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TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Aug 31 @ 2:05 PM ET
+1 on most of those ideas.

-100 on the musical guests.

- GalacticStone


James---
First column I have read from you in months ( I had given up on you ). Some good ideas here, minus the music, ---- I hope that you can sustain this.
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

Aug 31 @ 2:09 PM ET
I like almost none of your ideas. I like the TSN panels and broadcast and will generally watch between periods. Sportsnets panels are garbage.

Don and Ron are legends who should be on TV as long as they want.


Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Aug 31 @ 2:31 PM ET
The broadcasts are fine because they're pandering to their target audience, the olds. No one under 40 has the attention span anymore to sit through commercials, let alone an 18-minute intermission.

Let them yell at each other. Old people like yelling. Everyone else has a phone or a billion other things to occupy their goldfish attention between breaks in the hockey. They'd be happy with nothing but a black screen and a countdown timer for intermissions.
Za Warudo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.20.2019

Aug 31 @ 2:32 PM ET
He's 35 but pretends he's a millennial. His likeness for Elliot Friedman is creepy.
- gergeswillems


35 would mean born in either 1983 or ‘84, which would, by definition, be a millennial.

https://time.com/5181677/...ow-if-youre-a-millennial/
Gertner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.04.2017

Aug 31 @ 2:39 PM ET
Remember the time James got owned by Bill Meltzer in his own blog?
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Aug 31 @ 3:18 PM ET
I can't recall if he's 35 or 38. It doesn't matter. Jimmy will still pretend he's 25. But anyone born between 1981 and 1996 is a millennial? Really? That's quite the gap. 15 years? I never viewed Serena Williams as being a millennial but since she was born in 1981 I guess she's a millennial even though she won her first grand Slam in 1999.

I always thought millennials were people born in 2000 or after. I can admit to being wrong. Tanner can't. I was born in 1975. Does this make me a baby boomer? I always thought my parents were baby boomers. I'm confused.

It's no wonder Jimmy wants people his own age to be hired by Sportsnet. Not him of course. 10 years of writing for hockey buzz making $5 per blog hasn't gotten him anywhere. Other people who've written for hockey buzz have gone on to bigger and better things.

Not Jimmy though. He's still insulting people with no accountability and whining to Captain EO/Ek to ban people because he can dish it out but can't take it.

- gergeswillems


According to that article's definition I would be a millenial, but I never felt like one.

For me a millenial is someone who's always grown with technology, and has no idea of the pre-internet age. So basically born 1995 and after.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 31 @ 3:19 PM ET
According to that article's definition I would be a millenial, but I never felt like one.

For me a millenial is someone who's always grown with technology, and has no idea of the pre-internet age. So basically born 1995 and after.

- redseerpf

That's what I thought but apparently I'm wrong. 😂
Za Warudo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.20.2019

Aug 31 @ 3:27 PM ET
According to that article's definition I would be a millenial, but I never felt like one.

For me a millenial is someone who's always grown with technology, and has no idea of the pre-internet age. So basically born 1995 and after.

- redseerpf


A common cultural marker for many Millenials was supporting Obama (and having his “Hope” poster in your dorm room) in 2008. How would a 13 year old born in 1995 do that?

Taylor Swift, born 1989, is the High Priestess of Millenialdom. Did you think she was part of the WWII Generation or something?
Dr Blob
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.30.2018

Aug 31 @ 3:31 PM ET
Who is Regis? This is the second reference I've seen to him but I only know of the guy from that game show.
- James_Tanner

Pierre McGuire
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Aug 31 @ 3:32 PM ET
A common cultural marker for many Millenials was supporting Obama (and having his “Hope” poster in your dorm room) in 2008. How would a 13 year old born in 1995 do that?

Taylor Swift, born 1989, is the High Priestess of Millenialdom. Did you think she was part of the WWII Generation or something?

- Za Warudo


In the USA, that might be the case. I can assure you nobody gives a crap about Taylor Swift where I'm from, pre or post-1995 millenial.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 31 @ 3:34 PM ET
The broadcasts are fine because they're pandering to their target audience, the olds. No one under 40 has the attention span anymore to sit through commercials, let alone an 18-minute intermission.

Let them yell at each other. Old people like yelling. Everyone else has a phone or a billion other things to occupy their goldfish attention between breaks in the hockey. They'd be happy with nothing but a black screen and a countdown timer for intermissions.

- Hunkulese

I'd love the countdown timer, that is a great idea.
freedomgundam
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.26.2007

Aug 31 @ 3:44 PM ET
The only thing I agree with is cutting Ron and Don. I would be sad to see Ron go, but Don is a loony and I can't fathom why anybody takes him seriously. He was dead to me after the one Coach's Corner during the Olympics where he spend literally the entire segment spouting conspiracy theories about how the one Russian linesman was out to get us.

