Idk if saying Sikura does many things well & consistently for a limited amount of games played, but waiting for the first goal is "blind love." I, like some others, are level headed about what he currently brings & like his defensive side. He's got competition to crack the roster, no doubt, but I think he's off to a good start.
- I Am The Breadman

Yep, believing that Sikura is one of the best 13 forwards in the Hawks system is blind love. This was the classic JJ maneuver - accuse anyone who says a positive thing about a whipping boy of his of "putting him in the Hall of Fame". But, the book is in on Sikura - he's played 440 minutes without a goal; he'll suck forever.

Yep, believing that Sikura is one of the best 13 forwards in the Hawks system is blind love. This was the classic JJ maneuver - accuse anyone who says a positive thing about a whipping boy of his of "putting him in the Hall of Fame". But, the book is in on Sikura - he's played 440 minutes without a goal; he'll suck forever.
- mohel

The post hoc fallacy, nice. I've been reading that here a lot lately. The strawman will make a grand reappearance shortly. I can just feel it.

How have you been, Mo?

Yep, believing that Sikura is one of the best 13 forwards in the Hawks system is blind love. This was the classic JJ maneuver - accuse anyone who says a positive thing about a whipping boy of his of "putting him in the Hall of Fame". But, the book is in on Sikura - he's played 440 minutes without a goal; he'll suck forever.
- mohel

I do not frequent casinos but i would place a good amount of money on Sikura blossoming into an average scorer. He can make plays and is not inept to put some pucks in the net. He never showed that in his hockey career. He"ll be ok He is a good example of an complete and compete player. For that reason alone he is worth retaining for at least the majority of the season. See if Sikura success motivates others to raise their level of compete.

I am not sold on Sikura .lot of players but up decent numbers in College and the A then don't translate to the Biggs .I see him as fringe NHL'er at best .Hope I am wrong ,but I think he has been passed by on the depth chart ..

Random baseball thoughts on a boring Sunday:

Anyone think the White Sox are ever gonna become a contender with all these highly thought of prospects? Im seeing more development over these past couple years from the youth in Toronto, San Diego, and definitely Atlanta than I am with the Sox and it’s becoming frustrating. But I guess it’s still far too early to know what they might ultimately become, especially if they make good use of all that $$$.

As for the Cubs there’s no excuses anymore for them to be so inconsistent, not after making several solid moves to upgrade the roster. I like Heyward and Castellanos batting 1-2, gives the lineup tremendous depth. No more holes on offense. They’ve gotta be better, they have the offense and the pitching, at least on paper. If they can’t put it together with this amount of talent then Maddon needs to go.

I suppose none of it matters because nobody is beating the Astros anyways...

It’s not just that he tries hard, he succeeds. So far he’s done everything at a high level except score goals.
- Ogilthorpe2

Like a pilot who’s really good at take-offs and flying, but can’t figure out how to land without crashing.

yeah, cause those are the only options to play goalie in the league.
- Elbows15

Next summer’s FA goalies, by current CAP hit:

Holtby
CC
Lehner
Anderson
Howard
Murray
Markstrom
Greiss
Talbot
Halak
Khudobin

I am not sold on Sikura .lot of players but up decent numbers in College and the A then don't translate to the Biggs .I see him as fringe NHL'er at best .Hope I am wrong ,but I think he has been passed by on the depth chart ..
- oldduffman

He has put up good numbers in the bigs...in every category except goals.

Idk if saying Sikura does many things well & consistently for a limited amount of games played, but waiting for the first goal is "blind love." I, like some others, are level headed about what he currently brings & like his defensive side. He's got competition to crack the roster, no doubt, but I think he's off to a good start.
- I Am The Breadman

I agree. He looked nice for stretches he also had some bad games last year. He’s shown some nice skill. I wouldn’t call him established. He hasn’t played a full season yet!!! He’s hasn’t proven he can do anything at high level and he hasn’t proven he can hang at the NHL level for a full season and produce.

He has put up good numbers in the bigs...in every category except goals.
- Ogilthorpe2

He played 33 games.... he hasn’t played half and NHL season. I’m not bashing him just having some perspective.

Like a pilot who’s really good at take-offs and flying, but can’t figure out how to land without crashing.
- scottak

More like a pilot who does all the little things that make for a safe and uneventful flight, but doesn’t grease the landing...and as any pilot will tell you, consistently safe flights are a product of skill and experience, whereas the ultra-smooth landing is at least 50% luck.

