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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 20 @ 9:22 PM ET
Florida snags a wild card spot. .

Their top six is solid, and adding Bob will be a big boost.

- david22


I think Florida will be the main competition for the Leafs for a wild card spot.
LeafnsNxt2Godlyns
Location: Matt Stajan still sucks, even in Germany.
Joined: 07.20.2006

Aug 20 @ 9:26 PM ET
Not saying trading him is the best option because it’s not....

But if Marner is going to stand pat on 11 million I’d love a Marner for Werenski/Anderson.

Werenski will probably get 6x6.5

I’d still rather have Marner at a reasonable cap hit.....

- Santo_44

so let me get this straight, no to marner for rantanen because friends and yes to marner for anderson OR werenski just because?
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Aug 20 @ 9:31 PM ET
I think Florida will be the main competition for the Leafs for a wild card spot.
- aminnes


Toronto is too good not to finish top 3 in the division. Even if Marner pulls a Nylander (which I doubt happens)
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:32 PM ET
Wow it went full retard in here today, huh.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 9:36 PM ET
so let me get this straight, no to marner for rantanen because friends and yes to marner for anderson OR werenski just because?
- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns


Uhm.

Werenski and Anderson is not the same.....

What’s the difference between 1 and 2? Come on you got this.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 9:36 PM ET
Toronto is too good not to finish top 3 in the division. Even if Marner pulls a Nylander (which I doubt happens)
- david22

Some leaf fans are like this.

Just smile and nod.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 20 @ 9:37 PM ET
Wow it went full retard in here today, huh.
- gravyface


Why break tradition?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 9:37 PM ET
Wow it went full retard in here today, huh.
- gravyface

I know look who’s posting
leafluver27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.20.2012

Aug 20 @ 9:38 PM ET
I believe Matthews to be the better player, but using the playoffs is a little off. IMO

Marner had the Bergeron/Marchand line 3x more then Auston.

- Garnie

Auston has a lot less support than John Tavares...IMHO
leafluver27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.20.2012

Aug 20 @ 9:40 PM ET
Or maybe negotiation is a common tactic for contracts.
- Zezel

Point is by far the better player
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 20 @ 9:41 PM ET
Toronto is too good not to finish top 3 in the division. Even if Marner pulls a Nylander (which I doubt happens)
- david22


I think the elephant in the room - defensive deficiencies - will be an even bigger problem this season.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 9:41 PM ET
Point is by far the better player
- leafluver27

By far? I don’t think so.

But he scores more and is a center so yeah...I’d take him over Marner.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 9:42 PM ET
I think the elephant in the room - defensive deficiencies - will be an even bigger problem this season.
- aminnes

The elephant in the room is everyone here laughing at your posts.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 20 @ 9:43 PM ET
Auston has a lot less support than John Tavares...IMHO
- leafluver27


Who do you think JT faces? Matthews faces the second best the opposition offers.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 20 @ 9:44 PM ET
The elephant in the room is everyone here laughing at your posts.
- Santo_44


Sure. And then another season goes by, and I look back and wonder why guys are such super fan boys and worship the Leafs like they have won something the last 50 plus years. But hey, they are the richest team for a reason I guess.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:44 PM ET
It's not a matter of having 6 All-Star D. It's a matter of there being too many guys who play the exact same style and too few who know what to do in their own end.

It's the same problem they have with the forwards. Speed and skill for days but toughness, physicality and grit almost non-existent, especially with Kadri gone.

If Gardiner signed, that top-4 is still soft and defensively flawed. Without Gardiner, it's still the same because then poopstain Ceci gets more ice time and he's even worse.

- JohnFergusonJr


Still soft but Gards is much better then Ceci, our D would be the best it’s been IF we can get Gards signed too....I would think ( not that I think we’ll get him signed )
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:45 PM ET
Auston has a lot less support than John Tavares...IMHO
- leafluver27

Still facing Bergeron / Marchand is pretty much an impossible task looking at their stats and how they run over everyone they face for the most.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 20 @ 9:45 PM ET
Point is by far the better player
- leafluver27


That's arguable. It would be tough for me to say it was by far for either player. I still like Marner.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 9:49 PM ET
Still facing Bergeron / Marchand is pretty much an impossible task looking at their stats and how they run over everyone they face for the most.
- Garnie

I just want to know why it’s so damn important that Marner played with JVR/Bozak and how it was a huge reason he couldn’t get over 70 points.

But when Matthews plays with worse players it doesn’t matter....
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:50 PM ET
Some leaf fans are like this.

Just smile and nod.

- Santo_44


Like you and I discussing Ceci and then your next post you betting me Gardiner will get more then $1m

Did you see my earlier post?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 9:51 PM ET
Sure. And then another season goes by, and I look back and wonder why guys are such super fan boys and worship the Leafs like they have won something the last 50 plus years. But hey, they are the richest team for a reason I guess.
- aminnes


Yes.

Let’s look back.

I want to look back at this and see if Florida and the Leafs are battling for the last playoff spot.

I just took a screenshot.

In fact I’ll make a page on your predictions from today on. I’ll share it at the end of the season.

Please. Go on.

Tell us what you think Nylander will do this season?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 20 @ 9:52 PM ET
Like you and I discussing Ceci and then your next post you betting me Gardiner will get more then $1m

Did you see my earlier post?

- Garnie


I would be very happy to bet this

In fact I’d bet he gets a raise from his current cap hit.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:53 PM ET
I just want to know why it’s so damn important that Marner played with JVR/Bozak and how it was a huge reason he couldn’t get over 70 points.

But when Matthews plays with worse players it doesn’t matter....

- Santo_44


I think Kap - Nylander and Johnsson are pretty good?

Of course JT helped Marner, and Marner helped JT set his goals record.

I think Matthews is a better player, but over the 3 years so far, it’s not by as much as some think.

I don’t like many contracts on many teams, so I’ll just stay out of the “who’s worth what” talk.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 20 @ 9:53 PM ET
Sure. And then another season goes by, and I look back and wonder why guys are such super fan boys and worship the Leafs like they have won something the last 50 plus years. But hey, they are the richest team for a reason I guess.
- aminnes


Watching is fun, that's why I watch and go to games. Fun.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 20 @ 9:53 PM ET
matthews played ball and signed a contract the leafs offered, marner is not doing the same.
- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns

Are you (frank)ing kidding? Mathews got one hell of a player friendly contract. He got the 2nd highest cap hit in the NHL and he only had to sign for 5 years. Stop pretending like Matthews took this team friendly deal. Is it a nice cap hit? Yes, but you only have 5 years of him at that and then he's a UFA. There's a really good chance he makes more than McDavid over those peak 8 years.
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