Not to say there aren't lots of problems in general. The only good way to fix them is for the NHL to wait until the contact is up and then give it to TSN where it belongs.
DarthProbert
Joined: 06.29.2016

Aug 31 @ 3:56 PM ET
I'm with you James for the most part(I could nitpick here or there but big deal).

You Need a Positive, Fun Vibe

It's a hockey show, not a funeral.


I think above all else, this is the big one. I come home from a day at work, I got things to do at home, when I put on a game, I want a fun, positive, good time. Most broadcasts now, I gotta mute them or at least ignore anything other than the actual gameplay. It's a big part of why I've become more and more of an Avs fan the last couple years; their games' broadcasts just have a fun vibe to them, even when I hate the tune playing or disagree with the commentary. It allows my escape from the drudgery of every day life instead of compounding it.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 31 @ 4:14 PM ET
Musical guests are just for opening and closing. Arcade Fire is one of the best bands of all-time.
- James_Tanner


Are they one of the best of all time by a mile and it's so not close that it's insane? Objectively, of course.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Aug 31 @ 4:43 PM ET
James Tanner: A Note to Sportsnet on How to Properly Broadcast a Hockey Game
- James_Tanner



Ummm... Some of those points are valid. But Ron Mclean is great. Heck he could probably run for Prime Minister and win if he wanted. So well spoken and so genuine to everyone he meets. The rest of the cast, I agree, is painful!!!! I think finding some younger guys who played in the league and recently retired (luongo, biznasty, etc), would be a great idea but they need sportnet to allow actual personality. And I truly believe that it has to be ex players with inside knowledge and stories to share. Strombolobopoious was the biggest disgrace, yet met most of your criteria for a quality broadcaster.

That one season with Ron was painful.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Aug 31 @ 4:52 PM ET
In the USA, that might be the case. I can assure you nobody gives a crap about Taylor Swift where I'm from, pre or post-1995 millenial.
- redseerpf


Typically the millennials range from mid-80’s to about 96/97. A way of looking at it is if you remember 9/11 you’re a millennial, if you don’t you’re what’s called Gen Z.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 31 @ 6:38 PM ET
Please just pick a new sport to like and write about. FML
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Aug 31 @ 6:44 PM ET
Typically the millennials range from mid-80’s to about 96/97. A way of looking at it is if you remember 9/11 you’re a millennial, if you don’t you’re what’s called Gen Z.
- RedC21


Yeah I guess that's it. I just feel the "millenial" tag actually works better for the Zs.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 31 @ 7:27 PM ET
Agree that sportsmen is awful, but TSN is still pretty good. Guys like Ferraro, Maclennan, Duthie, Mackenzie, etc are great. There are obviously some bad guys at TSN too, but overall they’re pretty solid.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 31 @ 7:36 PM ET
James Tanner: A Note to Sportsnet on How to Properly Broadcast a Hockey Game
- James_Tanner


What? You don't like the eloquent, thoughtful Brad May type in the intermissions? My God, the guy used to break a sweat just thinking. Talking? Forget about it.

MSG's graphics are horrendous, you'd think a company based in NY would be able to find better designers, but you'd be wrong, and the fact they force all their, for lack of a better word, affiliates, Buffalo, Islanders, and New Jersey to use the same awful music and graphics makes it even worse. Hurricane 2000 was an amazing intro for Sabres games, now it's something that some bumhole slapped together in 20 minutes in GarageBand. It's awful:



The old one is dated, sure,(and I'm not sure how well The Stones fit in) but it's infinitely better than the new bland garbage:



shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Aug 31 @ 7:46 PM ET
MacLean and Kypreos were awful. Just total nonsense most of the time. And when Kypreos tried to do a serious bit he would get tongue tied.
Hate to see people get fired but they don’t need the money.

I like Gord Stellick though, very quick witted.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Aug 31 @ 7:49 PM ET
Yeah I guess that's it. I just feel the "millenial" tag actually works better for the Zs.
- redseerpf

Every generation thinks the next one is spoiled. I think every generation has its hardships.
nyhawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.12.2013

Aug 31 @ 8:24 PM ET
I think Chris Cuthbert is one of the better play by play guys going . I wish he had a more regular role here in the States, but he usually gets a TSN game every week it seems .
rlgray96
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: OH
Joined: 02.12.2014

Aug 31 @ 9:23 PM ET
That might be the stupidest blog I have ever read....
WJDiedrich
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 31 @ 11:24 PM ET
I disagree with all of this.
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