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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 21 @ 2:12 PM ET
I got roped into a PPR fantasy football league this year with a $100 buy-in. I haven't played fantasy football in years. Draft's tomorrow. I pick 4th.

Let's get this out of the way. The answer to the question "What were you thinking?" is "I don't know".

Having done little research or following players, I am thinking of using the ADP calculator as a guide. Is that smart or dumb?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 21 @ 2:13 PM ET
If we finish 31st, his job shouldn't be on the line? It better be at this point.

I am pretty confident we won't be 31st though, maybe 21st or slightly better, so it's really a moot point.

- Bufsaints8


He should be fired if we finish 31st. IDGAF what his draft record looks like.

I'm not convinced he's done retooling this team to move on from some seriously underwhelming players, but there is no possible way the talent on this team equates to 31st.
SoCalPucks
San Jose Sharks
Location: Ice-O-Plex, CA
Joined: 03.20.2012

Aug 21 @ 2:19 PM ET
I cannot believe people are presenting arguments, and/or drawing conclusions, based on some guys farm system rankings. JFC

Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Aug 21 @ 2:19 PM ET
I got roped into a PPR fantasy football league this year with a $100 buy-in. I haven't played fantasy football in years. Draft's tomorrow. I pick 4th.

Let's get this out of the way. The answer to the question "What were you thinking?" is "I don't know".

Having done little research or following players, I am thinking of using the ADP calculator as a guide. Is that smart or dumb?

- buffalofan19


It’s a good guide. But make sure to do your own research as well. I snagged McCaffrey with the last pick in the 2nd round last year and he’ll most likely go in the top 10 picks of most leagues this year.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 21 @ 2:21 PM ET
It’s a good guide. But make sure to do your own research as well. I snagged McCaffrey with the last pick in the 2nd round last year and he’ll most likely go in the top 10 picks of most leagues this year.
- Swedish_Jesus



I meant to do some research over the weekend, but sitting on a beach at a cottage seemed more fun.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 21 @ 2:22 PM ET
This argument holds no water imo

Botterill acquired or re-signed 9 of the 10. He didn't have to do that, and he didn't have to keep them this year. It's an excuse created by the fans for Botterill.

We cant compete until he cleans up the mess he made?

That's a terrible excuse imo. He chose this roster, and he chose those players.

- jcragcrumple


Sobotka was a cap dump and seen as a bottom 6 moderately useful player.
The Lockport brothers have a job to do, and even though there may be a few cheaper options, they do their jobs on the PK and play a decent checking line. I don't really blame him for those two, and their salary impact is minimal.

Bogo and Okposo are not his.

Scandella and Pommer was brought here for a 3rd liner and failed top 6er due to a serious lack of depth, thank you for your service, TM

Berglund was to provide middle 6 C support for Casey, and that failed. That's a mark on Botts, regardless of the necessity to get rid of God.

Re-signing Ristolainen was a no brainer at the time.

Skinner is a massive win. Sheary was virtually free as long as we took Hunwick for a 4th. A good price to pay to fill in the depth left bare by thank you for your service TM.

Scott Wilson is a nice 4th liner for a 5th. Not the best use of asset I guess, but it's insignificant and filled a void.

Carter Hutton was a smart signing, considering it filled a void, and he's better than our defense allowed him to be last year.

Vesey, Mojo, Miller, Joki, Montour remain to be seen.

I don't see a lot of major flaws here. His God return hinges on Colin Miller, Ryan Johnson and Tage Thompson. We have a few years to really determine that. Sure wish the return was better, but again, interest was extremely limited.

Now that we have some prospects ready to step up, we don't need to be filling voids with Charley Work.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 21 @ 2:31 PM ET
I got roped into a PPR fantasy football league this year with a $100 buy-in. I haven't played fantasy football in years. Draft's tomorrow. I pick 4th.

Let's get this out of the way. The answer to the question "What were you thinking?" is "I don't know".