Yep, believing that Sikura is one of the best 13 forwards in the Hawks system is blind love. This was the classic JJ maneuver - accuse anyone who says a positive thing about a whipping boy of his of "putting him in the Hall of Fame". But, the book is in on Sikura - he's played 440 minutes without a goal; he'll suck forever.
- mohel

No the problem is calling him an established NHLer based on 33 games where he played about 11 mins a night... he’s shown some nice flashes. No one is saying he sucks bc he hasn’t scored a goal yet. You can’t handle the fact someone disagrees with your opinion. He could very well make the team out of camp but he isn’t a lock.

I am not sold on Sikura .lot of players but up decent numbers in College and the A then don't translate to the Biggs .I see him as fringe NHL'er at best .Hope I am wrong ,but I think he has been passed by on the depth chart ..
- oldduffman

He put up way more than decent numbers in college. Keep in mind though most of his goals were on the PP and not sure how much time he saw of that in Chicago

No the problem is calling him an established NHLer based on 33 games where he played about 11 mins a night... he’s shown some nice flashes. No one is saying he sucks bc he hasn’t scored a goal yet. You can’t handle the fact someone disagrees with your opinion. He could very well make the team out of camp but he isn’t a lock.
- bhawks2241

No one is calling him an established NHL players. What people are saying is they like what they have seen from and he has a chance to develop into a useful NHL player.

He is a 6th round pick. He puts up 35-40 points, and i think he has to skills to do that,and its a home run for the scouting department.

Look at his career arc at every level. He tends to struggle initially but then progresses fairly consistently afterward.

Course, the NHL is a different animal and some guys can find their niche and some can't. If he doesn't, it won't be from lack of effort. Unlike a couple of guys in the system where consistent effort, and defensive ability, are certainly question marks.

He put up way more than decent numbers in college. Keep in mind though most of his goals were on the PP and not sure how much time he saw of that in Chicago
- just69sayin

Last year was Sikura’s first full pro season and all things considered he performed very well. There’s nothing wrong with needing some AHL time and Sikura got that extra time to develop. I think he’ll continue his positive progression and be a solid NHL contributor this season.

Last year was Sikura’s first full pro season and all things considered he performed very well. There’s nothing wrong with needing some AHL time and Sikura got that extra time to develop. I think he’ll continue his positive progression and be a solid NHL contributor this season.
- DarthKane

TBH, Sikura is pretty much the perfect option to play with Dinky and Strome.

Meaning his skill set. Those two need someone who has a clue defensively. That isn't Perlini or Nylander by accounts I have seen.

No the problem is calling him an established NHLer based on 33 games where he played about 11 mins a night... he’s shown some nice flashes. No one is saying he sucks bc he hasn’t scored a goal yet. You can’t handle the fact someone disagrees with your opinion. He could very well make the team out of camp but he isn’t a lock.
- bhawks2241

There's plenty here who think he's no good simply because of the goal number. You think he showed flashes, I thought he showed a consistently responsible 200 foot game. I'm good with the difference of opinion on that. It's the condescending "blind love" garbage that shows discomfort with a different opinion. It must be blind love, because how could someone disagree with you without being blind, eh?

I am not sold on Sikura .lot of players but up decent numbers in College and the A then don't translate to the Biggs .I see him as fringe NHL'er at best .Hope I am wrong ,but I think he has been passed by on the depth chart ..
- oldduffman

And a lot of guys suck at the A level and continue to suck.

No one is calling him an established NHL players. What people are saying is they like what they have seen from and he has a chance to develop into a useful NHL player.

He is a 6th round pick. He puts up 35-40 points, and i think he has to skills to do that,and its a home run for the scouting department.

Look at his career arc at every level. He tends to struggle initially but then progresses fairly consistently afterward.

Course, the NHL is a different animal and some guys can find their niche and some can't. If he doesn't, it won't be from lack of effort. Unlike a couple of guys in the system where consistent effort, and defensive ability, are certainly question marks.
- Elbows15

Disagree on the first part... several have said he’s established himself at the NHL level. I agree he has some nice potential. If he’s a solid 2 way guy and puts up 35-40 pts that’s a huge win for the hawks scouting department. He gives solid effort for the most part. He also disappeared and made mistakes like at young rookie. I’m not sure I see a spot for him unless it’s on the 3rd line. He isn’t a 4th line guy and not sure he’s a top 6 on a team that has playoff aspirations.

