buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Yeah that would be great. All smart TVs have 4K YouTube and other apps. Time to step up! I have 4K for Netflix and the picture is pretty amazing. I have watched a soccer game in 4K. The picture was great
The NHL could really benefit from 4K. The people that still have issues seeing the puck move on the tv. Could see it a lot better and more clearly. - Sabretooth9
HD was supposed to cure that. So was 3D.
The "can't follow the puck" people are always going to have that problem.
That said, the US as a whole is way behind the rest of the world in broadcasting Sports in 4K, and I am not sure why. |
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Nacho Bar, and free brown liquor? - IonSabres
Fine. There are three reasons that Jeff Bezos was in Goodell's suite during the Super Bowl last February. |
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jcragcrumple
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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HD was supposed to cure that. So was 3D.
The "can't follow the puck" people are always going to have that problem.
That said, the US as a whole is way behind the rest of the world in broadcasting Sports in 4K, and I am not sure why. - buffalofan19
Why don't they experiment with different puck colors? I know black on white offers the highest contrast, but maybe florescent green or pink would show better? |
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HD was supposed to cure that. So was 3D.
The "can't follow the puck" people are always going to have that problem.
That said, the US as a whole is way behind the rest of the world in broadcasting Sports in 4K, and I am not sure why. - buffalofan19
With 4K you should have no problems at all with the puck. When I watched a 4K soccer game. It was incredible.
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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Why don't they experiment with different puck colors? I know black on white offers the highest contrast, but maybe florescent green or pink would show better? - jcragcrumple
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Why don't they experiment with different puck colors? I know black on white offers the highest contrast, but maybe florescent green or pink would show better? - jcragcrumple
The fact of the matter is that the puck is smallest "item" of the four major sports and soccer, and it generally moves the fastest. It will always be the hardest to follow, especially on television. Sure, you probably can make some enhancements to mitigate it, but the problem will always exist.
Hockey also has another problem, and that is it seems to have the most vocal "purists" of any sport. Most changes are met with intense scrutiny. See the Fox "Super Puck". |
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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The fact of the matter is that the puck is smallest "item" of the four major sports and soccer, and it generally moves the fastest. It will always be the hardest to follow, especially on television. Sure, you probably can make some enhancements to mitigate it, but the problem will always exist.
Hockey also has another problem, and that is it seems to have the most vocal "purists" of any sport. Most changes are met with intense scrutiny. See the Fox "Super Puck". - buffalofan19
Just need to move your chair closer.
Within 6 feet it is like Section 107 Row G
At 10 feet, equivalent of Section 205 Row A |
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Why don't they experiment with different puck colors? I know black on white offers the highest contrast, but maybe florescent green or pink would show better? - jcragcrumple
Kinda like the Tour De France
Just have a yellow FLAG raised on the back of the puck carrier. |
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jcragcrumple
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Craig Rivet “Victor Hedman was bad for the first 5 years”
Gtfo and get off the radio |
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hehateme
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Joined: 04.11.2017
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Craig Rivet “Victor Hedman was bad for the first 5 years”
Gtfo and get off the radio - sbroads24
Rivet was bad for his 3 years in Buffalo, Only player who would get a "Gordie Howe hatty" in reverse. |
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Rivet was bad for his 3 years in Buffalo, Only player who would get a "Gordie Howe hatty" in reverse. - hehateme
Can’t stand listening to Craig rivet..... his takes are bad. |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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This right here should be posted after every 'Trade Risto' comment. Our forwards (besides the hated Girgs and Larsson) play almost no defense. When the D does get the puck the forwards are almost to the other teams blue line expecting a 120' pass. Everyone clamors about Dahlin being our best dman last season need to pump the brakes a bit. He did have 1 more point than Risto playing 4 more games than him, but he had 55 less blocked shots, 138 less hits, and 35 more giveaways. This is all while getting 59% Ozone starts compared to Risto's 46% Ozone starts. Sure he is going to be special, but Risto is a good defenseman too. It's obvious most here never played hockey, and too many rely on analytics to tell them if a player is good or not, but some should take a class or something to teach them about positioning and responsibilities on the ice because many here are absolutely clueless. - adambuffalo
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hehateme
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Joined: 04.11.2017
