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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:48 AM ET
For which team?
- Atomic Wedgie

did you read this one?

https://theathletic.com/1...u-think/?source=twittered
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Aug 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
nah... I wouldn't call him stupid. Steve Simmons is stupid.

but I would question some of Burke's "judgement"... it hasn't exactly always been the best.

---> Tyler Biggs

- BorjeFan4Ever

kessel was a good player, still is.

in the overall spectrum....but hes a piece you add to help take you to the final step towards the cup. hes a goal scorer, not a team leader or guy you build your team around.

that's why hes stupid. He came in, tried to be a hero with a stupid trade that changed the franchise and it blew up in his face!

I was never a big fan of BB as you can see hah
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Aug 27 @ 11:50 AM ET
that's good... because I don't believe anyone will be dumb enough to offer him one.

I think he wants Don Cherry's spot.

- BorjeFan4Ever


Frenchy and I are looking into it
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 27 @ 11:50 AM ET
Anyone want to buy a Pro Reebok Marner Away jersey size 50?

In perfect condition.

PM me.


- .HOHO.

Do you accept ZWD?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 27 @ 11:51 AM ET
I love watching him too, I couldn't imagine playing hockey against him though.

I'm guessing he was a nasty SOB on the ice.

- Garnie


Yeah, seems like the kind of guy that would hack the back of your knees when you're looking the other way.
lonnyBohonos
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 02.02.2017

Aug 27 @ 11:51 AM ET
Good article that breaks it down but basically says that players with a US residence will really have no difference in pay than if they played in the US. ~~If the bulk of their getting max signing bonus. Which Toronto can do just fine.

"Based on the tax treaty between Canada and the United States, Canada can only tax signing bonuses at a maximum rate of 15%. Therefore, to the extent any income is subject to a maximum of 15% tax in Canada, a player will receive a full credit against their U.S. taxes for this income thus placing them in no worse off position by playing in Canada."

https://www.crowe.com/ca/...tm_campaign=View-Original
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 27 @ 11:51 AM ET
and you're still overpaid
- Symba007

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 27 @ 11:52 AM ET
serious question - not begin sarcastic...

what was Burke saying about the offer sheets late in calendar year 2018 and early 2019?

- BorjeFan4Ever

Burke?
Not sure what he said.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 27 @ 11:55 AM ET
Good article that breaks it down but basically says that players with a US residence will really have no difference in pay than if they played in the US. ~~If the bulk of their getting max signing bonus. Which Toronto can do just fine.

"Based on the tax treaty between Canada and the United States, Canada can only tax signing bonuses at a maximum rate of 15%. Therefore, to the extent any income is subject to a maximum of 15% tax in Canada, a player will receive a full credit against their U.S. taxes for this income thus placing them in no worse off position by playing in Canada."

https://www.crowe.com/ca/...tm_campaign=View-Original

- lonnyBohonos


hmmmm....i wonder why burke hasn't be able to find another gm job?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 27 @ 11:55 AM ET
I would like to think this is not true as I have always sort of admired Burke. The problem is, it sure seems like he likes to be negative about the Leafs.
- Aetherial


When I'm watching the panels, I usually remark that what some of them are saying is wrong or dumb, but with Burke, I usually only say that when he's commentating about the Leafs.

I tend to agree with him a lot more when he talks about other teams.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 27 @ 11:56 AM ET
Yeah, seems like the kind of guy that would hack the back of your knees when you're looking the other way.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Right after you chirped him for elbowing you in the ear.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:58 AM ET
Good article that breaks it down but basically says that players with a US residence will really have no difference in pay than if they played in the US. ~~If the bulk of their getting max signing bonus. Which Toronto can do just fine.

"Based on the tax treaty between Canada and the United States, Canada can only tax signing bonuses at a maximum rate of 15%. Therefore, to the extent any income is subject to a maximum of 15% tax in Canada, a player will receive a full credit against their U.S. taxes for this income thus placing them in no worse off position by playing in Canada."

https://www.crowe.com/ca/...tm_campaign=View-Original

- lonnyBohonos



can you send this to all the donkeys in the Toronto media... so that they may read and understand...

and not spew the tax crap every couple of days?

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 27 @ 11:58 AM ET
Good article that breaks it down but basically says that players with a US residence will really have no difference in pay than if they played in the US. ~~If the bulk of their getting max signing bonus. Which Toronto can do just fine.

"Based on the tax treaty between Canada and the United States, Canada can only tax signing bonuses at a maximum rate of 15%. Therefore, to the extent any income is subject to a maximum of 15% tax in Canada, a player will receive a full credit against their U.S. taxes for this income thus placing them in no worse off position by playing in Canada."

https://www.crowe.com/ca/...tm_campaign=View-Original

- lonnyBohonos

Remember reading that when Phil signed here.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 27 @ 11:59 AM ET
can you send this to all the donkeys in the Toronto media... so that they may read and understand...

and not spew the tax crap every couple of days?

- BorjeFan4Ever


Not all Cdn teams can afford to pay complete salaries in a bonus structure like the leafs though.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:00 PM ET
kessel was a good player, still is.

in the overall spectrum....but hes a piece you add to help take you to the final step towards the cup. hes a goal scorer, not a team leader or guy you build your team around.

that's why hes stupid. He came in, tried to be a hero with a stupid trade that changed the franchise and it blew up in his face!

I was never a big fan of BB as you can see hah

- Lucas.Neilson


agreed... I wasn't trying to imply Kessel was a bad player... he's definitely a very good one... but Burke's judgement about where the team was, was certainly proven to be flawed.... time and time again.

BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:00 PM ET
Not all Cdn teams can afford to pay complete salaries in a bonus structure like the leafs though.
- Garnie


sucks for them
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:06 PM ET
sucks for them
- BorjeFan4Ever


Sort of, we have all the cash for loop holes and still have won jack.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:08 PM ET
hmmmm....i wonder why burke hasn't be able to find another gm job?
- Tumbleweed


I'm going out on a limb here...

1) because his evaluation of players and subsequent contracts has been wrong about 75-80% of the time

2) because he's abrasive and opinionated... kinda like Cherry stylistically, which works for a short time in the management office, but really is only suitable for obnoxious TV/Radio host type stuff

3) he can't tie a ...

you know.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 27 @ 12:14 PM ET
We could be talking about Max Domi's comments, or Puljujarvi signing in Finland, or McDavid's knee.

Or my favourite NFL teams QB suddenly retiring.

- Aetherial


Oh, yeah? Well mine apparently turned down a contract that would've given him $30M a season, because they say he wants more.

When in reality, he's barely a $20M QB.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 27 @ 12:14 PM ET
Right after you chirped him for elbowing you in the ear.
- Garnie


Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 27 @ 12:19 PM ET
Oh, yeah? Well mine apparently turned down a contract that would've given him $30M a season, because they say he wants more.

When in reality, he's barely a $20M QB.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Cowboys?
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 27 @ 12:21 PM ET
When Burke found out the NHL valued analytics over truculence...

Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 27 @ 12:21 PM ET
Burke's Leaf jealousy is absurd! He'll take any opportunity possible to poop on the Leafs and poop on Dubas. He held his envious tongue when Lou was GM but you can bet in private he was trash talking Lou too.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
Josh Donaldson's first game back at the Dome tonight. It's raining today. He is indeed the Bringer of Rain.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
Cowboys?
- AdamFrench


Yup
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