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RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 21 @ 4:33 PM ET


reason for this?

- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns

I think it’s pretty self evident.
LeafnsNxt2Godlyns
Location: Matt Stajan still sucks, even in Germany.
Joined: 07.20.2006

Aug 21 @ 4:34 PM ET
I think it’s pretty self evident.
- RickJames77

not really
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 21 @ 4:34 PM ET
not really
- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns

I find it hard to believe you’ve seen players better than Marner that haven’t even gotten a crack in the NHL.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Aug 21 @ 4:35 PM ET
No it wasn’t. Brown’s final season was 2013-2014 and McDavid’s was 2014-2015.

Unless I’m missing something or misinterpreting what you mean.

- RickJames77



Looks like the egg is on me I though it was the other way round.
LeafnsNxt2Godlyns
Location: Matt Stajan still sucks, even in Germany.
Joined: 07.20.2006

Aug 21 @ 4:35 PM ET
I find it hard to believe you’ve seen players better than Marner that haven’t even gotten a crack in the NHL.
- RickJames77

why is that so hard to believe?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 21 @ 4:36 PM ET
Looks like the egg is on me I though it was the other way round.
- zazzle

Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt

I was wrong a bit as well. McDavid did miss some time in Browns 128pt season. He was still in his final year though, where you usually see the overages dominate. St least they should IMO.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 4:38 PM ET
2013-14 Erie Otters:

McDavid GP 56, 28 G, 71 A 99 P
Brown GP 68, 45 G, 83 A 128 P

McDavid got injured more than once in junior.

- aminnes

Wasn't Brown like 42 at that point? I love Brown but he's not comparable to Nylander. Not even close to unfortunately. Plus Nylander is far more gorgeous which apparently is all we care about.

You'll splooge your pants when you see Justin Brazeau's totals as a 37 year old
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
why is that so hard to believe?
- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns

Can you name one of these players? I think it’s hard to believe a player better than someone, who just put up 94pts in the NHL at the age of 21, hasn’t gotten a fair shake in the NHL.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 21 @ 4:41 PM ET
Can you name one of these players? I think it’s hard to believe a player better than someone, who just put up 94pts in the NHL at the age of 21, hasn’t gotten a fair shake in the NHL.
- RickJames77


The problem is you don't get to look in the same mirror he does.
golfingsince
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Aug 21 @ 4:43 PM ET
Wasn't Brown like 42 at that point? I love Brown but he's not comparable to Nylander. Not even close to unfortunately. Plus Nylander is far more gorgeous which apparently is all we care about.

You'll splooge your pants when you see Justin Brazeau's totals as a 37 year old

- walshyleafsfan


Dane Fox scored 64 goals! 64!
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 21 @ 4:45 PM ET
Can you name one of these players? I think it’s hard to believe a player better than someone, who just put up 94pts in the NHL at the age of 21, hasn’t gotten a fair shake in the NHL.
- RickJames77


. . In a world where Brown is better than Nylander, anything is possible!

aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 21 @ 4:46 PM ET
Wasn't Brown like 42 at that point? I love Brown but he's not comparable to Nylander. Not even close to unfortunately. Plus Nylander is far more gorgeous which apparently is all we care about.

You'll splooge your pants when you see Justin Brazeau's totals as a 37 year old

- walshyleafsfan


I don't think Brown is as good offensively as Nylander, but I don't think he's that far off either. And he brings other attributes to the table. If given more opportunity he will show more offence. But it's also not all about this, I'd take less offence and the 5 million in extra money to ad depth to a weak area, because as we saw, even without Nylander, the Leafs can score.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 21 @ 4:52 PM ET
I don't think Brown is as good offensively as Nylander, but I don't think he's that far off either. And he brings other attributes to the table. If given more opportunity he will show more offence. But it's also not all about this, I'd take less offence and the 5 million in extra money to ad depth to a weak area, because as we saw, even without Nylander, the Leafs can score.
- aminnes


peter, hello.

you really should have traded for brown. you'd probably still have your job in Edmonton if you did!
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
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Aug 21 @ 4:55 PM ET
Nylander is an elite talent, he always has been.

Maybe as he becomes a man he'll play in the dirty areas more effectively.
LeafnsNxt2Godlyns
Location: Matt Stajan still sucks, even in Germany.
Joined: 07.20.2006

Aug 21 @ 4:55 PM ET
Can you name one of these players? I think it’s hard to believe a player better than someone, who just put up 94pts in the NHL at the age of 21, hasn’t gotten a fair shake in the NHL.
- RickJames77

look at the era that marner is playing in. if this were pre 2005 mitch marner probably would not have even made the nhl. he probably would have been simon gamache.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 21 @ 4:55 PM ET
They've only played once which is quite surprising as they've both been powerhouse franchises for the past 50 years.
- golfingsince


Only financially
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 21 @ 4:56 PM ET
peter, hello.

you really should have traded for brown. you'd probably still have your job in Edmonton if you did!

- Tumbleweed


There were rumours they were trying to get him but Ottawa sweetened the deal.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 4:56 PM ET
I don't think Brown is as good offensively as Nylander, but I don't think he's that far off either. And he brings other attributes to the table. If given more opportunity he will show more offence. But it's also not all about this, I'd take less offence and the 5 million in extra money to ad depth to a weak area, because as we saw, even without Nylander, the Leafs can score.
- aminnes

Think how much more we could get in a trade (and more cap space) trading Greedy Mitch
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
Nylander is an elite talent, he always has been.

Maybe as he becomes a man he'll play in the dirty areas more effectively.

- golfingsince


This I don't agree with. A good talent? A second line winger? Yes. But not elite.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 21 @ 4:58 PM ET
There were rumours they were trying to get him but Ottawa sweetened the deal.
- aminnes


when top gm's like chiarelli and dorion are interested in you, you must be good!
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 21 @ 4:58 PM ET
Think how much more we could get in a trade (and more cap space) trading Greedy Mitch
- walshyleafsfan


True. Accept he's the most talented winger. You keep the most talented and move on from the lesser thans if the cap demands it.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 21 @ 4:58 PM ET
when top gm's like chiarelli and dorion are interested in you, you must be good!
- Tumbleweed


Dorian and Holland.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 21 @ 5:00 PM ET
Dorian and Holland.
- aminnes


my bad.

*checks red wings record over the past 5 years.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 5:01 PM ET
Nylander is an elite talent, he always has been.

Maybe as he becomes a man he'll play in the dirty areas more effectively.

- golfingsince

Then he'll fit right in with all the other tough power forwards and hard hitting dman the Leafs have.

Makes me laugh when people call Nylander soft like he sticks out like a sore thumb
reefguy69
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 08.15.2010

Aug 21 @ 5:02 PM ET
look at the era that marner is playing in. if this were pre 2005 mitch marner probably would not have even made the nhl. he probably would have been simon gamache.
- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns


Are you sayin that Simon gamache is better than MM?
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