They don't want to spend money on a rb because it is foolish. let's try not to do dumb things.
- Slump Buster

Paying old RBs big money is foolish I agree

I am not arguing that

But wouldn't it be in your best interest while you have your franchise QB on his rookie deal to get him the best play makers around him before you have to pay him franchise QB money?

Paying old RBs big money is foolish I agree

I am not arguing that

But wouldn't it be in your best interest while you have your franchise QB on his rookie deal to get him the best play makers around him before you have to pay him franchise QB money?
- Stripes77

McCoy was not in the top 3 imo. If they were going to keep 4, I still would have had Murphy over him

Paying old RBs big money is foolish I agree

I am not arguing that

But wouldn't it be in your best interest while you have your franchise QB on his rookie deal to get him the best play makers around him before you have to pay him franchise QB money?
- Stripes77

Sure, you just don't do it with big money backs. That ship sailed for a reason. Gordon had similar stars as his backup. Same with Bell in pittsburgh. Don't get caught up in brands.

McCoy was not in the top 3 imo. If they were going to keep 4, I still would have had Murphy over him
- jcragcrumple

Oh I agree

This is a reply to my post about trading for Gordon or Zeke

Nothing to do with McCoy

Oh I agree

This is a reply to my post about trading for Gordon or Zeke

Nothing to do with McCoy
- Stripes77

Oh my bad

Sure, you just don't do it with big money backs. That ship sailed for a reason. Gordon had similar stars as his backup. Same with Bell in pittsburgh. Don't get caught up in brands.
- Slump Buster

Gordon and Bell had Pro Bowl QBs

Gordon and Bell had Pro Bowl QBs
- Stripes77

Exactly. Star qbs can help a running game. It doesn't work in the other direction . See Giants, NY.

Exactly. Star qbs can help a running game. It doesn't work in the other direction . See Giants, NY.
- Slump Buster

See Zeke in Dallas to say the opposite

Exactly. Star qbs can help a running game. It doesn't work in the other direction . See Giants, NY.
- Slump Buster

Trubisky is an average QB at best playing in a very creative Matt Nagy scheme. It’s a shame their kicker blew their chance at a ring. Strong defence and running game wins in the playoffs.

See Zeke in Dallas to say the opposite
- Stripes77

Strong running game, strong defence.

See Zeke in Dallas to say the opposite
- Stripes77

You're implying that Prescott isn't a decent qb. We will soon find out. Now only 9 back making more than 6 mill a year. You must know something that everyone else does not.

Strong running game, strong defence.
- Swedish_Jesus

You're kidding, right?

Strong running game, strong defence.
- Swedish_Jesus

I believe the Bills have a strong defense

A good running game would help Allen in the passing game

Dak threw for 3900 yards last season with the help of a strong running game

You're implying that Prescott isn't a decent qb. We will soon find out. Now only 9 back making more than 6 mill a year. You must know something that everyone else does not.
- Slump Buster

You have a QB on a rookie deal

Before you have to pay said QB give him all the support he needs

If that is a bigger money RB then so be it

The Bills have almost $30 million in cap space

Having a big money RB is not going to hurt them

You have a QB on a rookie deal

Before you have to pay said QB give him all the support he needs

If that is a bigger money RB then so be it

The Bills have almost $30 million in cap space

Having a big money RB is not going to hurt them
- Stripes77

I don't disagree with any of that with the exception that it is completelyunnecessary. Gordon had one decent season. There 2 or 3 stars and the rest of them can be thrown in a hat.

I don't disagree with any of that with the exception that it is completelyunnecessary. Gordon had one decent season. There 2 or 3 stars and the rest of them can be thrown in a hat.
- Slump Buster

Averaging 1400 total yards of offense his last 3 seasons is "decent"?

12 TDs
12 TDs
14 TDs

His last 3 seasons total amount of TDs

If there is ever a time to have a good big money RB on your roster it's right now

You're kidding, right?
- Slump Buster

Big Bens first ring, Peyton Manning’s last ring, Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Both of Eli Manning’s rings.

