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Looking forward to more chats and rants in here as hockey season draws near. I do love the differing opinions and how some agree with me and how others are wrong. đ |
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 09.11.2017
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Looking forward to more chats and rants in here as hockey season draws near. I do love the differing opinions and how some agree with me and how others are wrong. đ - Ross77
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DrunkenCanuck
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Location: Check your PM, ON Joined: 07.14.2009
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2.0
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 09.11.2017
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Par Lindholm sign yet? - DrunkenCanuck
Yes he has, July 1st to Boston. Has Petan helped win a playoff round yet?
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Yes he has, July 1st to Boston. Has Petan helped win a playoff round yet? - 2.0
He might for the Marlies. |
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DrunkenCanuck
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Location: Check your PM, ON Joined: 07.14.2009
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Yes he has, July 1st to Boston. Has Petan helped win a playoff round yet? - 2.0
Petan is a bust. Like Dano and Rychel. They are finished. |
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Wheeler and Scheifele are not the problem - they are a major part of the solution.
They play hard, but hard to do game after game, and you hear some team-mate that doesn't play 100%, although he can score if puck is put dead on his stick, saying he wants (or so the rumor is) $10 mill a season. Said guy shouldn't get $1 more than Scheif or there may be mutiny. Bridge contract of one year and then see. If effort and production is there, then many more $$$.
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Wheeler and Scheifele are not the problem - they are a major part of the solution.
They play hard, but hard to do game after game, and you hear some team-mate that doesn't play 100%, although he can score if puck is put dead on his stick, saying he wants (or so the rumor is) $10 mill a season. Said guy shouldn't get $1 more than Scheif or there may be mutiny. Bridge contract of one year and then see. If effort and production is there, then many more $$$.
My guess Patrik is traded or is a hold-out. - grahamzky
A: Wheeler and Scheifele gave up. Visibly. At a traceable time, in a trackable manner.
Wheeler actually only looked good from the break after Finland to the start of 2019. Before that he looked hurt, and after he wasnât moving his feet.
Scheifele just stopped trying when we didnât have possession.
B: Wheeler might be a huge part of the problem. I donât usually buy into rumours, but thereâs a lot of them, and they all point to leadership issues in the room.
C: Laine doesnât need to be fed to score. He wasnât fed at all last season, and he hit 30 with Little. You WANT Scheifele or even Copp feeding him because it means easy (and more) goals for the best shooter in the world. Putting Laine with Little and complaining he isnât scoring is like throwing the wheels off my old Accent on a new Ferrari and complaining that it handles poorly.
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A: Wheeler and Scheifele gave up. Visibly. At a traceable time, in a trackable manner.
Wheeler actually only looked good from the break after Finland to the start of 2019. Before that he looked hurt, and after he wasnât moving his feet.
Scheifele just stopped trying when we didnât have possession.
B: Wheeler might be a huge part of the problem. I donât usually buy into rumours, but thereâs a lot of them, and they all point to leadership issues in the room.
C: Laine doesnât need to be fed to score. He wasnât fed at all last season, and he hit 30 with Little. You WANT Scheifele or even Copp feeding him because it means easy (and more) goals for the best shooter in the world. Putting Laine with Little and complaining he isnât scoring is like throwing the wheels off my old Accent on a new Ferrari and complaining that it handles poorly.
The goal is to use players in a way that gets the most out of them. - Rexypoo
I would argue that Little and Ehlers are better than Chris Clark and Danus Zubrus. Rexypoo , you are probably thinking, who? Those were Ovechkins wingers when he was 20. Guess what Ovechkin did when he was 20? He scored 52 goals and had 54 assists. Laine was 20 this past year and has had 2 extra years to figure out the game.
I love how you provide no stats to backup your claims.
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Rexypoo
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I would argue that Little and Ehlers are better than Chris Clark and Danus Zubrus. Rexypoo , you are probably thinking, who? Those were Ovechkins wingers when he was 20. Guess what Ovechkin did when he was 20? He scored 52 goals and had 54 assists. Laine was 20 this past year and has had 2 extra years to figure out the game.
I love how you provide no stats to backup your claims. - TheUltimateJet
Ovechkin is the greatest goal scorer of all time. That was in a different era, and he was a far more complete player at that age.
And yes, I do think Zubrus then is miles ahead of Little now. Ehlers wasnât with Laine half the time. |
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Ovechkin is the greatest goal scorer of all time. That was in a different era, and he was a far more complete player at that age.
