The thing is also that, although the Leafs may lose AM in five years, for the next five years they will have the most vicious one-two punch down the middle in the league, and that's rad.
- Zezel

I like rad.

JT!

Better player, better value in the long run, just entering his prime. Nylander matched Kadri's career high in his first full season. He will likely score more points this season than Kadri ever will in a season. And at this point Nylander is very underrated, perhaps the most underrated player in the league.
- Zezel

Ya, i really dont think hes the most underrated at all. 6.9 for a 60pt player.
Even at 70pts, thats not underrated.

But they’re fake points. One look at your avi shows your opinion of the leafs. You come here and try to pretend otherwise. Then you spew totally different takes in other threads.
Everything you say here is biased crap that you try to disguise as reasonable hockey talk.
- shack67

Hey, leave me out of this.
Lol

It was close enough to make the point.

He didn’t get the milestone.
- Santo_44

Like my boy kessel scoring 40.

Hey, leave me out of this.
Lol
- Fakepartofme

Ha, that went right over my head for a second.

Better player, better value in the long run, just entering his prime. Nylander matched Kadri's career high in his first full season. He will likely score more points this season than Kadri ever will in a season. And at this point Nylander is very underrated, perhaps the most underrated player in the league.
- Zezel

i don't think so. you are assuming that nylander will at some point become a 60 point or better player for the duration of his contract, that is not set in stone. as last season showed, he is fully capable of going invisible and under performing offensively even if he's flanking matthews or tavares. kadri and brown combined would help the leafs more this season than nylander's 60 points. the leafs also have a grit and team defense problem, losing brown and kadri exacerbates the issue, nylander certainly does not help that. brown and kadri if i'm not mistaken were also 2 of their top penalty killers.

i don't think so. you are assuming that nylander will at some point become a 60 point or better player for the duration of his contract, that is not set in stone. as last season showed, he is fully capable of going invisible and under performing offensively even if he's flanking matthews or tavares. kadri and brown combined would help the leafs more this season than nylander's 60 points. the leafs also have a grit and team defense problem, losing brown and kadri exacerbates the issue, nylander certainly does not help that. brown and kadri if i'm not mistaken were also 2 of their top penalty killers.
- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns

This all day 'er day

The goal is to develop a guy ad let Andersen walk
- aminnes

Probably not the best risk to take if the goal is to win a Cup. There's nobody in the system who can replace Andersen for next season.

Nothing to do with JT.

Nothing at all.

Matthews has Kapanen and he’s the same player basically...................
- Santo_44

Said no one. Except you. In an attempt to put words in somebody else's mouth.

Still soft but Gards is much better then Ceci, our D would be the best it’s been IF we can get Gards signed too....I would think ( not that I think we’ll get him signed )
- Garnie

Gardiner is better than Ceci.

But neither bring what the Leafs really need on the blueline; size, toughness, physicality, scoring chance reduction, goal reduction and PK ability.

Probably not the best risk to take if the goal is to win a Cup. There's nobody in the system who can replace Andersen for next season.
- JohnFergusonJr

The cup and next season has me confused.

Ya, i really dont think hes the most underrated at all. 6.9 for a 60pt player.
Even at 70pts, thats not underrated.
- Fakepartofme

Not underpaid, underrated, by fans.

I like JVR, don’t think he’s that great, except on the PP in front of the net he was money. Kind of miss that sum female dog!!!
- Garnie

At $7MM a year?

Put the fukin pipe down

The cup and next season has me confused.
- aminnes

Leafs are a work in progress. They consistently make the playoffs and are losing in the 1st round to one of the top teams in the league.

Will they win the Cup next year or the year after that? Probably not. But getting rid of Andersen in favor of a rookie doesn't improve those odds, especially if the D stays the same.

i don't think so. you are assuming that nylander will at some point become a 60 point or better player for the duration of his contract, that is not set in stone. as last season showed, he is fully capable of going invisible and under performing offensively even if he's flanking matthews or tavares. kadri and brown combined would help the leafs more this season than nylander's 60 points. the leafs also have a grit and team defense problem, losing brown and kadri exacerbates the issue, nylander certainly does not help that. brown and kadri if i'm not mistaken were also 2 of their top penalty killers.
- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns

Kadri was never fleet of foot and to me he looked slow last season. Probably a sign of things to come. Let’s face it the guy will probably never get 30 again.
IMO we’re way better with Barrie and Kerfoot on the team.

