Yeah it's the summer.

I mean lots of guys were calling them a bubble team last summer before Markstrom's breakout season or EP's huge year as a rookie.

Wasn't it just a couple of years ago the team won 4 of their first 5 games or something and "suck it haters" became the catch phrase?
- golfingsince

That’s my thinking. The only reason JB has a job is his last few drafts produced BB and EP. It’s my belief that JB and crew had no idea of what they actually had in both until they actually played an NHL game. Especially BB. I think they were as surprised as we were at the skill level displayed.

That speaks volumes on their vision for this team in my books.

i've wanted that for the last 7 tdl's.

...but if we're sellers, that means the season didn't go well?

you're not a paranoid hater are you?
- RealityChecker

Or the Canucks got a new GM.

i've wanted that for the last 7 tdl's.

...but if we're sellers, that means the season didn't go well?

you're not a paranoid hater are you?
- RealityChecker

St Louis were sellers & it worked out. Trading at any time to unload is my motto. Idc about PO hunt or not so always trade to get better if it helps later.

That's fine, I don't think I can stomach another "we choked" interview.
- golfingsince

Would be a refreshing change to JB’s humming and hawing.

Yeah he could do some real damage to the future just trying to make the playoffs in a marketing year.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Like the fear some had earlier this summer hoping he wouldn't speed up the process of re-building by trading future assets for 'now' players.

That’s my thinking. The only reason JB has a job is his last few drafts produced BB and EP. It’s my belief that JB and crew had no idea of what they actually had in both until they actually played an NHL game. Especially BB. I think they were as surprised as we were at the skill level displayed.

That speaks volumes on their vision for this team in my books.
- bloatedmosquito

That could be said of any GM not getting a no-brainer pick in a draft. Give a GM credit for making a pick for good or ill.

Like the fear some had earlier this summer hoping he wouldn't speed up the process of re-building by trading future assets for 'now' players.
- Marwood

That was unfounded pessimism was it not?

St Louis were sellers & it worked out. Trading at any time to unload is my motto. Idc about PO hunt or not so always trade to get better if it helps later.
- Nighthawk

you might not care about the PO hunt, but benning and the prospect of unemployment surely does.

That was unfounded pessimism was it not?
- Nighthawk

No, he traded a 1st for a 2nd line player while the team should still be re-building, in my hater, not a real fan opinion.
Also, Myers is a bottom pairing d-man.

you might not care about the PO hunt, but benning and the prospect of unemployment surely does.
- RealityChecker

Oh i believe it’s a PO push & i care. Its presumptuous to say JB will do a rash move to save his hide. To date JB has played his cards to close to his vest on what plans or moves he wants to make. I don’t see doing otherwise unless stating the obvious.

Oh i believe it’s a PO push & i care. Its presumptuous to say JB will do a rash move to say his hide. To date JB has played his cards to close to his vest on what plans or moves he wants to make. I don’t see doing otherwise unless stating the obvious.
- Nighthawk

so what do you think the odds are of the team being sellers?

so what do you think the odds are of the team being sellers?
- RealityChecker

20/80 unless JB gets approached for say Sutter or Stecher or Sven.

so what do you think the odds are of the team being sellers?
- RealityChecker

This is the key. Continued roster development. (frank) the regular season record. Some arbitrary anniversary shouldn’t dictate a change in philosophy.

If JB continues to work the roster during the season for long term success then I’ll give him credit. If he just goes for a playoff spot at future’s expense then this whole “change is coming” schtick was an undeniable lie.

This is the key. Continued roster development. (frank) the regular season record. Some arbitrary anniversary shouldn’t dictate a change in philosophy.

If JB continues to work the roster during the season for long term success then I’ll give him credit. If he just goes for a playoff spot at future’s expense then this whole “change is coming” schtick was an undeniable lie.
- bloatedmosquito

i agree with this.

Rock my world...

Bobby Orr for Pres

i agree with this.
- RealityChecker

As do I

This is the key. Continued roster development. (frank) the regular season record. Some arbitrary anniversary shouldn’t dictate a change in philosophy.

If JB continues to work the roster during the season for long term success then I’ll give him credit. If he just goes for a playoff spot at future’s expense then this whole “change is coming” schtick was an undeniable lie.
- bloatedmosquito

As will I, I just don't believe he really has that ideology. I wonder out of curiosity how people would feel about his drafting had EP not had such a big season. I mean it's certainly his strength but is it really 2nd level?

20/80 unless JB gets approached for say Sutter or Stecher or Sven.
- Nighthawk

What odds do you give them of being buyers?

As will I, I just don't believe he really has that ideology. I wonder out of curiosity how people would feel about his drafting had EP not had such a big season. I mean it's certainly his strength but is it really 2nd level?
- golfingsince

I think he might be better than some at drafting but I don't think he's any kind of drafting guru. Keep in mind that I am a miserable whiner.

No, he traded a 1st for a 2nd line player while the team should still be re-building, in my hater, not a real fan opinion.
Also, Myers is a bottom pairing d-man.
- Marwood

I'm still sad they didn't have a 3rd round pick.

I'm still sad they didn't have a 3rd round pick.
- golfingsince

I didn't want to bring that up, it affected a lot of people.

Would you trade Madden and Podkolzin for Miller (has they not already acquired him)?

That was unfounded pessimism was it not?
- Nighthawk

I find the optimism just as unfounded.

I find the optimism just as unfounded.
- A_SteamingLombardi

What odds do you give them of being buyers?
- golfingsince

Again only if it’s long term help. I don’t see it if for picks. 10/90