And yes, I do think Zubrus then is miles ahead of Little now. Ehlers wasnât with Laine half the time. - Rexypoo
Zubrus was at the end of his career. Ovechkin elevated those guys game. The era is the same, give me an example of a significant rule change in regulation time if you are going to argue that point. In fact Laine is playing in an easier era with regulated goalie equipment. Good thing Ehlers was not with Laine all the time as Laine has really brought down his game.
Furthermore Ovechkin continues to score 50 goals per year as he did this year when Patrick Laine scored 30. Laine also spent more time on the power play this year than last. It's a head scratcher eh? |
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Rexypoo
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Zubrus was at the end of his career. Ovechkin elevated those guys game. The era is the same, give me an example of a significant rule change in regulation time if you are going to argue that point. In fact Laine is playing in an easier era with regulated goalie equipment. Good thing Ehlers was not with Laine all the time as Laine has really brought down his game.
Furthermore Ovechkin continues to score 50 goals per year as he did this year when Patrick Laine scored 30. Laine also spent more time on the power play this year than last. It's a head scratcher eh? - TheUltimateJet
Zubrus literally played for an entire decade after that season, so good job. Ovechkin did elevate them, because as I said before, he was more complete at that time than Laine. There is also no evidence to show or support Laine and Ehlers have any negative effect on one another whatsoever. Theyâre just both shot first guys, and shouldnât ideally be a pair.
Furthermore, Ovechkin had back to back seasons in the 30 goal range (in his prime) where he was mishandled, and poorly deployed by a coach that didnât understand the player he was dealing with. Even then, he was force fed powerplay minutes. Itâs a head scratcher, eh?
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bikeguy99
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Holy sh*t, youâre so far out to lunch, youâre in a different time zone. On a different continent.
Laine plays with Little at 5v5 AKA an overwhelming majority of the time. Lee has had Barzal and Tavares
You can just go ahead and admit you have a personal disliking for Laine, and stop making wrong arguments - Rexypoo
Thanks for the backing 2.0. And there are many time zones in this great country Rexy. So......For the record, I was referring to Laine's goals as being inflated from his high quality teammates who feed him the puck. I don't believe I am wrong. His stats 5v5 are pathetic. There are no excuses for his 5v5 play and Little certainly does not help. I consider those the soon-to-be worst contracts on the Jet's roster. I am not one to entertain any of Eklunds "rumors", but if a deal was in place with MTL, that was along the line of Laine and Littles brutal contract in exchange for Druin and a 1st, I would be tickled pink. Cap space and a true 2C would certainly be nice. |
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Zubrus literally played for an entire decade after that season, so good job. Ovechkin did elevate them, because as I said before, he was more complete at that time than Laine. There is also no evidence to show or support Laine and Ehlers have any negative effect on one another whatsoever. Theyâre just both shot first guys, and shouldnât ideally be a pair.
Furthermore, Ovechkin had back to back seasons in the 30 goal range (in his prime) where he was mishandled, and poorly deployed by a coach that didnât understand the player he was dealing with. Even then, he was force fed powerplay minutes. Itâs a head scratcher, eh? - Rexypoo
Good for you for finally doing research on Zubrus. Figured you get most of your research from Tony on Twitter as normally you just post what he does. Ovechkin only had one 30 goal season when he player 82 games, where he scored 38. Canât knock the other one where he scored 32 in a 48 game season. |
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Time for a new blog..... - bennythehat
Heres the over under on peteâs upcoming season articles
-Maurice systems are wrong - 73
-Pionk was not the answer - 22
-55&26 still together - 36
-more playing time for the kids - 89 |
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Heres the over under on peteâs upcoming season articles
-Maurice systems are wrong - 73
-Pionk was not the answer - 22
-55&26 still together - 36
-more playing time for the kids - 89 - Ross77
I take the:
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Hopefully I win something! |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Good for you for finally doing research on Zubrus. Figured you get most of your research from Tony on Twitter as normally you just post what he does. Ovechkin only had one 30 goal season when he player 82 games, where he scored 38. Canât knock the other one where he scored 32 in a 48 game season. - TheUltimateJet
Itâs not that I donât do research, itâs that Tony is easier to use as a link than actual sites. Iâm like an encyclopedia for this crap.
Yeah, remembered the lockout season like 10 minutes later. Decided Iâd let it go. Hoped you wouldnât notice. |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Thanks for the backing 2.0. And there are many time zones in this great country Rexy. So......For the record, I was referring to Laine's goals as being inflated from his high quality teammates who feed him the puck. I don't believe I am wrong. His stats 5v5 are pathetic. There are no excuses for his 5v5 play and Little certainly does not help. I consider those the soon-to-be worst contracts on the Jet's roster. I am not one to entertain any of Eklunds "rumors", but if a deal was in place with MTL, that was along the line of Laine and Littles brutal contract in exchange for Druin and a 1st, I would be tickled pink. Cap space and a true 2C would certainly be nice. - bikeguy99
Drouin isnât a good C, and only marginally better than Little for more money.
