If we're going to go the net effect route than we also have to include the dead cap space for 20/21 to be able to fit in Braun. I'm surer other teams would've done it but every team is in a different spot. The question is should the Flyers have done it. I come out on the no side of the ledger.
- MJL

thanks for your opinion.

How many degrees of separation are you allowed?
- MJL

Five. Any more would be ridiculous

Five. Any more would be ridiculous
- EducatedOpinion

That's what I was thinking.

Chuckie just loves to overpay
https://www.crossingbroad...ers-if-they-overpaid.html
What do you got Bill

Flyers are interested in Hoffman? Who is he worth in trade and do we want his baggage?
- bmoreflyer

Ghost

I have to say that I absolutely love this tiger mask!

https://broadstreetbuzz.c...el-ersson-sweet-new-mask/

Chuckie just loves to overpay
https://www.crossingbroad...ers-if-they-overpaid.html
What do you got Bill
- 2Real

I mean that's basically how free agency works. We weren't his first choice but we paid him enough to overlook it. Not gonna win him any fans tho, I'll give you that.

I mean that's basically how free agency works. We weren't his first choice but we paid him enough to overlook it. Not gonna win him any fans tho, I'll give you that.
- hereticpride

I have two thoughts on that. Unsubstantiated hearsay. If Hayes didn't really want to sign with the Flyers, he would've taken their offer and used it in free agency as a bargaining tool with other teams before accepting the Flyers offer. Secondly, if Seravalli told me the sun was coming up tomorrow, I wouldn't believe him.

Chuckie just loves to overpay
https://www.crossingbroad...ers-if-they-overpaid.html
What do you got Bill
- 2Real

I consider the source.

I have two thoughts on that. Unsubstantiated hearsay. If Hayes didn't really want to sign with the Flyers, he would've taken their offer and used it in free agency as a bargaining tool with other teams before accepting the Flyers offer. Secondly, if Seravalli told me the sun was coming up tomorrow, I wouldn't believe him.
- MJL

This is an excellent post.

Chuckie just loves to overpay
https://www.crossingbroad...ers-if-they-overpaid.html
What do you got Bill
- 2Real

You just love to hate. I Usually read past it but man it’s getting tiresome lol and redundant. Who hurt you?

I have two thoughts on that. Unsubstantiated hearsay. If Hayes didn't really want to sign with the Flyers, he would've taken their offer and used it in free agency as a bargaining tool with other teams before accepting the Flyers offer. Secondly, if Seravalli told me the sun was coming up tomorrow, I wouldn't believe him.
- MJL

Chuckie just loves to overpay
https://www.crossingbroad...ers-if-they-overpaid.html
What do you got Bill
- 2Real

Still waiting for confirmation that the Flyers have hired Quennville.

Still waiting for confirmation that the Flyers have hired Quennville.
- jmatchett383

It will happen right after they trade for Byfuglien

Chuckie just loves to overpay
https://www.crossingbroad...ers-if-they-overpaid.html
What do you got Bill
- 2Real

Seravelli? Really?


Nexxxxt!

Seravelli? Really?


Nexxxxt!
- MBFlyerfan

“...we expected he’d provide some of the hard-hitting insight that made him a favorite in the local market...”

😂😂

Seravalli isn't fit to float in Bob McKenzie's toilet bowl.

So if they include a player that they picked with one of those drat picks down the road, that becomes part of the trade also? Seems as though it all depends on what narrative you want to float.
- MJL

It doesn't necessarily become part of the trade no. People in the future would look at the totality of all deals just as they do now, i.e. well they traded that 2020 4th rounder who became this 3 years down the road, etc.) however that's years after the fact. And who knows if the original team who had that pick would have even drafted it the same. This happened within a week of each other and i think definitely related. im not sure what narrative you think Im trying to float, always has to be something when you dont agree, just say you dont agree, thats fine. i disagree with you a lot, whats the problem with that. these are all opinions in the end.