The Seahawks legion of doom destroyed the best offence of all time 43-8 in the SuperBowl.

How did the Rodgers led packers do last year without a defence or running game ?

How do the Stafford led Lions do every year ?

How did the Brees led Saints do before they got Kamara and a defence ? Multiple years of mediocrity and he’s going to set every passing record of all time.

The franking Bills make the playoffs once in what feels like 80 years on the back of a strong running game and defence.

Tim Tebow has more playoff wins then half of the NFL rosters in the last 10 years

I believe the Bills have a strong defense

A good running game would help Allen in the passing game

Dak threw for 3900 yards last season with the help of a strong running game
- Stripes77

Dak is a taller version of tyrod Taylor. He’s not even close to great. Average at best.

Big Bens first ring, Peyton Manning’s last ring, Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Both of Eli Manning’s rings.

The Seahawks legion of doom destroyed the best offence of all time 43-8 in the SuperBowl.

How did the Rodgers led packers do last year without a defence or running game ?

How do the Stafford led Lions do every year ?

How did the Brees led Saints do before they got Kamara and a defence ? Multiple years of mediocrity and he’s going to set every passing record of all time.

The franking Bills make the playoffs once in what feels like 80 years on the back of a strong running game and defence.

Tim Tebow has more playoff wins then half of the NFL rosters in the last 10 years
- Swedish_Jesus

I question whether you watched that game

Averaging 1400 total yards of offense his last 3 seasons is "decent"?

12 TDs
12 TDs
14 TDs

His last 3 seasons total amount of TDs

If there is ever a time to have a good big money RB on your roster it's right now
- Stripes77

Says nobody in the league. It isn't a coincidence that the money is being spent offensive linemen and quarterbacks. Big money rb is something for the foolish teams to do. It isn't a coincidence that the Patriots never pay a back.

Big Bens first ring, Peyton Manning’s last ring, Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Both of Eli Manning’s rings.

The Seahawks legion of doom destroyed the best offence of all time 43-8 in the SuperBowl.

How did the Rodgers led packers do last year without a defence or running game ?

How do the Stafford led Lions do every year ?

How did the Brees led Saints do before they got Kamara and a defence ? Multiple years of mediocrity and he’s going to set every passing record of all time.

The franking Bills make the playoffs once in what feels like 80 years on the back of a strong running game and defence.

Tim Tebow has more playoff wins then half of the NFL rosters in the last 10 years
- Swedish_Jesus

You're making a completely different argument. I am not saying that those things don't matter. QB and offensive line matter the most. Smart coaching matters. Having good runnings backs that are cheap helps. Spend the money on the line, not the RB.

It's amazing that the dinosaurs still go back 20 years ago to mention Trent Diler. Different league back then. P Manning squeaked one out in his final year because of stud D play (they wisely spent the money there). People forget that Joe Flacco and E Manning played out of their minds in the playoffs.

It's the same thing with goalies. You want a goalie to be hot in the playoffs and goaltending absolutely matters.... just don't pay them.

Also, New England again won the super bowl with a statistically bad D and a stable of very cheap backs.

I question whether you watched that game
- jcragcrumple

That was essentially one play. The Giants were able to pressure Brady up the middle. That's why they won.

Defense and running game still ultimately wins you Championships. The difference is that now this is a league where the passing game is what gets you there.

Says nobody in the league. It isn't a coincidence that the money is being spent offensive linemen and quarterbacks. Big money rb is something for the foolish teams to do. It isn't a coincidence that the Patriots never pay a back.
- Slump Buster

The Patriots have the best QB of all time comparing anything they do to what the Bills do is crazy

The Bills have spent money on their OL

They don't have to spend money on their QB at the moment because he is on his rookie deal

So if you have the ability to spend it without it hurting your ability to pay said QB when his rookie deal expires why wouldn't you?

Clowney is a Seahawk

I question whether you watched that game
- jcragcrumple

They held Brady to 14 points because they had two bookend pass rushers and could afford to get after the passer with 4 guys and not bringing a rush.