There's plenty here who think he's no good simply because of the goal number. You think he showed flashes, I thought he showed a consistently responsible 200 foot game. I'm good with the difference of opinion on that. It's the condescending "blind love" garbage that shows discomfort with a different opinion. It must be blind love, because how could someone disagree with you without being blind, eh?
- mohel

The blind love was in response to others claiming he’s established himself as an NHLer and not being able to handle posters who criticize. That’s blind love lol. Those same posters are condescending when anyone disagrees. It’s also the same as you posting the JJ narrative stuff... don’t need to be reminded of that crap.

Sikura should’ve potted 4-5 goals easily last year. He missed some point blank empty nets and hit a few posts. Those will come.

I’m not ready to call him an established NHL guy. I like him as a player and think he has some good upside. Although not sure where he fits besides 3rd line. Someone just mentioned him on a line with Dcat and Strome... eh. That line needs a Perlini type (minus the floating and seemingly lack of interest or hockey IQ). I’d love Shaw on that line if he can stay healthy.

Saad Dach Sikura would be an interesting line is Dach and Sikura both stick.

The blind love was in response to others claiming he’s established himself as an NHLer and not being able to handle posters who criticize. That’s blind love lol. Those same posters are condescending when anyone disagrees. It’s also the same as you posting the JJ narrative stuff... don’t need to be reminded of that crap.

Sikura should’ve potted 4-5 goals easily last year. He missed some point blank empty nets and hit a few posts. Those will come.

I’m not ready to call him an established NHL guy. I like him as a player and think he has some good upside. Although not sure where he fits besides 3rd line. Someone just mentioned him on a line with Dcat and Strome... eh. That line needs a Perlini type (minus the floating and seemingly lack of interest or hockey IQ). I’d love Shaw on that line if he can stay healthy.

Saad Dach Sikura would be an interesting line is Dach and Sikura both stick.
- bhawks2241

So, not a Perlini type.

The blind love was in response to others claiming he’s established himself as an NHLer and not being able to handle posters who criticize. That’s blind love lol. Those same posters are condescending when anyone disagrees. It’s also the same as you posting the JJ narrative stuff... don’t need to be reminded of that crap.

Sikura should’ve potted 4-5 goals easily last year. He missed some point blank empty nets and hit a few posts. Those will come.

I’m not ready to call him an established NHL guy. I like him as a player and think he has some good upside. Although not sure where he fits besides 3rd line. Someone just mentioned him on a line with Dcat and Strome... eh. That line needs a Perlini type (minus the floating and seemingly lack of interest or hockey IQ). I’d love Shaw on that line if he can stay healthy.

Saad Dach Sikura would be an interesting line is Dach and Sikura both stick.
- bhawks2241

LOL
In other words, a Perlini type who plays more like Sikura.

LOL
In other words, a Perlini type who plays more like Sikura.
- Ogilthorpe2

Can we put Sikuras head on Perlinis body?

The blind love was in response to others claiming he’s established himself as an NHLer and not being able to handle posters who criticize. That’s blind love lol. Those same posters are condescending when anyone disagrees. It’s also the same as you posting the JJ narrative stuff... don’t need to be reminded of that crap.

Sikura should’ve potted 4-5 goals easily last year. He missed some point blank empty nets and hit a few posts. Those will come.

I’m not ready to call him an established NHL guy. I like him as a player and think he has some good upside. Although not sure where he fits besides 3rd line. Someone just mentioned him on a line with Dcat and Strome... eh. That line needs a Perlini type (minus the floating and seemingly lack of interest or hockey IQ). I’d love Shaw on that line if he can stay healthy.

Saad Dach Sikura would be an interesting line is Dach and Sikura both stick.
- bhawks2241

I like the idea of a Saad-Dach-Sikura line.

Kubalik - Toews - Kane
DeBrincat - Strome - Shaw
Saad - Dach - Sikura
Smith - Kampf - Cagguila

Perlini gets the boot.

Next summer’s FA goalies, by current CAP hit:

Holtby
CC
Lehner
Anderson
Howard
Murray
Markstrom
Greiss
Talbot
Halak
Khudobin
- scottak

My question is how many of them do you want to have play 60 regular season and 16 playoff games for you and what will it cost? IDK.