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winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 21 @ 7:26 AM ET
Nobody else as good available.

If Andersen played for the Blues, they still win the Cup.

If he fades, it's because his workload is too high and that's not his fault and 100% preventable by having a better back-up and better defense.

- JohnFergusonJr





bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 21 @ 7:30 AM ET
Maybe at scoring points, but defensively, the Leafs D is as leaky as ever. Still small, still weak, still soft, still going to have trouble killing penalties, preventing chances and preventing goals.
- JohnFergusonJr


How do you know this. You have never even seen this group play together before....

What are the lottery numbers for Friday?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 21 @ 7:34 AM ET
All 7 combined; 0 Stanley Cups.

Everybody wants a great goalie because it covers up mistakes and lineup deficiencies. But teams win Cups and a top 10 goalie is usually good enough.

- JohnFergusonJr


Rask won a cup in 2011.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 21 @ 7:39 AM ET
How do you know this. You have never even seen this group play together before....

What are the lottery numbers for Friday?

- bixll



alot of our fans sound like know it all twats instead letting the teams play on the ice tell the story of what this years team is. apparantely it's more important to sound pompous instead of being patient.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 21 @ 7:40 AM ET
I guess.

JT is 29 when the season starts, so I wouldn't really expect him to improve......especially without Marner.

I would have spent/saved the money for elsewhere.

- golfingsince


I can see this argument. I had the same thoughts when he was signed.

The thing is, the RFA landscape changed drastically over the past year. I think the Leafs had a plan, and the rug got pulled out from under them a bit with what RFA's are getting paid. Thanks to Draisaitl and Eichel for this.

The only reason I hate the Matthews signing is I believe he will leave in 5 years. I have never had the feeling he had any sort of desire to play here. The money and term though, he was going to get somewhere else via offersheet. I believe at least 2 teams would have given up the 4 firsts to get him. Thank God he is at least signed or we would be going through BOTH Marner and Matthews now.

So far, at least, I don't see any horribly regrettable contracts on the Leafs... not like Hayes, or Skinner-esque deals.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 21 @ 7:41 AM ET
alot of our fans sound like know it all twats instead letting the teams play on thd ice tell the story of what this years team is. apparantely it's more important to sound pompous instead of being patient.
- systemtool


I personally can't wait for the season to start
I hope all the big mouth twats watch the Leafs go deep into the playoffs this year.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Aug 21 @ 7:42 AM ET
Rask won a cup in 2011.
- bixll


Did he play though? I don't think so.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 21 @ 7:44 AM ET
I can see this argument. I had the same thoughts when he was signed.

The thing is, the RFA landscape changed drastically over the past year. I think the Leafs had a plan, and the rug got pulled out from under them a bit with what RFA's are getting paid. Thanks to Draisaitl and Eichel for this.

The only reason I hate the Matthews signing is I believe he will leave in 5 years. I have never had the feeling he had any sort of desire to play here. The money and term though, he was going to get somewhere else via offersheet. I believe at least 2 teams would have given up the 4 firsts to get him. Thank God he is at least signed or we would be going through BOTH Marner and Matthews now.

So far, at least, I don't see any horribly regrettable contracts on the Leafs... not like Hayes, or Skinner-esque deals.

- Aetherial


its easy to say in theory but in reality its not that simple. if you dont sign JT youre likely to have two average players under contract. perhaps a Gardner extention. love the JT signing all day.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 21 @ 7:45 AM ET
Did he play though? I don't think so.
- LeafGuy89

Tim Thomas won that Cup!
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 21 @ 7:45 AM ET
Tim Thomas won that Cup!
- 21peter


I thought Boston won the cup.

My bad
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 21 @ 7:51 AM ET
I thought Boston won the cup.

My bad

- bixll

you're forgiven - barely...
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 21 @ 7:53 AM ET
you're forgiven - barely...
- 21peter


Hard to believe there were only 20 Peters a head of you.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Aug 21 @ 8:00 AM ET
I thought Boston won the cup.

My bad

- bixll


They did, but rask didnt contribute to winning that cup.

So I'd keep him on that list of names who haven't won a cup for their respective teams.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 21 @ 8:00 AM ET
Hard to believe there were only 20 Peters a head of you.
- bixll

try to eat something - it may calm you down
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 21 @ 8:04 AM ET
try to eat something - it may calm you down
- 21peter


Did realize i was excited...
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 21 @ 8:05 AM ET
Did realize i was excited...
- bixll

better read your comments again then
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 21 @ 8:07 AM ET
better read your comments again then
- 21peter


Lolol. So, your mad because i pointed out that you are only the 21st Peter..

How does that make me excited... foolish
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 21 @ 8:14 AM ET
Lolol. So, your mad because i pointed out that you are only the 21st Peter..

How does that make me excited... foolish

- bixll

He’s mad all the time.. just ignore him.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Aug 21 @ 8:15 AM ET
Sure. And then another season goes by, and I look back and wonder why guys are such super fan boys and worship the Leafs like they have won something the last 50 plus years. But hey, they are the richest team for a reason I guess.
- aminnes


It's just entertainment bud. Look elsewhere for enrichment in your life if you're just on here to slag the Leafs.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 21 @ 8:16 AM ET
He’s mad all the time.. just ignore him.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Yup, his issue not mine.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 21 @ 8:17 AM ET
its easy to say in theory but in reality its not that simple. if you dont sign JT youre likely to have two average players under contract. perhaps a Gardner extention. love the JT signing all day.
- systemtool


Ditto on the JT signing. Leafs are a cap team, adding scoring talent and paying for it is so much better than over paying for middle of the road jabronis like Okposo, Haynes, Kessler, Backes and Eriksson to name a few.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 21 @ 8:18 AM ET
It's just entertainment bud. Look elsewhere for enrichment in your life if you're just on here to slag the Leafs.
- gravyface


I know, so many anti fan / fans... crazy.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Aug 21 @ 8:28 AM ET
I know, so many anti fan / fans... crazy.
- bixll


Right? Lighten up, enjoy the ride. I know I am. This perennial playoffs contender version of the Leafs beats the hell out of every other Leafs team since the Sundin era, and even that never felt as good as this one.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 21 @ 8:31 AM ET
Right? Lighten up, enjoy the ride. I know I am. This perennial playoffs contender version of the Leafs beats the hell out of every other Leafs team since the Sundin era, and even that never felt as good as this one.
- gravyface


Totally agree. Fire Babcock is the most insane i have heard in a long time... makes me shake my head.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 21 @ 8:39 AM ET
Right? Lighten up, enjoy the ride. I know I am. This perennial playoffs contender version of the Leafs beats the hell out of every other Leafs team since the Sundin era, and even that never felt as good as this one.
- gravyface

The entire world is divisive now...

And it permeated Leafs Nation.
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