The cap is going up. There's plenty of $ to keep Barrie.
- RogerRoeper

the cap is probably gonna go down, just because i said so and hockey is boring now.

the cap is probably gonna go down, just because i said so and hockey is boring now.
- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns

Gotcha.

Leafs are in cap hell!!!!!

Offersheets everywhere!

We'll see about that in a few months.



- Komisaurus Rex

Friendly wager?

Not doubting that but money for D has to come from somewhere. If not traded then it’s all hopes on prospects. Not a bad thing.
- Nighthawk

Late replying - with Sandin and Liljgren coming, if they manage it right and don’t burn an ELC year this season that’s two contributors - even as 4-6 guys - at a great value for 3 years. Sign Dermot. Muzzin, Barrie and Ceci come off the books opening up $11.25M. Fwd is set.

Notice that all the other teams up against the cap don't get the same questions about how they'll improve? Such a double standard

Late replying - with Sandin and Liljgren coming, if they manage it right and don’t burn an ELC year this season that’s two contributors - even as 4-6 guys - at a great value for 3 years. Sign Dermot. Muzzin, Barrie and Ceci come off the books opening up $11.25M. Fwd is set.
- Deeps27

Pretty sure I read Liljgren ELC starts this year regardless.

Notice that all the other teams up against the cap don't get the same questions about how they'll improve? Such a double standard
- RogerRoeper

Who are you saying this to for the 9024th time?

Who are you saying this to for the 9024th time?
- Garnie

Wait a minute, I only got 9017 times.

What 7 did I miss

Friendly wager?
- Garnie

That the Habs make the playoffs? Yes, I've tried to propose that to a few Leafs fans on here all of them predictably didn't respond.

Notice that all the other teams up against the cap don't get the same questions about how they'll improve? Such a double standard
- RogerRoeper

My team gets no respect. Up against the cap with Tkachuk and Mangiapani still to sign. Prospect pool depleted. Only difference is we have a top 5 defence. Kids are alright.

Wait a minute, I only got 9017 times.

What 7 did I miss
- Aetherial

When you went to make pee lol

It's funny, somebody on here, sorry can't remember who said Toronto is not the centre of the hockey universe, yet here we are in August talking about a Toronto FA, when there are arguably at least 2 other better FA (Point and Rantanen) and some others on the same level as Marner. But we talk about Marner
- Ogimaa

You mean to say that 90% of posts are of Toronto fans talking about Toronto players and then use the post volume to justify they are the center of the universe.

I actually like Toronto's team, it'd be fun to watch them all season. But for gosh sakes, how about winning a playoff series once a century, eh? Until they can prove they are more than just a JV playoff squad against Montreal and Boston, the only universe they are the center of has a shrine with a big 'L' they pay homage to.

When you went to make pee lol
- Nighthawk

damn prostate

You mean to say that 90% of posts are of Toronto fans talking about Toronto players and then use the post volume to justify they are the center of the universe.

I actually like Toronto's team, it'd be fun to watch them all season. But for gosh sakes, how about winning a playoff series once a century, eh? Until they can prove they are more than just a JV playoff squad against Montreal and Boston, the only universe they are the center of has a shrine with a big 'L' they pay homage to.
- DontKnowNutin

Why the (frank) would Ceci do this?

Why would he want to go to UFA where he likely gets much less than 4.5?

Please understand how Qualified RFA’s work.

Hutton was not even qualified. Why? Because he sucks?

Nope, because if they did Hutton could of signed a 1 year 3 million dollar deal.

Ceci was qualified. He was signing 4.5 million at the minimum wether the Leafs liked it or not.
- Santo_44

Yes, this is true, also why he is still available.

Just because there are 3 offers, doesn't mean Marner is obligated to sign any of them.

6 years at 10 million, 8 years at 11 million...while looking nice are BOTH wayyyyyy outside the 11.5 over 5 years he wants close to.

6 years might be fine...if Leafs upped it to 11.5 or 12 million.
8 years might work too....if 14 million was the amount

But, none of the 3 offers you mentioned was close to the Matthews deal....and THAT is the ballpark Marner wants. Buckle up. This is going well into training camp, and likely the start of the season.
- hawk35

So you're saying that the Leafs need to over pay him more than these "reported" over payment numbers?

Amazing.

I'll tell you what works for Marner: what Matthews got.

I'll tell you what works for Marner: what Matthews got.
- archromat

If marner gets that, hall will be set to be the league's highest paid player

Late replying - with Sandin and Liljgren coming, if they manage it right and don’t burn an ELC year this season that’s two contributors - even as 4-6 guys - at a great value for 3 years. Sign Dermot. Muzzin, Barrie and Ceci come off the books opening up $11.25M. Fwd is set.
- Deeps27

They'll announce a Tyson Barrie extension in Jan for 8 years x 8M.

That the Habs make the playoffs? Yes, I've tried to propose that to a few Leafs fans on here all of them predictably didn't respond.
- Komisaurus Rex

Who has more points - Leafs vs Habs

Loser has to have the other teams avatar and profess their love of the other team in their location...until the beginning of the next season.

I'll tell you what works for Marner: what Matthews got.
- archromat

I really like Marner. He is a great talent and appears to have all the tools that will enable him to become a game breaker when everything is on the line.

Does he bring enough to help get the Leafs over the hump? The Leafs have created a culture of failure. The have a remarkable history of choking. Hard to remember the last time they won a playoff round. Clearly Tavares and Matthews are part of the softness and choking that are the Leafs. I believe Marner is different and it would be a mistake for the Leafs to let him get away.

Also think, for the same reasons, it was an error to let Kadri leave.

They'll announce a Tyson Barrie extension in Jan for 8 years x 8M.
- Snowman X

Ewww

I really like Marner. He is a great talent and appears to have all the tools that will enable him to become a game breaker when everything is on the line.

Does he bring enough to help get the Leafs over the hump? The Leafs have created a cultural of failure. The have a remarkable history of choking. Hard to remember the last time they won a playoff round. Clearly Tavares and Matthews are part of the softness and choking that are the Leafs. I believe Marner is different and it would be a mistake for the Leafs to let him get away.

Also think, for the same reasons, it was an error to let Kadri leave.
- spatso

I think your cranium is soft.

I really like Marner. He is a great talent and appears to have all the tools that will enable him to become a game breaker when everything is on the line.

Does he bring enough to help get the Leafs over the hump? The Leafs have created a culture of failure. The have a remarkable history of choking. Hard to remember the last time they won a playoff round. Clearly Tavares and Matthews are part of the softness and choking that are the Leafs. I believe Marner is different and it would be a mistake for the Leafs to let him get away.

Also think, for the same reasons, it was an error to let Kadri leave.
- spatso

So you are saying a 21 year old is too soft and a choker. Thats......just stupid.

So you are saying a 21 year old is too soft and a choker. Thats......just stupid.
- mykokes

Tavares has never been able to lead a team, we have a long history of regular and post season failure. Matthews does not seem to have the fire to lead.

I have more hope when it comes to Marner. He does appear to have some fire in his belly.