Leafs are a work in progress. They consistently make the playoffs and are losing in the 1st round to one of the top teams in the league.

Will they win the Cup next year or the year after that? Probably not. But getting rid of Andersen in favor of a rookie doesn't improve those odds, especially if the D stays the same.
- JohnFergusonJr

I was referring to when Andersen needs a new deal. Is it after next year?

*eats crayon*

Kap AM WN
AJ JT MM
SOME RUSSIAN GUY Kerhand Moore
Spezza's winger Spezza Spezza's other winger

Rielly Gardiner
Muzzin Barrie
Dumb + Dumber

Stanley Cup

- Garnie

Fixed.... You obviously ate the crayon BEFORE that post!



Oh... BTW
CABOT.
IS.
AWESOME.

i don't think so. you are assuming that nylander will at some point become a 60 point or better player for the duration of his contract, that is not set in stone. as last season showed, he is fully capable of going invisible and under performing offensively even if he's flanking matthews or tavares. kadri and brown combined would help the leafs more this season than nylander's 60 points. the leafs also have a grit and team defense problem, losing brown and kadri exacerbates the issue, nylander certainly does not help that. brown and kadri if i'm not mistaken were also 2 of their top penalty killers.
- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns

Well he already scored 60 points twice out of the gate in his career so I like that assumption. Like I said, I like Brown and Kadri but high end skill is harder to replace than depth guys like Brown, and Kadri was used to add Barrie and Kerfoot.

Dubas signing JT was the mistake. You already had 3 C's, 2 for sure.

That's what drove up Matthews price and also changed the Leafs from a team with a pile of cap space to a team without any. JT's one hell of a player, so it's not about that. They just didn't need to add elite talent to the forward ranks, at least not at that cost.

Signing JT was a step backwards imo, but if they win even 1 cup it will be worth it and forgotten. I just think they've sacrificed depth and flexibility although there are still a few high end talents on the cusp of graduating.
- golfingsince

Oh.

Well he already scored 60 points twice out of the gate in his career so I like that assumption. Like I said, I like Brown and Kadri but high end skill is harder to replace than depth guys like Brown, and Kadri was used to add Barrie and Kerfoot.
- Zezel

It's weird that people don't realize how good Brown is as an overall player. He simply was pushed into a checking role by babs due to no one else being there. Nylander did jack poop in his junior days while brown was a superstar. Kadri has always been good. Here's the scenario: Kadri and Brown or Nylander and plug. I think it's an easy answer. Oh but right handed Gardner...

Well he already scored 60 points twice out of the gate in his career so I like that assumption. Like I said, I like Brown and Kadri but high end skill is harder to replace than depth guys like Brown, and Kadri was used to add Barrie and Kerfoot.
- Zezel

If someone had told me that we would have Barrie and Kerfoot this year and only lose Kadri I would have thought they were dreaming.
And the only people who don’t think it’s a great deal are some of our own “fan”

It's weird that people don't realize how good Brown is as an overall player. He simply was pushed into a checking role by babs due to no one else being there. Nylander did jack poop in his junior days while brown was a superstar. Kadri has always been good. Here's the scenario: Kadri and Brown or Nylander and plug. I think it's an easy answer. Oh but right handed Gardner...
- aminnes

Brown was relegated to being a checker because the leafs are a powerhouse offensively. There was no where else to put him, which made him expendable.

Oh.



- .HOHO.

I don’t know why we allow that guy in here.

It's weird that people don't realize how good Brown is as an overall player. He simply was pushed into a checking role by babs due to no one else being there. Nylander did jack poop in his junior days while brown was a superstar. Kadri has always been good. Here's the scenario: Kadri and Brown or Nylander and plug. I think it's an easy answer. Oh but right handed Gardner...
- aminnes

Yeah I love Brown. That's one of those painful losses where It's too bad the cap squeeze meant he couldn't be slightly overpaid for his roster position. But it falls into the category of good problem to have when you have to replace a role guy internally because of having 'too much' high end talent.

Not underpaid, underrated, by fans.
- Zezel

A soft points getter.
Is what most fans and hockey people think
So far, not underrated.
Pretty bang on.