A better question would be; Does the Pope schit in the woods? 🤔
- ForeverFlyer16

Depends if he is camping or if God tells him (◠‿◕)

Just took a steamy Konecny and forgot to wipe my Eklund (e4)

Just took a steamy Konecny and forgot to wipe my Eklund (e4)
- FLdevilsFAN

Its an offersheet. You have to overpay to get a guy and Konecny is going to be a very skilled goal scorer. He can easily be a future 30+ goal guy, that alone is worth risking a 7 mill AAV long term offersheet. If I were a GM I would consider making that offer.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Anyone takes Connor over Konecny at the same price. You lumped the two together & now defending Konecny. All over the map.

Anyone takes Connor over Konecny at the same price. You lumped the two together & now defending Konecny. All over the map.
- Nighthawk

Defending? My point was these are the type of guys you should offersheet. It doesnt matter who people think is better. The fact is going after guys like Point, Aho, Laine and Marner is pointless because you have to over pay and the compensation is huge and at the end of the day a GM will match. Dubas is full of poop when he said that the would probably walk away if Marner offersheet was placed. He was gonna match regardless. Whereas these guys are a team would possibly walk away from if the cap hit doesnt make sense.

Defending? My point was these are the type of guys you should offersheet. It doesnt matter who people think is better. The fact is going after guys like Point, Aho, Laine and Marner is pointless because you have to over pay and the compensation is huge and at the end of the day a GM will match. Dubas is full of poop when he said that the would probably walk away if Marner offersheet was placed. He was gonna match regardless. Whereas these guys are a team would possibly walk away from if the cap hit doesnt make sense.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

We can and we will

Defending? My point was these are the type of guys you should offersheet. It doesnt matter who people think is better. The fact is going after guys like Point, Aho, Laine and Marner is pointless because you have to over pay and the compensation is huge and at the end of the day a GM will match. Dubas is full of poop when he said that the would probably walk away if Marner offersheet was placed. He was gonna match regardless. Whereas these guys are a team would possibly walk away from if the cap hit doesnt make sense.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Disagree. Connor isn't going to sign an offer sheet for less than $6.3M. So you are still looking at a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. But the Jets would match anyway.

Better strategy is to overpay for an unproven commodity and hope they blossom. Go sign DeAngelo for $4M. NYR would be screwed. So you add the kid for a 2nd and hope he keeps developing. Sign Lemieux for $2M at the same time knowing they absolutely can't match both. So you add him for a 3rd. That's what I would do as GM. Forget the stars. Target guys like this and roll the dice.

Of the 2 teams Winnipeg & Philly it’s the Jets that are in the tighter squeeze. The longer Laine & Connor take to sign the more the Jets can be handcuffed. Waiting to give either a serious OS or as close to training camp as possible puts Chevy in the worst position. 17.5m for 6 players has him behind the 8 ball & cannot commit over paying either & holds up filling his roster. Timing an OS late would be the way to go & leave Chevy to scramble under pressure.

OS Connor at 7/8.4m costs a 1st 2nd 3rd.
I think its worth it. That’s a high price & a big pill to swallow if matched.
If Laine wants say 9m per it leaves 150k to sign 4 players forcing trades at the last minute if not done now or soon. I don’t either wanting to sign a bridge deal. I could be wrong there.

- Aetherial

😂😂😂😂

Of the 2 teams Winnipeg & Philly it’s the Jets that are in the tighter squeeze. The longer Laine & Connor take to sign the more the Jets can be handcuffed. Waiting to give either a serious OS or as close to training camp as possible puts Chevy in the worst position. 17.5m for 6 players has him behind the 8 ball & cannot commit over paying either & holds up filling his roster. Timing an OS late would be the way to go & leave Chevy to scramble under pressure.

OS Connor at 7/8.4m costs a 1st 2nd 3rd.
I think its worth it. That’s a high price & a big pill to swallow if matched.
If Laine wants say 9m per it leaves 150k to sign 4 players forcing trades at the last minute if not done now or soon. I don’t either wanting to sign a bridge deal. I could be wrong there.
- Nighthawk

Wrong. 7 x $8.4 equals four 1sts. Try again.

I could see the next CBA battle bringing on another stoppage... and it is probably rightfully so... The Market Price of the Top Tier Players has climbed well higher than normal Inflation should have -- with the lower tiers either following suit, or absorbing the effect -- and the NHL Teams should all now agree that Parity between Large and Small has been accomplished. I'm sure the NHLPA will disagree and force the NHL into locking them out once again... Merely my gut feeling on this.
- ForeverFlyer16

mechanics of the cba are causing this.

min salary started at $550k, 1.15% of the cap.

it's now set at $700K, or less than 1% at 0.86%

if it stayed at 1.15%, min salary would be closer to $950K.

that would cost the leafs around $2-3M extra for 10 bottom players.

That $2-3M would come out of tavares/matthews/marner's salaries, not the middle of the pack players.

but I just don't see the players striking to raise the min salary. Escrow is problem #1.

mechanics of the cba are causing this.

min salary started at $550k, 1.15% of the cap.

it's now set at $700K, or less than 1% at 0.86%

if it stayed at 1.15%, min salary would be closer to $950K.

that would cost the leafs around $2-3M extra for 10 bottom players.