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This right here should be posted after every 'Trade Risto' comment. Our forwards (besides the hated Girgs and Larsson) play almost no defense. When the D does get the puck the forwards are almost to the other teams blue line expecting a 120' pass. Everyone clamors about Dahlin being our best dman last season need to pump the brakes a bit. He did have 1 more point than Risto playing 4 more games than him, but he had 55 less blocked shots, 138 less hits, and 35 more giveaways. This is all while getting 59% Ozone starts compared to Risto's 46% Ozone starts. Sure he is going to be special, but Risto is a good defenseman too. It's obvious most here never played hockey, and too many rely on analytics to tell them if a player is good or not, but some should take a class or something to teach them about positioning and responsibilities on the ice because many here are absolutely clueless. - adambuffalo
I am a Risto fan, I really am, but he is not that good. He plays like a beast every 5th or so game, then plays like an average to below average Dman for the rest of the games. IMO Risto is who he is, 40-50 (nothing to sneeze at) point D-man that has flashes of brilliance but then will make you want to pull your hair out all in the same game. If you keep him fine, if you trade him for a scoring pieces of comp value, fine.. I just think that some Sabres fans over value Risto a bit... and I could care less about Analytics, I use the old fashioned Eye test... |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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I am a Risto fan, I really am, but he is not that good. He plays like a beast every 5th or so game, then plays like an average to below average Dman for the rest of the games. IMO Risto is who he is, 40-50 (nothing to sneeze at) point D-man that has flashes of brilliance but then will make you want to pull your hair out all in the same game. If you keep him fine, if you trade him for a scoring pieces of comp value, fine.. I just think that some Sabres fans over value Risto a bit... and I could care less about Analytics, I use the old fashioned Eye test... - hehateme
I'm a risto defender.
He had a tough year, especially the second half
Gonna regret trading him though |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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*broads - Boss34
People who don’t understand the numbers and what they tell you make arguments like this.
And I’m not trying to be a d1ck, but the analysis accounts for all of it.
All of our D men play with those forwards, our bad coaches, bad goalies etc. |
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Der Kaiser
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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Craig Rivet “Victor Hedman was bad for the first 5 years”
Gtfo and get off the radio - sbroads24
he had some tough seasons in there but to say he was bad for 5 years is just flat out wrong |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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I'm a risto defender.
He had a tough year, especially the second half
Gonna regret trading him though - Boss34
I'm pretty harsh on Risto, I do admit it.
From a combination of watching games as well as then checking his Advanced Stats.
What I don't like about him is:
-he has proven under 3 coaches that he can't effectively play top 2 minutes, I'm willing to give Krueger another kick at the can with him, just not expecting major change...however, if Krueger can bring out his best and it is a major improvement ... hurray!
-he is better suited in a 3rd pairing, as he is really a tweet between 2nd and 3rd pairing
-he is relatively expensive for that role at $5.4m
-he doesn't play tough on a consistent basis, and that trait of being tough is one of the first cited by his defenders...but he brings it very selectively
-he is prone to lunk-head plays frequently, most in his d-zone
-his transition game is horrible, being a below average passer, especially the first pass out..it is very often in the skates of his teammates or behind them resulting in a failed transition attempt
- he constantly throws the puck up the wall for his winger, even though that path is blocked by 2 opponents...does he even check to see?
- he is not good defensively, constantly chasing and losing his man all over the ice. Maybe the fourth system will work wonders for him.
He does score roughly 50% of his points on the 1st PP...which it looks like he is in serious jeopardy of losing that time with the acquisition of Montour and now Miller.
I'm not a fan of evaluating Dmen based in their points scored...it feels inadequate, and I do place a higher value on defensive accumen. Points are nice no doubt, but they are one measure and a secondary measure for Dman...several notches above +/- ...and about that +/-!
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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People who don’t understand the numbers and what they tell you make arguments like this.
And I’m not trying to be a d1ck, but the analysis accounts for all of it.
All of our D men play with those forwards, our bad coaches, bad goalies etc. - sbroads24
Seriously, I respect the time you put in on the statistic end, which I do not.
But, you discard physical play.
If you played hockey at any significant level, you would understand that end. It's not black and white, even if it looks that way on a sheet of paper. There are intangibles that cant be measured, risto fits that profile.
Also, which may not mean anything to you, but risto has been one of the most exciting/ live players for years here.
He gives you something to watch and cheer for.
Also bad plays to boo |
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adambuffalo
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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I'm pretty harsh on Risto, I do admit it.
From a combination of watching games as well as then checking his Advanced Stats.
What I don't like about him is:
-he has proven under 3 coaches that he can't effectively play top 2 minutes, I'm willing to give Krueger another kick at the can with him, just not expecting major change...however, if Krueger can bring out his best and it is a major improvement ... hurray!
