and wait for at least half a season to see how the trade works out. Not saying you will, but people would female dog and moan about the GM not getting the young players enough help just like Hexy failed to.

what woudl you guys rather have shattenkirk at 1.75, 2nd, and 3rd round pick or braun
- 2Real

Braun easily as he is the much better dman