I'm the first to jump all over goaltenders and their shortcomings but without Miller his first season in Van we don't make no PO's. Now his second and third seasons lol...
- LordHumungous

How many fewer wins could they possibly have had?

Neal Casal RIP.

Ryan Adams & the Cardinals and The Chris Robinson Brotherhood as well as Circles Around the Sun.

get out of here with that weak ass trolling, it's going to take a lot more effort to get me to whip out my internet d!ck and start stroking it for you you.

BJ, Annoyance 101, and Scooby would be disappointed in you
- belcherbd

No. Minivan stated last blog that my presence is driving everyone away. So I was worried that I may have offended you and you would no longer come here.

I thought Vantel gave me a pass but apparently I’m still a monster... a monster who still thinks Miller was a piece of poop.

How many fewer wins could they possibly have had?
- 1970vintage

Lack would have been our number 1, so I imagine a significant amount.

No. Minivan stated last blog that my presence is driving everyone away. So I was worried that I may have offended you and you would no longer come here.

I thought Vantel gave me a pass but apparently I’m still a monster... a monster who still thinks Miller was a piece of poop.
- bloatedmosquito

He wasn’t a piece of poop. He was the kernel of corn in said poop.

He wasn’t a piece of poop. He was the kernel of corn in said poop.
- CubanBuffet

Wow Cuban, I think that’s the nastiest post I’ve seen you write. It made me happy.

I generally don’t dump on a player but something about Miller rubbed me the wrong way. I didn’t think he was a particularly good face for the team. His media interactions were horrendous.

No. Minivan stated last blog that my presence is driving everyone away. So I was worried that I may have offended you and you would no longer come here.

I thought Vantel gave me a pass but apparently I’m still a monster... a monster who still thinks Miller was a piece of poop.
- bloatedmosquito

But... that’s just factually incorrect so... you’re not really offending anyone.cause no one cares that much and Miller was undeniably a good player for us so ya... carry on.

Wow Cuban, I think that’s the nastiest post I’ve seen you write. It made me happy.

I generally don’t dump on a player but something about Miller rubbed me the wrong way. I didn’t think he was a particularly good face for the team. His media interactions were horrendous.
- bloatedmosquito

Well played.

No. Minivan stated last blog that my presence is driving everyone away. So I was worried that I may have offended you and you would no longer come here.

I thought Vantel gave me a pass but apparently I’m still a monster... a monster who still thinks Miller was a piece of poop.
- bloatedmosquito

I don't know if it's just your avatar but you've always reminded me of a scarecrow.

Just scary enough to keep the dumbest birds away.

But... that’s just factually incorrect so... you’re not really offending anyone.cause no one cares that much and Miller was undeniably a good player for us so ya... carry on.
- neem55

Undeniably? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

I think there is a load of deniable (a dumpster full of deniable) that his presence on this team had any meaningful impact.

Undeniably? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

I think there is a load of deniable (a dumpster full of deniable) that his presence on this team had any meaningful impact.
- bloatedmosquito

I see your point. Much like the Sedins since 2012 . Keeping them in mediocrity . Stinting the rebuild. Not getting prospects back in a trade. Seems like Canucks have been in that mode long before Benning

Undeniably? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

I think there is a load of deniable (a dumpster full of deniable) that his presence on this team had any meaningful impact.
- bloatedmosquito

Numbers are either good or bad. For example, mcdavid had a good because he had over 100 points. Miller was good for us cause his save percentage was over .910 every year for us. Some numbers just indicate success or ability that, yes, is undeniable. Even if you didnt care for his interviews

I see your point. Much like the Sedins since 2012 . Keeping them in mediocrity . Stinting the rebuild. Not getting prospects back in a trade. Seems like Canucks have been in that mode long before Benning
- VANTEL

The best argument so far is the positive impact the playoffs had on Bo. That was from nucker and it’s still pretty weak.

Bo did play well in the 6 games he played but funny enough Miller only played three of those six.

Numbers are either good or bad. For example, mcdavid had a good because he had over 100 points. Miller was good for us cause his save percentage was over .910 every year for us. Some numbers just indicate success or ability that, yes, is undeniable. Even if you didnt care for his interviews
- neem55

So what? An above average save percentage during regular season and one playoff win in 3 years. Meaningless.

You got anything else?

The best argument so far is the positive impact the playoffs had on Bo. That was from nucker and it’s still pretty weak.

Bo did play well on the 6 games he played but funny enough Miller only played three of those six.
- bloatedmosquito

Well Nucker is trolling so if you want to talk seriously the most crippling thing in the last decade was hanging on to the twins and trying to build around them.

I laugh at you guys when I see the comments about high draft picks and prospects. Can you imagine what the return on the Twins would have been and imagine finishing last place without them seven years ago?

Everyone knew it was time but we hung on for five more years hoping they could have one more shot.

Hate to tell you I told you so but I told you so.

I see your point. Much like the Sedins since 2012 . Keeping them in mediocrity . Stinting the rebuild. Not getting prospects back in a trade. Seems like Canucks have been in that mode long before Benning
- VANTEL

Won't get anything for Tanev or Edler.

Well Nucker is trolling so if you want to talk seriously the most crippling thing in the last decade was hanging on to the twins and trying to build around them.

I laugh at you guys when I see the comments about high draft picks and prospects. Can you imagine what the return on the Twins would have been and imagine finishing last place without them seven years ago?

Everyone knew it was time but we hung on for five more years hoping they could have one more shot.

Hate to tell you I told you so but I told you so.
- VANTEL

You took a lot of heat for recognizing the future problems of trying to stay competitive by riding out the Sedins for another 6 years. Ironically its the same group of people who have lost their sh!t over Benning stepping in and attempting what you warned them of.

Won't get anything for Tanev or Edler.
- VanHockeyGuy

All roads lead back to hanging on too long to players . Signing players that come as a package is beyond stupid also.

You took a lot of heat for recognizing the future problems of trying to stay competitive by riding out the Sedins for another 6 years. Ironically its the same group of people who have lost their sh!t over Benning stepping in and attempting what you warned them of.
- boonerbuck

I agree

All roads lead back to hanging on too long to players . Signing players that come as a package is beyond stupid also.
- VANTEL

Yup, and it won't change anytime soon. Like DCT said, there may be a window to trade Markstrom and even get a reasonable return. We'll see if that ever materializes.

Yup, and it won't change anytime soon. Like DCT said, there may be a window to trade Markstrom and even get a reasonable return. We'll see if that ever materializes.
- VanHockeyGuy

It depends on Demko. There’s no window unless Demko opens it. And of course, Markstrom needs to replicate last season to have any value as a rental.

Yup, and it won't change anytime soon. Like DCT said, there may be a window to trade Markstrom and even get a reasonable return. We'll see if that ever materializes.
- VanHockeyGuy

It is a fair point by DCT . I am not sure I agree about moving him in the offseason but I can see a goalie move at TDL

It depends on Demko. There’s no window unless Demko opens it. And of course, Markstrom needs to replicate last season to have any value as a rental.
- CubanBuffet

So what? An above average save percentage during regular season and one playoff win in 3 years. Meaningless.

You got anything else?
- bloatedmosquito

In 2015/2016, Miller had a .919 S%, tied for 30th among goalies who played 20 or more games.

The Canucks finished 6th in the division, 13th in the conference with a goal differential of -52.

So I ask again, just how much worse could they have been without Miller? One spot in the division/conference, two spots in the league.

Miller wasn’t bad, but he had ZERO impact on team success, because there wasn’t any.