-he is better suited in a 3rd pairing, as he is really a tweet between 2nd and 3rd pairing
-he is relatively expensive for that role at $5.4m
-he doesn't play tough on a consistent basis, and that trait of being tough is one of the first cited by his defenders...but he brings it very selectively
-he is prone to lunk-head plays frequently, most in his d-zone
-his transition game is horrible, being a below average passer, especially the first pass out..it is very often in the skates of his teammates or behind them resulting in a failed transition attempt
- he constantly throws the puck up the wall for his winger, even though that path is blocked by 2 opponents...does he even check to see?
- he is not good defensively, constantly chasing and losing his man all over the ice. Maybe the fourth system will work wonders for him.
He does score roughly 50% of his points on the 1st PP...which it looks like he is in serious jeopardy of losing that time with the acquisition of Montour and now Miller.
I'm not a fan of evaluating Dmen based in their points scored...it feels inadequate, and I do place a higher value on defensive accumen. Points are nice no doubt, but they are one measure and a secondary measure for Dman...several notches above +/- ...and about that +/-! - IonSabres
Most of this is due to not playing with good players and/or playing in a horrible system. Playing with very little support in your own zone makes it look like he may be losing and chasing his man, but when he's forced to cover multiple positions/ players due to the lack of support, it makes him look to like the one responsible. The system of having everyone skate away from the puck once it's retrieved, with no outlet option or safe play available make it look like Risto is at fault, when in reality the system is set up for failure. Could he be more physical more often? Definitely, however knowing he is going to be playing 25+ minutes a night maybe he chooses to save his energy. Could benefit a lot by keeping him in the 20-22 minute range. Calling him a 3rd pairing dman is ludicrous. And for all the love Dahlin has gotten, he is not good defensively yet and although he did score one more point than Risto, playing in four extra games mind you, he scored more on the PP than Risto, which apparently is a knock on Risto for scoring on the PP. |
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dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Craig Rivet “Victor Hedman was bad for the first 5 years”
Gtfo and get off the radio - sbroads24
He wasn’t very good his 1st 3ish yrs.
He turned the corner mid point of his 4th yr.
I remember the bust word being used his 1st few years. |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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I'm pretty harsh on Risto, I do admit it.
From a combination of watching games as well as then checking his Advanced Stats.
What I don't like about him is:
-he has proven under 3 coaches that he can't effectively play top 2 minutes, I'm willing to give Krueger another kick at the can with him, just not expecting major change...however, if Krueger can bring out his best and it is a major improvement ... hurray!
-he is better suited in a 3rd pairing, as he is really a tweet between 2nd and 3rd pairing
-he is relatively expensive for that role at $5.4m
-he doesn't play tough on a consistent basis, and that trait of being tough is one of the first cited by his defenders...but he brings it very selectively
-he is prone to lunk-head plays frequently, most in his d-zone
-his transition game is horrible, being a below average passer, especially the first pass out..it is very often in the skates of his teammates or behind them resulting in a failed transition attempt
- he constantly throws the puck up the wall for his winger, even though that path is blocked by 2 opponents...does he even check to see?
- he is not good defensively, constantly chasing and losing his man all over the ice. Maybe the fourth system will work wonders for him.
He does score roughly 50% of his points on the 1st PP...which it looks like he is in serious jeopardy of losing that time with the acquisition of Montour and now Miller.
I'm not a fan of evaluating Dmen based in their points scored...it feels inadequate, and I do place a higher value on defensive accumen. Points are nice no doubt, but they are one measure and a secondary measure for Dman...several notches above +/- ...and about that +/-! - IonSabres
Good post ion.
Risto is an all time top #10 favorite for me.
I'm probably a bit if a homer.
The coaches haven't exactly been good: in his defense.
The 2 years under housley were his worst and most recent in our memories.
I'm with homie, keep him and build around him.
I'm not sure if his value can really drop to much more?
People forget how hard it is to find real nhl players.
We have to tank to get them most of the time.
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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People who don’t understand the numbers and what they tell you make arguments like this.
And I’m not trying to be a d1ck, but the analysis accounts for all of it.
All of our D men play with those forwards, our bad coaches, bad goalies etc. - sbroads24
And none of them play as many minutes against top competition |
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TC4145
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Joined: 03.03.2019
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I wanted Kyrou + or Parayko
As much of an ROR fan as i was (am),
i did understand trading him
Just wanted a legit return
We did not get one - jdfitz77
You guys ALL suck at your assessments.
Which one of you jack wagons has a job, let alone a job assessing NHL talent.
Every single one of you is tiresome, at best. |
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