Having done little research or following players, I am thinking of using the ADP calculator as a guide. Is that smart or dumb?

- buffalofan19


A. Spend about 4-5 hours researching mid to late tier guys
B. BPA
Chris16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 06.22.2012

Aug 21 @ 2:32 PM ET


Discuss
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 21 @ 2:34 PM ET


Discuss

- Chris16


buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 21 @ 2:34 PM ET


Discuss

- Chris16


I prefer thin crust.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 21 @ 2:35 PM ET
A. Spend about 4-5 hours researching mid to late tier guys
B. BPA

- TheSabresTaco



That's going to be a tough one.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 21 @ 2:44 PM ET
That's going to be a tough one.
- buffalofan19


you'll be fine-ish.

Problem is, you're playing a lot of serious players. If you don't mind tossing a bill, you'll be fine. But post draft, you're gonna have to watch the wire like a hawk.
matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Aug 21 @ 2:51 PM ET
So he's good enough for the Hawks but not for the Sabres.

Interesting.

Really interesting take.

- TheSabresTaco

Hey, the Hawks GM said after the trade he would get an opportunity to play top six.

The hawks have two very good first liners and two very good second liners, so if Nylander slides into one of those wing slots, he could do pretty well. If the sabres decided to give Nylander the top spot with Eichel and Skinner, the kid probably scores a few goals here too.

Also, it hardly needs to be said, but the blackhawks are hardly a good team over there either.
Over50
Location: Eyes without a face, NY
Joined: 02.23.2018

Aug 21 @ 2:53 PM ET
Thanks for the information on the youngsters.

Much appreciated Michael.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 21 @ 3:03 PM ET
you'll be fine-ish.

Problem is, you're playing a lot of serious players. If you don't mind tossing a bill, you'll be fine. But post draft, you're gonna have to watch the wire like a hawk.

- TheSabresTaco



It's ridiculous how all these sites charge you for their ADP cheat sheets now. Shows how long I have been out of the game.
matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Aug 21 @ 3:03 PM ET
Sobotka was a cap dump and seen as a bottom 6 moderately useful player.
The Lockport brothers have a job to do, and even though there may be a few cheaper options, they do their jobs on the PK and play a decent checking line. I don't really blame him for those two, and their salary impact is minimal.

Bogo and Okposo are not his.

Scandella and Pommer was brought here for a 3rd liner and failed top 6er due to a serious lack of depth, thank you for your service, TM

Berglund was to provide middle 6 C support for Casey, and that failed. That's a mark on Botts, regardless of the necessity to get rid of God.

Re-signing Ristolainen was a no brainer at the time.

Skinner is a massive win. Sheary was virtually free as long as we took Hunwick for a 4th. A good price to pay to fill in the depth left bare by thank you for your service TM.

Scott Wilson is a nice 4th liner for a 5th. Not the best use of asset I guess, but it's insignificant and filled a void.

Carter Hutton was a smart signing, considering it filled a void, and he's better than our defense allowed him to be last year.

Vesey, Mojo, Miller, Joki, Montour remain to be seen.

I don't see a lot of major flaws here. His God return hinges on Colin Miller, Ryan Johnson and Tage Thompson. We have a few years to really determine that. Sure wish the return was better, but again, interest was extremely limited.

Now that we have some prospects ready to step up, we don't need to be filling voids with Charley Work.

- TheSabresTaco


Being a good GM isn't just about what you do, it's about what you didn't do too.

Regier killed it with most of his trades. He also sat and did nothing wayyy to often.

Botts has in my opinion made some decent moves, but not enough for us to be good. I expected a lot more than Vesey, MoJo, and Miller. They keep saying losing is unacceptable but keep bringing back losing players. Roster surgery turned into a minor roster procedure. No one but Housley is gone.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 21 @ 3:19 PM ET
Being a good GM isn't just about what you do, it's about what you didn't do too.

Regier killed it with most of his trades. He also sat and did nothing wayyy to often.

