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As one of the four horseman of team whiner, I for one am happy Benji has been given a vote of confidence by ownership. Not because I think he is the best guy for the job, but because I hate the idea of Benning approaching the trade deadline with personal uncertainty. - 1970vintage
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Within 2 years OJ, Tryamken, Hoglander, Podkolzen and Woo will be knocking down the door for a roster spot. Not to mention guys like Lind, Lockwood, Rathbone and Madden will be in the thick of it. That's at least 8 more guys competing.
Since so many Canuck prospects don't play in the AHL its not as easy to assess the number of guys ready to push for a spot. The ones ready to leave their leagues just show up for main camp and then get the attention on what they can do. - NuckUp
The 1st 5 will be challenging for a spot. The next 4 I doubt will ever...rathbone maaayyyybe |
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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cap Busters Joined: 07.01.2019
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The 1st 5 will be challenging for a spot. The next 4 I doubt will ever...rathbone maaayyyybe - SMBDragon
The first 5 are likely to get a spot to work in small contracts when the core has been given big ones. The next group will be more pressure in camp competition and likely go to AHL for injury call up. |
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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The first 5 are likely to get a spot to work in small contracts when the core has been given big ones. The next group will be more pressure in camp competition and likely go to AHL for injury call up. - NuckUp
Theres players in utica far ahead of those 4, especially at C. Less for D, but still biega may be there and sautner is pretty much nhl ready |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Within 2 years OJ, Tryamken, Hoglander, Podkolzen and Woo will be knocking down the door for a roster spot. Not to mention guys like Lind, Lockwood, Rathbone and Madden will be in the thick of it. That's at least 8 more guys competing.
Since so many Canuck prospects don't play in the AHL its not as easy to assess the number of guys ready to push for a spot. The ones ready to leave their leagues just show up for main camp and then get the attention on what they can do. - NuckUp
Of those 9...
AHL 2
SHL 1
KHL 2
NCAA 3
1 ready for Utica
A lot of picks that Utica will hardly see for awhile. Good & bad mostly good as far as sliding ELC’s. Hard to judge progress & control of development. With maybe only OJ up for a promotion it will be a time for patience. Short term vets contracts will time out pretty good. |
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Rosen is screwed behind that o-line - Nucker101
YES,
Tunsil will help but the o-line is bad. |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Lets face it, the club needs some stability moving into the 50th season and having a GM on the final year of his deal there doesn't look great lol - LordHumungous
That's not a good enough reason to keep a guy destroying the cap for years to come |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Burrows was a Moose find who signed during Nonis. No Burke involved. - boonerbuck
Ya that's what I thought. Not sure I would include Bieksa as a 'core' guy but close lol. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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...but with someone or someones better we win the cup no?
Kidding aside, if they hired Quenville instead of AV,,, we would have won in my opinion. - boonerbuck
Hard to say but probably correct. AV was outcoached by Julien in the final to some extent. Relying on the PP too much and telling Torres, Lapierre and Bieksa to stand down vs Thornton and Lucic' antics...so many things. Plus Lou choked hard in BOS and AV refused to start Schneider in GM 6. Shoulda woulda coulda...but those Gillis acquisitions were key...whether we liked him or not. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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That's not a good enough reason to keep a guy destroying the cap for years to come - RogerRoeper
lol a Leafs fan commenting on cap issues...
Bye champ.
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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That's not a good enough reason to keep a guy destroying the cap for years to come - RogerRoeper
but let me guess, you think Dubas is a awesome. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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but let me guess, you think Dubas is a awesome. - Codes1087
Dubas has done a far better job at managing his cap.
When Auston Matthews gets named as your worst contract, you are in pretty good shape. LOL
Never, ever overpay for bottom 6 guys. That kills your cap.
Dubas has had a better summer than any GM.
Dubas signs Jason Spezza at 700K for the 4th line, Benning gives Jay Beagle 4 years at 3 million per.
Pay your stars, cheap-out on supporting guys.
Canucks have a GM giving out huge contracts to non-core players before he signs his most important young stars. It's so stupid. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Dubas has done a far better job at managing his cap.
When Auston Matthews gets named as your worst contract, you are in pretty good shape. LOL
Never, ever overpay for bottom 6 guys. That kills your cap.
Dubas has had a better summer than any GM.
Dubas signs Jason Spezza at 700K for the 4th line, Benning gives Jay Beagle 4 years at 3 million per.
Pay your stars, cheap-out on supporting guys - RogerRoeper
your "worst" contract just cost you a 1st round pick, and your whole fanbase has been complaining about Nylander's contract since the day he signed it. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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your "worst" contract just cost you a 1st round pick, and your whole fanbase has been complaining about Nylander's contract since the day he signed it. - Codes1087
That deal was signed by LOU. Don't blame Dubas for that. Lou is like a Benning, he overpays supporting guys. The 2 worst contracts that were moved by Dubas were signed by Lou. And Lou has done it again this summer with the Islanders.
