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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 27 @ 12:23 PM ET
did you read this one?

https://theathletic.com/1...u-think/?source=twittered

- Symba007

Good article.

Thanks for the link.

Here's a funnier/sadder one (10 years old now):

https://www.si.com/vault/...and-why-athletes-go-broke

RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 27 @ 12:25 PM ET
https://www.si.com/nhl/2016/03/01/brian-burke-necktie-always-untied-calgary-flames
- Atomic Wedgie



Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 27 @ 12:25 PM ET
Burke's Leaf jealousy is absurd! He'll take any opportunity possible to poop on the Leafs and poop on Dubas. He held his envious tongue when Lou was GM but you can bet in private he was trash talking Lou too.
- Njuice

It's nothing compared to Bill Watters' Leafs jealousy.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 27 @ 12:25 PM ET
agreed... I wasn't trying to imply Kessel was a bad player... he's definitely a very good one... but Burke's judgement about where the team was, was certainly proven to be flawed.... time and time again.
- BorjeFan4Ever


In fairness Toskala was not expected be the worst goalie in NHL history(pre-Bernier). The Leafs were never going to be a contender with Kessel though at the time - even without a turbo sieve. But we never should have been bad enough to give the Bruins Seguin at 2nd overall.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 27 @ 12:28 PM ET
Just getting around to reading DGB grab bag

"Patrik Laine: Has been proposing salary figures throughout July and August, so apparently he is capable of producing big numbers for more than one month a year."

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 27 @ 12:28 PM ET
In fairness Toskala was not expected be the worst goalie in NHL history(pre-Bernier). The Leafs were never going to be a contender with Kessel though at the time - even without a turbo sieve. But we never should have been bad enough to give the Bruins Seguin at 2nd overall.
- Njuice

Yes he was.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:29 PM ET
Sort of, we have all the cash for loop holes and still have won jack.
- Garnie


we haven't won jack primarily because of inept management and bad, repeatedly awful talent management...

the entire Ballard Era... which really went from unintentionally creating the WHA, losing more players to the WHA and the lingering effects of that, through progressively bringing in Europeans and then chosing to not sign further ones (figure that one out)...

what Burke did was similar - even if the personalities were different.

decades of ineptitude... and wasted talent.... and lots of wasted money...

and the advent of the salary cap which the Leafs really shot themselves in the foot with... totally unprepared for that.


at least at this point the Leafs are paying the most money to the most valuable players



gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 27 @ 12:30 PM ET
Burke's Leaf jealousy is absurd! He'll take any opportunity possible to poop on the Leafs and poop on Dubas. He held his envious tongue when Lou was GM but you can bet in private he was trash talking Lou too.
- Njuice

Burkey is definitely envious of the Leafs success which is something he couldn't accomplish as Leafs GM. But he has alot of respect for Lou. Lou was his GM years ago. He always mentions how much he learned from Lou.

Burke likes to say how smart Dubas is before he follows up with a few insults. Which is then followed by saying how smart Dubas is again. He's passive aggressive enough to hide it but the envy and bitterness is definitely there. 😂
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:30 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/jesse-...out-until-dec-1-1.1356486

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:30 PM ET
When Burke found out the NHL valued analytics over truculence...


- gergeswillems

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 27 @ 12:38 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/jesse-puljujarvi-signs-in-finland-with-nhl-opt-out-until-dec-1-1.1356486


- .HOHO.

Poor Oilers. I recall watching this kid dominating at the WJC with Laine and Aho and thinking he'd be a star.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I take Joel for walks around the block, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 27 @ 12:40 PM ET
Matthews>Marner>Tavares>
Rielly>Andersen>Barrie>
Nylander>Muzzin>Kapanen>
Dermott>Johnsson>Kerfoot>
Sandin>Hyman>Neuvirth>
Mikheyev>Moore>Ceci>
Spezza>Petan

Pay them all accordingly.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 27 @ 12:41 PM ET
Just getting around to reading DGB grab bag

"Patrik Laine: Has been proposing salary figures throughout July and August, so apparently he is capable of producing big numbers for more than one month a year."


