How about you dont post here until you read something of his that you feel is clever?
- Fakepartofme

Im just here to talk Leafs hockey, like everyone else.

Can't believe we are getting trolled by a Buffalo windowlicking fan boy....


- bixll

Fixed!

2007–08 Alexander Ovechkin Washington Capitals 65 82 1
2008–09 Alexander Ovechkin Washington Capitals 56 79 2
2009–10 Sidney Crosby Pittsburgh Penguins 51 81 1
Steven Stamkos Tampa Bay Lightning 51 82 1
2010–11 Corey Perry Anaheim Ducks 50 82 1
2011–12 Steven Stamkos Tampa Bay Lightning 60 82 2
2012–13* Alexander Ovechkin Washington Capitals 32 48 3
2013–14 Alexander Ovechkin Washington Capitals 51 78 4
2014–15 Alexander Ovechkin Washington Capitals 53 81 5
2015–16 Alexander Ovechkin Washington Capitals 50 79 6
2016–17 Sidney Crosby Pittsburgh Penguins 44 75 2
2017–18 Alexander Ovechkin Washington Capitals 49 82 7
2018–19 Alexander Ovechkin Washington Capitals 51 81 8


Gotcha...its an opinion call. Its not like theres one guy that's led the league over and over and over....

Gotcha..lol
- RippedFuel

If we are going to be using your logic then Gretzky is the best....

However that’s a stupid way to look at things.

Look at G/60 and ESG/60 from the last 3 years.

You know. What’s relevant to today...

He is 2 million off for me.

Marner will never reach Matthews scoring touch.

No one is even close right now. Not mcdavid, not Ovi. Marner can put up points.

He needs to start producing a (frank) ton more even strength and goal scoring to be close to Matthews.
- Santo_44

A point is a point.
Hes close in the eye test and healthy.
He plays a 200ft game.
Its what his agent will be arguing.

Im just here to talk Leafs hockey, like everyone else.
- RippedFuel

Good job. You are doing great.

Im just here to talk Leafs hockey, like everyone else.
- RippedFuel

Nah man, youre trolling you know it.
Just admit it. Its cool.

ek's next blog.

mitc marne deal more becoming more likely as soon as friday. possibly on a long or short term team friendly deal. rfa domino's could fall in a weekend of bedlam. if marne is not willing to sign on duba's terms, this could drag on. also hearing twoo legit trade offers are on the table including some very surprising players. one team in the east or west. the other could be in the western conference, but not certain and i am looking into. teams have given a drop dead aug 31 deadline on the offers. one nhl executive i spoke to last night said there are still a couple of teams that are looking at killer offer sheets starting in the teen's of millions or less. Multiple sources telling me this could finally start the all out offer sheet war. lou is very quiet about this. also got this text from a gm this morning: "not sure this is the best move, but marne is very upset about the baptiste signing and it is a growing possibility that he sits out the entire season."

I am also hearing (ee3.3) the leafs are looking to shore up the team's most important position, backup goalie. keep your eye on the rangers and King Hungry. Would be a great move for the leafs. source close to KIng Hank have said he has always wanted to be a leaf. don't discount influence from fellow great swedes sundin, salming and aki berg.

stayed tuned.
- Tumbleweed

You almost had me believing all of that.. Everyone knows Mikael Renberg and Henrik Lundqvist are best friends, not Aki Berg

Fixed!

- .HOHO.

LOL.. No, let the young feller have some fun. He really thinks he is funny.

So charming.

A point is a point.
Hes close in the eye test and healthy.
He plays a 200ft game.
Its what his agent will be arguing.
- Fakepartofme

Disagree and imo not how we judge what a player is worth in a contract.

Facts is the only thing agents can argue here.

An agent can’t say “my eye says Marner is as good as Matthews”

If we are going to be using your logic then Gretzky is the best....

However that’s a stupid way to look at things.

Look at G/60 and ESG/60 from the last 3 years.

You know. What’s relevant to today...
- Santo_44

0 Richard trophies
0 Hart trophies
0 Ross trophies
0 Pearson trophies
0 Conn Smythe trophies
0 playoff wins.

Best player in the game. lol

The only player I'd take over Matthews is McDavid.
- gergeswillems

Right now?
Ya, im on that train.

If we are going to be using your logic then Gretzky is the best....

However that’s a stupid way to look at things.

Look at G/60 and ESG/60 from the last 3 years.

You know. What’s relevant to today...
- Santo_44

It makes sense, in 2008, Matthews didn't score any goals in the NHL. That's not Ovechkin's fault.. You can't blame Ovechkin. That's on Matthews. It's due to Matthews' inability to make the NHL at the age of 11.

We are quite lucky that hes not injury prone. To have a degenerative condition so early in his career...like say...a shoulder....would be a hard thing to cope with..missing 20 games a year makes it hard to be a franchise player.
- RippedFuel

games played

eichel/matthews
81/82
61/62
67/68
77/x

0 Richard trophies
0 Hart trophies
0 Ross trophies
0 Pearson trophies
0 Conn Smythe trophies
0 playoff wins.

Best player in the game. lol
- RippedFuel

Agreed, it's too soon to declare Eichel as a bust..

Agreed, it's too soon to declare Eichel as a bust..
- PatC80

Although a career -65 is pretty bad.

Right now?
Ya, im on that train.
- Fakepartofme

If AM34 wasn't so damn injury prone maybe.

"The best ability is "availability"

The one poster here says the past doesn't matter, only recent seasons. Following that theory. AM34 recently misses 20 games a year...that 25% of the season...Id rather have a more dependable player.

0 Richard trophies
0 Hart trophies
0 Ross trophies
0 Pearson trophies
0 Conn Smythe trophies
0 playoff wins.

Best player in the game. lol
- RippedFuel

Stop putting words in my mouth. I never once said he was the best player in the game.

And trophies? Really?

Use facts please. He’s at the top on G/60 and ESG/60 from the last three years at age 19/20/21. He’s only going up at 22...and he’s already at the top.

The facts don’t lie here.

You can use 2010 Ovi all you want. Matthews was probably having learning his timestables still at that time.

Use actual facts please.

1st pre season game - 1 month today

Disagree and imo not how we judge what a player is worth in a contract.

Facts is the only thing agents can argue here.

An agent can’t say “my eye says Marner is as good as Matthews”
- Santo_44

There is some subjectivity to scouting. Scouts that have a good record with players would be seen as having valuable opinions. If it's all stats scouts wouldn't be necessary.

Disagree and imo not how we judge what a player is worth in a contract.

Facts is the only thing agents can argue here.

An agent can’t say “my eye says Marner is as good as Matthews”
- Santo_44

Doesnt have to. He can point to stats.

They arent that far off.

If AM34 wasn't so damn injury prone maybe.

"The best ability is "availability"

The one poster here says the past doesn't matter, only recent seasons. Following that theory. AM34 recently misses 20 games a year...that 25% of the season...Id rather have a more dependable player.
- RippedFuel

Okay Dr.

1st pre season game - 1 month today
- Lucas.Neilson

I'm so jacked to see what the Marlies top 6 is gonna look like.

Noone is talking about Eichel. This is a Leafs board. Id like to stick to the Leafs. Matthews and Mariner comparisons.

Although a career -65 is pretty bad.
- bixll

Yeah, but, it's not like he's as bad as Ristolainen,

Doesnt have to. He can point to stats.

They arent that far off.
- Fakepartofme

They are extremely far off.

All he has is p/60.

That’s is. He scores on the PP, bravo.

There is plenty plenty more to this. And Matthews kills his stats in the other areas.