That $2-3M would come out of tavares/matthews/marner's salaries, not the middle of the pack players.

but I just don't see the players striking to raise the min salary. Escrow is problem #1.
- Tumbleweed

But the NHL could again choose the Lockout Route in an attempt to correct (lower) the escalating Salaries... It wouldn't have been bad if Contracts increased across the board along with NHL Revenue, but the Teams have used too much of the Cap in obtaining and maintaining Top Tier Talent... while the Players have used their leverage to gain overpayment and extended Terms on their Contracts. Competitive Teams are forced to either walk the edge of the Cap or dump and Rebuild... Either this continues, or the NHL forces a Correction once again at the next CBA. It won't correct by itself without Collusion... which of course, if possible, would be illegal.

But the NHL could again choose the Lockout Route in an attempt to correct (lower) the escalating Salaries... It wouldn't have been bad if Contracts increased across the board along with NHL Revenue, but the Teams have used too much of the Cap in obtaining and maintaining Top Tier Talent... while the Players have used their leverage to gain overpayment and extended Terms on their Contracts. Competitive Teams are forced to either walk the edge of the Cap or dump and Rebuild... Either this continues, or the NHL forces a Correction once again at the next CBA. It won't correct by itself without Collusion... which of course, if possible, would be illegal.
- ForeverFlyer16

just get rid of the cap so only the strong survive. enough propping up markets that are duds.

But the NHL could again choose the Lockout Route in an attempt to correct (lower) the escalating Salaries... It wouldn't have been bad if Contracts increased across the board along with NHL Revenue, but the Teams have used too much of the Cap in obtaining and maintaining Top Tier Talent... while the Players have used their leverage to gain overpayment and extended Terms on their Contracts. Competitive Teams are forced to either walk the edge of the Cap or dump and Rebuild... Either this continues, or the NHL forces a Correction once again at the next CBA. It won't correct by itself without Collusion... which of course, if possible, would be illegal.
- ForeverFlyer16

Owners have it great. Escrow is their safety net. They can't overspend.

In order to be successful, you have to push boundaries. Teams will always be pushing up against the cap... and should be. Good gm's should figure out how to keep their best players.

Players get screwed. Signing big contracts only contributes to escalating escow.

Owners have it great. Escrow is their safety net. They can't overspend.

In order to be successful, you have to push boundaries. Teams will always be pushing up against the cap... and should be. Good gm's should figure out how to keep their best players.

Players get screwed. Signing big contracts only contributes to escalating escow.
- Tumbleweed

Escrow helps cash spent... but not Cap Concerns... nor ever rising Market Prices of Upper Tier Players. I agree a good GMs should be able to address Cap Concerns... but so many Teams in Cap Hell shortly after July 1st is not a good thing for the NHL... and the ever inreasing RFA Resigning problems around the League, as both sides feel out the Market, only hinders Team Construction across the NHL. The aim is for better Hockey... not testing GM savvy.

Wrong. 7 x $8.4 equals four 1sts. Try again.
- uofcguy

No. The offer sheet must be more than $10,568,589 to qualify for 4 1sts.

8.4 is a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

$8,454,872-$10,568,589 = 2 1sts , 2nd, 3rd

No. The offer sheet must be more than $10,568,589 to qualify for 4 1sts.

8.4 is a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

$8,454,872-$10,568,589 = 2 1sts , 2nd, 3rd
- MBFlyerfan

Wrong again. Read the CBA. 7 x $8.4 = Four 1sts. Nobody is going to pay four 1sts for someone like Connor or Konecny. Maybe Marner or Rantanen. But not these guys.

Enough with the offer sheet nonsense, it's not going to happen. The Aho sheet was the exception and was done because Carolina is cheap. That offer sheet was set up so they would match.

No. The offer sheet must be more than $10,568,589 to qualify for 4 1sts.

8.4 is a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

$8,454,872-$10,568,589 = 2 1sts , 2nd, 3rd
- MBFlyerfan

The AAV for an offer sheet, which determines the compensation required, is derived by dividing the total contract value amount by the lesser of:
number of years offered, or
five (5) years

How many times do we need to talk about this nonsense...

OFFER SHEETS DON’T HAPPEN BECAUSE ALL OF THE TEAMS ARE IN COLLUSION!!!

It’s not complicated...pretty fing obvious.
- bruceflyers

Except Montreal

"However, talking to a source I trust this morning"


so you don't trust some of your sources ???

Escrow helps cash spent... but not Cap Concerns... nor ever rising Market Prices of Upper Tier Players. I agree a good GMs should be able to address Cap Concerns... but so many Teams in Cap Hell shortly after July 1st is not a good thing for the NHL... and the ever inreasing RFA Resigning problems around the League, as both sides feel out the Market, only hinders Team Construction across the NHL. The aim is for better Hockey... not testing GM savvy.
- ForeverFlyer16

Hard to disagree with this.