Seravalli isn't fit to float in Bob McKenzie's toilet bowl.
- Feanor

- Mordecai

(frank)in love Whit dog, (frank) Seravalli, his Philly hate is so evident I'm surprised he throw out pro-Philly sentiments every once in a while just to make people think his opinions all aren't one sided against them.

It doesn't necessarily become part of the trade no. People in the future would look at the totality of all deals just as they do now, i.e. well they traded that 2020 4th rounder who became this 3 years down the road, etc.) however that's years after the fact. And who knows if the original team who had that pick would have even drafted it the same. This happened within a week of each other and i think definitely related. im not sure what narrative you think Im trying to float, always has to be something when you dont agree, just say you dont agree, thats fine. i disagree with you a lot, whats the problem with that. these are all opinions in the end.
- sjk540

So with every response it's who knows what would of happened in the future except for that you know that Fletcher knew that he was going to be able to recoup a 2nd round pick at the draft. That's the narrative you're floating. It doesn't hold water. You can disagree with me all you want, you just don't back it up very well.

You crack me up with applying different standards to suit your narrative. I can do the same thing with the deal to acquire the other 2nd round pick and say that it had to do with who was available and what team was looking to move in the draft and call it completely independent of the Braun deal. You however think that Fletcher has a crystal ball and could foresee recouping a 2nd which changes the actual cost of acquiring Braun.

Thanks for proving my point!

- MJL

Yes, for the team who wanted to trade another pick to us, of course its completely independent of the Braun trade, that team didn't trade for Braun, we did!! Jesus, how nonsensical was including that in your answer?

Also, im not proving anything close to your point, although you seem to like ending your posts with a slick (or lack thereof) one liner or something along those lines to back up the nonsense of your entire point. how hard is it to understand, or to wrap your mind around the fact, that because Fletch lost an asset, he would try harder to recoup an asset the next week around one of the biggest events in hockey and where its 1 of 3 days the entire hockey year where the entire league historically sees the most trades? Is it really that far outside of the realm of possibility that if he doesn't trade away a 2nd, he doesn't try to look for another 2nd on one of those aforementioned days, but because he did spend an asset, he was focusing on or doing more work towards, researching other teams surplus's to form a plan for recouping that asset?

Just agree to disagree and move on.

So with every response it's who knows what would of happened in the future except for that you know that Fletcher knew that he was going to be able to recoup a 2nd round pick at the draft. That's the narrative you're floating. It doesn't hold water. You can disagree with me all you want, you just don't back it up very well.
- MJL

No, I did not say I could see the future, what is your deal? Can you read? My point is saying that Fletcher, not knowing the future, but making it a point to do research, and find a suitor who he thought would be in the position to want to move back in the draft, or would have assets to recoup a 2nd rounder. Nothing about crystal balls, nothing about telling the future or reading the future or seeing the future, nothing. its very simple, its like when you lose a player (via FA or trade or whatever) and you look ahead to see what similar types of player would become available in the future. Its just a plan, its something people put together so they aren't unprepared doing their job. very simple thing to understand, not sure what you're point is by saying im floating narratives or telling the future, thats not what im doing (clearly) at all.

Call me crazy, but I'm gonna wait and see how Braun plays in the orange & black before I decide whether it was a good use of assets to acquire him. If the the team flounders and he's a shot attempt and scoring chance sieve, then it'll go down as a bad trade. Like the trade Homer made for Andrew MacDonald, except there will only be one year of sub-par defending instead of five.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../players/andrew-macdonald

To be fair to Holmgren, he did go out and get a 3rd back for Meszaros at the same trade deadline, which turned into Mark Friedman. So AMac only really cost Philly a 2nd. Oh, and that $30,000,000 contract....

https://www.capfriendly.c...s/players/andrej-meszaros

When you talk about overpaying free agents to keep them in Philly, consider that under an $81.5m cap, MacDonald's $5m AAV works out to $6.341m.