No, it’s not stupid

It’s not like Jake Voracek is physically unable to shoot more. It’s not like shooting the puck is this difficult thing to do. It doesn’t matter how old Jake is. Learning a new coaching system can be tough. Playing on the off wing can be tough. Shooting the puck more is about as basic as it gets.

Jake Voracek is a Right Winger, who shoots left and has all the talent in the world. One timers should be second nature to him. He should be a freakin 30 goal scorer but instead he has a disappointing 20 goals per season.

Jake is a very frustrating player to watch.
- SuperSchennBros

He is not a shooter and will never be a shooter, he will always be a pass first guy and there is no changing that. These guys process the game incredibly fast and shooting is not the first thing coming to Jake's mind.

always get bruce hoffort
- daryl stanley

For the biggest events, they get Rob Zepp (still in great shape, still in his 30s) or Boosh when one is available. Sometimes Litts. AHL Hall of Famer Freddy Cassivi, who never played for the Flyers or Phantoms but played for the (post Flyers affiliation) Hershey Bears plays for Flyers Alumni as his schedule allows. Eric Semborski has done it a time or two. Otherwise, Matt Tendler is the goalie .

yes and no, Jake has had great success and he has done certain things to get that success. His natural response to game situations will not be easy to change.
- wcorvette

Exactly, it's all natural, he's not just gonna start shooting.

For the biggest events, they get Rob Zepp (still in great shape, still in his 30s) or Boosh when one is available. Sometimes Litts. AHL Hall of Famer Freddy Cassivi, who never played for the Flyers or Phantoms but played for the (post Flyers affiliation) Hershey Bears plays for Flyers Alumni as his schedule allows. Eric Semborski has done it a time or two. Otherwise, Matt Tendler is the goalie .
- bmeltzer

luv matt tendler. great goalie coach

luv matt tendler. great goalie coach
- daryl stanley

He is. Good guy, too.

It is called taking a chance on a guy that was selected 3rd overall that needs a fresh start, what is wrong with that. Something happened in Edmonton and the relationship has soured it happens sometimes. Currently most here believe Hagg is the 7th defenseman. So a 7th defenseman and maybe a pick for a third overall pick is not that much of a stretch to me.
- Daceroni

Thank you for explaining what it is.

What happened in Edmonton is on the player in my opinion. I would not trade Haag and a pick for Puljujarvi. That he was the 3rd overall pick at this point of his career is meaningless. I don't think he is going to amount to anything and I'd rather keep Haag.

Thank you for explaining what it is.

What happened in Edmonton is on the player in my opinion. I would not trade Haag and a pick for Puljujarvi. That he was the 3rd overall pick at this point of his career is meaningless. I don't think he is going to amount to anything and I'd rather keep Haag.
- MJL

They rushed him into the NHL and bounced him up and down the lineup, he should have been back over seas or full time AHL. While he is not free of blame or even close to that Edmonton did a horrible job handling him.

They rushed him into the NHL and bounced him up and down the lineup, he should have been back over seas or full time AHL. While he is not free of blame or even close to that Edmonton did a horrible job handling him.
- ClaudeFather

The team handled him poorly.

Puljujarvi is a bust.

Both statements can be true.

The team handled him poorly.

Puljujarvi is a bust.

Both statements can be true.
- Tomahawk

Agreed, like i said, he is not blame free. Do you think it is past the point of no return for him? I see him in the KHL in two years.

He is. Good guy, too.
- bmeltzer

parents I believe had a hockey store in the 80's on bustleton ave.

ok chuckie you're up go get us Risto

Ghost + for Risto

ok chuckie you're up go get us Risto

Ghost + for Risto
- 2Real

I'd rather try Braun, picks, prospects.

I'd rather try Braun, picks, prospects.
- ClaudeFather

Ghost + Braun for Risto

Ghost + Braun for Risto
- 2Real

Sanheim to PP1

That’s been his nickname for a while; u never heard that?
- daryl stanley

I never have!

Thank you for explaining what it is.

What happened in Edmonton is on the player in my opinion. I would not trade Haag and a pick for Puljujarvi. That he was the 3rd overall pick at this point of his career is meaningless. I don't think he is going to amount to anything and I'd rather keep Haag.
- MJL

I would depending on the pick. Its a Pascal's wager as far as I am concerned.

He is not a shooter and will never be a shooter, he will always be a pass first guy and there is no changing that. These guys process the game incredibly fast and shooting is not the first thing coming to Jake's mind.
- ClaudeFather

Okay, two days in a row, all I’m reading are excuses for certain players. Yesterday was Shayne Gostisbehere, today is Jake Voracek.