- RickJames77


BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
Poor Oilers. I recall watching this kid dominating at the WJC with Laine and Aho and thinking he'd be a star.
- gergeswillems


Go back and watch the games again. You'll see very quickly that Aho is driving everything, Laine is the finisher, and Puljujarvi is just kind of there for the most part.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Aug 27 @ 12:47 PM ET
Lucas Neilson: Brian Burke thinks Auston Matthews will leave Toronto
Thoughts?

- Lucas.Neilson


#Truculence
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 27 @ 12:47 PM ET
we haven't won jack primarily because of inept management and bad, repeatedly awful talent management...

the entire Ballard Era... which really went from unintentionally creating the WHA, losing more players to the WHA and the lingering effects of that, through progressively bringing in Europeans and then chosing to not sign further ones (figure that one out)...

what Burke did was similar - even if the personalities were different.

decades of ineptitude... and wasted talent.... and lots of wasted money...

and the advent of the salary cap which the Leafs really shot themselves in the foot with... totally unprepared for that.


at least at this point the Leafs are paying the most money to the most valuable players

- BorjeFan4Ever

The Leafs signed Borje and Inge while Ballard was in jail.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 27 @ 12:49 PM ET
Go back and watch the games again. You'll see very quickly that Aho is driving everything, Laine is the finisher, and Puljujarvi is just kind of there for the most part.
- BINGO!

Explain the U18 sans Aho and Laine?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
In fairness Toskala was not expected be the worst goalie in NHL history(pre-Bernier). The Leafs were never going to be a contender with Kessel though at the time - even without a turbo sieve. But we never should have been bad enough to give the Bruins Seguin at 2nd overall.
- Njuice


Toskala did play poorly in Toronto for sure... but he had help. Luminaries like Komisarek, Brett Lebda (yes Burke signed this donkey as a FreeAgent), the Frogren experiment, Jamie Sifers ... the list goes on.

actually Toskala started out sharing the net the with Raycrap...

how Burke believed that that roster would be competitive by adding Kessel is just silly
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Aug 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
The Leafs signed Borje and Inge while Ballard was in jail.
- Atomic Wedgie



ya... I know.

then they had a chance to sign Hedberg and Nilsson about 2-3 years later - when they subsequently joined the Jets... and Ballard wouldn't fork out the money.... such an idiot.

there were other Swedish players which would have been easily convinced to join Salming in Toronto...

then he trades Lanny and eventually Sittler dealt because he doesn't want to pay them.

stupid, senile, greedy old man.

the same ass-clown that chased Keon out of town.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
ya... I know.

then they had a chance to sign Hedberg and Nilsson about 2-3 years later - when they subsequently joined the Jets... and Ballard wouldn't fork out the money.... such an idiot.

there were other Swedish players which would have been easily convinced to join Salming in Toronto...

then he trades Lanny and eventually Sittler dealt because he doesn't want to pay them.

stupid, senile, greedy old man.

the same ass-clown that chased Keon out of town.

- BorjeFan4Ever

I still recall as a kid in 1983 watching Harold Ballard on TV being asked if he worried about all the empty seats in Maple Leaf Gardens. He answered "Why should I care? All those seats are paid for."
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
Matthews>Marner>Tavares>
Rielly>Andersen>Barrie>
Nylander>Muzzin>Kapanen>
Dermott>Johnsson>Kerfoot>
Sandin>Hyman>Neuvirth>
Mikheyev>Moore>Ceci>
Spezza>Petan

Pay them all accordingly.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Creemore Lot 9>Coors Banquet>Molson Canadian
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
Poor Oilers. I recall watching this kid dominating at the WJC with Laine and Aho and thinking he'd be a star.
- gergeswillems


Poor Puljujärvi, the way the Oilers handled is dev
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:09 PM ET
Burke's Leaf jealousy is absurd! He'll take any opportunity possible to poop on the Leafs and poop on Dubas. He held his envious tongue when Lou was GM but you can bet in private he was trash talking Lou too.
- Njuice

I dont think so.
Ive heard him say nothing but good things about the leafs since he left.
Hes just honest and shares his opinions

No biggie
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Aug 27 @ 1:11 PM ET



- .HOHO.


Could stare at that all day
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
Creemore Lot 9>Coors Banquet>Molson Canadian
- TheMussel

Mussel > Wedgie > Scabs - pay them accordingly

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