Botts has in my opinion made some decent moves, but not enough for us to be good. I expected a lot more than Vesey, MoJo, and Miller. They keep saying losing is unacceptable but keep bringing back losing players. Roster surgery turned into a minor roster procedure. No one but Housley is gone.

- matty12345



In one off season?

That's some pretty high expectations

The only thing I think that needed to be done that hasn't happened is a Risto trade.

He has brought in 2 middle 6 wingers something this team really needed and a top 4 d man in one off season.

Not to mention swapped a very disappointing prospect for a blue liner who could be another top 4 guy at the end of this year.
Over50
Location: Eyes without a face, NY
Joined: 02.23.2018

Aug 21 @ 3:21 PM ET
Being a good GM isn't just about what you do, it's about what you didn't do too.

Regier killed it with most of his trades. He also sat and did nothing wayyy to often.

Botts has in my opinion made some decent moves, but not enough for us to be good. I expected a lot more than Vesey, MoJo, and Miller. They keep saying losing is unacceptable but keep bringing back losing players. Roster surgery turned into a minor roster procedure. No one but Housley is gone.

- matty12345

I agree with you.

I expected, still expect more alterations to this roster to be made before the regular season begins.

I know that JB knows his job but in my opinion, this is not a roster that puts fear into any other team.
He can't really believe that this roster as it sits can challenge for a playoff spot, can he?

But hey, he certainly knows more than I do so for now I will remain patient.
Chris16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 06.22.2012

Aug 21 @ 3:26 PM ET

- TheSabresTaco



I was reading this MSN article and I thought of this board when I saw that pic. Black & green olives, everyone's favorite.


https://www.msn.com/en-us...FHzNz?li=BBnb7Kz#image=14
matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Aug 21 @ 3:28 PM ET
In one off season?

That's some pretty high expectations

The only thing I think that needed to be done that hasn't happened is a Risto trade.

He has brought in 2 middle 6 wingers something this team really needed and a top 4 d man in one off season.

Not to mention swapped a very disappointing prospect for a blue liner who could be another top 4 guy at the end of this year.

- Stripes77


Expectations are just so pathetically low.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 21 @ 3:30 PM ET
Colin Miller was a cap casualty that wasn't kept because he lacks what I like to call playoff defense.

A bunch of Mattias Samuelssons. It's why I believe he was benched. He's a fantastic puck carrier, he's good in the other zone, he's great against bottom 6 competition and can probably handle middle 6 almost as well.

But he allows entries too against top 6.

So what it came down to is, he was highest salaried defender that was expendable.

- TheSabresTaco


Where’s this from?
Doesn’t sound like he’d be a good fit to pair with Dahlin
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 21 @ 3:35 PM ET
Expectations are just so pathetically low.
- matty12345



Realistic is more like it

I would have liked to see a Risto trade for a top 6 winger but other than that there has been solid pieces added to this roster

The subtraction piece is still something I am waiting for as well

Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Aug 21 @ 3:50 PM ET
10/10 mental gymnastics

Botterill has had 3 drafts - the prospect pool is his, for better or worse

- jcragcrumple


Yes he does and it is good, when he got here there was nothing.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 21 @ 4:54 PM ET
Has anyone else seen these value charts on Marcus Davidsson?

He's #15 per Pronman, but I've seen him discussed as a top 5 prospect for us. I thought he had a down year this year, so can't argue either way, just curious on what we thought.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 21 @ 5:02 PM ET
Being a good GM isn't just about what you do, it's about what you didn't do too.

Regier killed it with most of his trades. He also sat and did nothing wayyy to often.

Botts has in my opinion made some decent moves, but not enough for us to be good. I expected a lot more than Vesey, MoJo, and Miller. They keep saying losing is unacceptable but keep bringing back losing players. Roster surgery turned into a minor roster procedure. No one but Housley is gone.

- matty12345


expecting all that needs doing in one or two offseasons is unreasonable.
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