Nylander's deal is fine. Many Leaf fans think he'll have a career year.
Keep in mind, by age 21 Nylander had 2 61 point seasons. players are now getting 6-7.15 per for 1 single career 50 point season.
You honestly think it's wise spending so much on average players? |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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That deal was signed by LOU. Don't blame Dubas for that.
Nylander's deal is fine. Many Leaf fans think he'll have a career year. - RogerRoeper
Was Dubas not around for any of the Lou era?
Again, you talking about Benning's cap situation while you have a prolific "star" who has yet to sign, you paid a 1st round pick for Muzzin (debateble whether hes a top pairing guy) and a 1st round pick to shed a bad 1 year contract. You can tell me all you want that your players signed to bad contracts are still decent players, but the argument that Dubas is better than Benning at managing a cap is not going to bode well here, or anywhere really. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Was Dubas not around for any of the Lou era?
Again, you talking about Benning's cap situation while you have a prolific "star" who has yet to sign, you paid a 1st round pick for Muzzin (debateble whether hes a top pairing guy) and a 1st round pick to shed a bad 1 year contract. You can tell me all you want that your players signed to bad contracts are still decent players, but the argument that Dubas is better than Benning at managing a cap is not going to bode well here, or anywhere really. - Codes1087
He was but he wasn't calling the shots.
There's no way Dubas would have done those deals given how he's operating the team right now. He refuses to overspend for supporting guys.
News flash, Benning currently has a prolific star not signed just like Dubas does. LOL You do know that, right? I realize Marner gets talked about a lot, but his situation is no more dire than Canucks with Boeser
Dubas has signed his core to long term deals. Benning has married himself to average players at long-term deals that can't be moved.
You'd have to be insane to think Canucks' cap is in better shape.. You just signed an at best, aging #4 D to a bigger deal than Morgan Rielly
And that price to get JT Miller with 1 50 point season and a 5.25 cap hit and you're complaining about Nylander's deal? |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Dubas has done a far better job at managing his cap.
When Auston Matthews gets named as your worst contract, you are in pretty good shape. LOL
Never, ever overpay for bottom 6 guys. That kills your cap.
Dubas has had a better summer than any GM.
Dubas signs Jason Spezza at 700K for the 4th line, Benning gives Jay Beagle 4 years at 3 million per.
Pay your stars, cheap-out on supporting guys.
Canucks have a GM giving out huge contracts to non-core players before he signs his most important young stars. It's so stupid. - RogerRoeper
And you wonder why the leafs never see the second round.
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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He was but he wasn't calling the shots.
There's no way Dubas would have done those deals given how he's operating the team right now. He refuses to overspend for supporting guys.
News flash, Benning currently has a prolific star not signed just like Dubas does. LOL You do know that, right? I realize Marner egts talked about a lot, but his situation is no more dire than Canucks with Boeser
Dubas has signed his core to long term deals. Benning has married himself to average players at long-term deals that can't be moved. - RogerRoeper
Benning has cap to sign Boeser. A little bit of a difference.
Also, aside from Myers, please provide examples relative to their cap hits that fit this. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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And you wonder why the leafs never see the second round. - LordHumungous
So the key to success is spending millions on your 4th line. LOL
Leafs had the most 20 goal scorers of any NHL team last season, so your attempted point at lacking "Depth" is a disaster |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Benning has cap to sign Boeser. A little bit of a difference.
Also, aside from Myers, please provide examples relative to their cap hits that fit this. - Codes1087
So does Dubas and it's arguable Benning has the cap. Depends on the #.
Eriksson, Beagle, Miller, Myers my god so much wasted cap.
I get it though our franchise 22 year-old C makes 11.6 oh my god! |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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So the key to success is spending millions on your 4th line. LOL - RogerRoeper
it all balances out. You have so much cash tied up in three players (once marner signs) you are gonna be screwed for a loooong time. good luck.
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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it all balances out. You have so much cash tied up in three players (once marner signs) you are gonna be screwed for a loooong time. good luck.
lol - LordHumungous
Leafs had the best depth of any team last season. Your point is terrible. Check out what team had the most 20 goal scorers, 40 point guys.
Leafs had very good players on their 3rd line that would have been high, even on contenders. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Leafs had the best depth of any team last season. Your point is terrible. Check out what team had the most 20 goal scorers, 40 point guys.
Leafs had very good players on their 3rd line that would have been high, even on contenders. - RogerRoeper
those regular season achievements are what we are most envious of |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Leafs had the best depth of any team last season. Your point is terrible. Check out what team had the most 20 goal scorers, 40 point guys.
Leafs had very good players on their 3rd line that would have been high, even on contenders. - RogerRoeper
negative cap space an Marner unsigned...keep yapping bud...making yourself look great |
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