In the case of Ghost, he had a great rookie season. Good! He follows up by having a down season. Bad! Ghost comes back with a career year. Good! Last season he follows up with another down year. Bad! Apparently this season is huge for Ghost because two good seasons outweigh two bad, when in reality, Ghost should be improving one season after the other. What if Ghost is great this season and follows up with a bad season the year after?

There is no excuse to not improve!

In the case of Jake Voracek, you can have a pass first mentality and still score goals. It’s ridiculous to believe other wise. If anything, being a left handed shot on the right wing makes it easier to shoot, then to pass.

Okay, two days in a row, all I’m reading are excuses for certain players. Yesterday was Shayne Gostisbehere, today is Jake Voracek.

In the case of Ghost, he had a great rookie season. Good! He follows up by having a down season. Bad! Ghost comes back with a career year. Good! Last season he follows up with another down year. Bad! Apparently this season is huge for Ghost because two good seasons out weigh two bad, when in reality, Ghost should be improving one season after the other. What if Ghost is great this season and follows up with a bad season after?

There is no excuse to not improve!

In the case of Jake Voracek, you can have a pass first mentality and still score goals. It’s ridiculous to believe other wise. If anything, being a left handed shot on the right wing makes it easier to shoot, then to pass.
- SuperSchennBros

Not sure what Ghost has to do with what I'm talking about. Go look at Feanors post, Jakes PP production is very good, he is a 20 goal guy, please face the facts. You should just go to games and yell SHOOOT while he's on the powerplay, maybe that will help.

Giroux has got to be the most under under-appreciated athlete in Philly
- Dkos

To non hockey fans, yes. To Flyers' fans, not even close.

Not sure what Ghost has to do with what I'm talking about. Go look at Feanors post, Jakes PP production is very good, he is a 20 goal guy, please face the facts. You should just go to games and yell SHOOOT while he's on the powerplay, maybe that will help.
- ClaudeFather

Dude, I could care less about what Bill says or Fearnor says. I’m a grown man with my own thoughts and opinions. We’re not talking about power play production. We’re talking about overall production.

If you actually believe that it’s not in Jake’s DNA to shoot or his mind mentally blocks him from shooting, you’re making up ridiculous excuses for the player.

Like, why is it so much easier for a much younger Travis Konecny to score on the right side with a right handed shot? It should be much harder for Konecny to score. Konecny lesser ice time and lesser offensive situations. Konecny has lesser experience. Konecny wouldn’t be able to release the puck on the right side as quick as a player with a left handed shot coming down the right wing.

Like, it’s not that difficult to understand that Voracek has to shoot more. In fact, it’s not even a lot to ask for.

He is not a shooter and will never be a shooter, he will always be a pass first guy and there is no changing that. These guys process the game incredibly fast and shooting is not the first thing coming to Jake's mind.
- ClaudeFather

While he will never be a shoot first type of guy, I think it's reasonable to think/hope that the coaching staff may ask him to shoot more. Especially on the PP. It would definitely help open lanes.

While he will never be a shoot first type of guy, I think it's reasonable to think/hope that the coaching staff may ask him to shoot more. Especially on the PP. It would definitely help open lanes.
- BenderRodriguez

You really don't think the staff has suggested to him to shoot more?

While he will never be a shoot first type of guy, I think it's reasonable to think/hope that the coaching staff may ask him to shoot more. Especially on the PP. It would definitely help open lanes.
- BenderRodriguez

And make himself even more of an overall offensive threat.

Dude, I could care less about what Bill says or Fearnor says. I’m a grown man with my own thoughts and opinions. We’re not talking about power play production. We’re talking about overall production.

If you actually believe that it’s not in Jake’s DNA to shoot or his mind mentally blocks him from shooting, you’re making up ridiculous excuses for the player.

Like, why is it so much easier for a much younger Travis Konecny to score on the right side with a right handed shot? It should be much harder for Konecny to score. Konecny lesser ice time and lesser offensive situations. Konecny has lesser experience. Konecny wouldn’t be able to release the puck on the right side as quick as a player with a left handed shot coming down the right wing.

Like, it’s not that difficult to understand that Voracek has to shoot more. In fact, it’s not even a lot to ask for.
- SuperSchennBros

If you can't see that TK is much more of a shoot first guy when compared to Jake idk what to tell you, TK also has a much better shot. He's 21 with two 20 goal campaigns under his belt.

Love the love for Giroux by the few...G, go win the Cup! (Preferably soon and in orange and black.)

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