Laineâs 5v5 numbers were only iffy last season, and a lot of that was bad luck, Littleâs decline, and increased coverage. |
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 09.11.2017
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Thanks for the backing 2.0. And there are many time zones in this great country Rexy. So......For the record, I was referring to Laine's goals as being inflated from his high quality teammates who feed him the puck. I don't believe I am wrong. His stats 5v5 are pathetic. There are no excuses for his 5v5 play and Little certainly does not help. I consider those the soon-to-be worst contracts on the Jet's roster. I am not one to entertain any of Eklunds "rumors", but if a deal was in place with MTL, that was along the line of Laine and Littles brutal contract in exchange for Druin and a 1st, I would be tickled pink. Cap space and a true 2C would certainly be nice. - bikeguy99
you know I lvoe you bikeguy but can't back you on the Little/Laine for Drouin&1st - that's just too far out.
I don't hate Little... he's good but does good win championships? What I take out of the trades for #2c is that Chevy may see him as a little mis-cast right now also.
Laine is easily worth more than Drouin and a 1st but I am not a fan of where his game is at right now, he's got to be better. |
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bikeguy99
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you know I lvoe you bikeguy but can't back you on the Little/Laine for Drouin&1st - that's just too far out.
I don't hate Little... he's good but does good win championships? What I take out of the trades for #2c is that Chevy may see him as a little mis-cast right now also.
Laine is easily worth more than Drouin and a 1st but I am not a fan of where his game is at right now, he's got to be better. - 2.0
Fair enough. It is very hard to assess Laine's trade value. And I kinda thought of Little as a bad contract. I feel he would have to be impact in a package trades as a loss. Just under 6M AAV, signed till he's 36, and 0.5ppg on a team with great wingers and lacking competition centre.....I feel he could very quickly drop to a 4c.
Watching the Jets last season, their glaring issues were puck possession. Wheeler, Ehlers, Morrissey, Scheiffs were all outstanding in that aspect, and created many opportunities. Laine, Little, and Buff were turnover machines. I feel Buff is an intangible player that you can't replace. So he is untouchable in my opinion. Little and Laine are in my dog-house. I would sooner give Ras the 2C job. The past two deadlines have certainly indicated that there is NO faith from the organization in Little. Each deadline, a 1st is spent on a rental 2C, and when Scheiffs gets injured, Wheels moves to 1C. That speaks great volume on Little. |
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Every so often, I check in to see if today is the day that Pete pens a new blog.
But, its not today
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Fair enough. It is very hard to assess Laine's trade value. And I kinda thought of Little as a bad contract. I feel he would have to be impact in a package trades as a loss. Just under 6M AAV, signed till he's 36, and 0.5ppg on a team with great wingers and lacking competition centre.....I feel he could very quickly drop to a 4c.
Watching the Jets last season, their glaring issues were puck possession. Wheeler, Ehlers, Morrissey, Scheiffs were all outstanding in that aspect, and created many opportunities. Laine, Little, and Buff were turnover machines. I feel Buff is an intangible player that you can't replace. So he is untouchable in my opinion. Little and Laine are in my dog-house. I would sooner give Ras the 2C job. The past two deadlines have certainly indicated that there is NO faith from the organization in Little. Each deadline, a 1st is spent on a rental 2C, and when Scheiffs gets injured, Wheels moves to 1C. That speaks great volume on Little. - bikeguy99
The Wheeler and Scheifele duo was bad for possession last season, with both dropping into the negatives for Corsi/Rel.
Scheifele himself actually hovered around the 45~ mark for about 25 games straight.
Wheeler is being overexposed as he declines, and his numbers fell again, too.
Buff was utterly dominant in all 3 zones last year, so letâs stop the criticism right here. Heâs made a career out of dragging people to competency, which you canât do as a âturnover machineâ. The season he spends most of his time with Enstrom (17-18) sees them become a top 5 shutdown pairing. Turnover machine.
As for Little and Laine in your doghouse... let them out. Little is miscast as a 2C, and overexposed. Itâs not his fault heâs getting older. He can still be a great 3C.
Laine has no help. Not his fault. He canât yet do it all alone, as much as he tries to. |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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I would like one Jesse Puljujarvi please |
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I would like one Jesse Puljujarvi please - Rexypoo
Are you serious? |
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