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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
Remember the move the Gigolo with Rob Schneider? It was hilarious
- VANTEL


yup, a beauty.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 1 @ 3:32 PM ET

- VANTEL


Great grandmilf... the best kind!
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 1 @ 4:36 PM ET
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 1 @ 4:50 PM ET
Maybe people just enjoying long weekend
- VANTEL


I know. Just trying to get the conversation started.

Didn’t help much.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Sep 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
His balls are riding high is all.
- boonerbuck

Must have been a banned substance
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Sep 1 @ 5:51 PM ET
I have been busy all weekend avoiding the wife.
- VANTEL

I bet the Honey-Do list is getting enormous!
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 1 @ 8:13 PM ET
It's training camp month Green must be chomping at the bit to blend his lines and D parings. If not careful he might go blind with all the choices he has compared to the past.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 1 @ 9:39 PM ET
I bet the Honey-Do list is getting enormous!
- Shuswap Wap



Always
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 1 @ 9:58 PM ET
It's training camp month Green must be chomping at the bit to blend his lines and D parings. If not careful he might go blind with all the choices he has compared to the past.
- NuckUp

So, I guess you didn't read/listen to the interviews were he talked about the potential of having set lines this season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 1 @ 10:27 PM ET
Ryan Reaves and Evander Kane Twitter wars heating up
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 1 @ 11:09 PM ET
That's not what happens though. If your compensation includes a bonus or profit sharing if your employer hits certain sales levels, and then doesn't hit those sales levels, do you think you've been cheated when you don't get paid the bonus?

The difference with the players is that their bonus is assumed, paid as salary and clawed back if the targets aren't met. I'd expect the amount paid back to the players out of escrow is proportional as well, rather than an all or nothing situation.

I'm just surprised we haven't seen a more detailed explanation of how the escrow arrangement actually works. Especially now that it's supposed to be the hot button that may trigger a push by the players to renegotiate the CBA.

- YeOldTimer


Ya, sorry I do t get the comparable.
Profit sharing and commission are often based off of performance, seniority and a number of other factors.

Players do have bonuses included in contracts whether that is performance or signing related.

Escrow essentially allows the owners to overpromise on contracts and rarely, I think only 2 or 3 times since its inception pay out the full negotiated amount.

It allows the GM's to sign FA's to outrageous contracts each year and artificially inflate the salary cap and the players across the board lose a portion of their contracted salary.

If you are hired at 80K a year would you be okay giving up 8-10K of that up in order to hire a coworker at 100K?



Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Sep 2 @ 12:08 AM ET
Ryan Reaves and Evander Kane Twitter wars heating up
- VANTEL

Glad we stayed away from Kane, he is a cancer and his off ice poop never stops.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Sep 2 @ 12:32 AM ET
https://www.foxnews.com/e...chwarzenegger-best-friend
I wonder how Dragon is taking this news?
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Sep 2 @ 1:04 AM ET
https://www.foxnews.com/e...chwarzenegger-best-friend
I wonder how Dragon is taking this news?

- Shuswap Wap

Since i spent decades in powerlifting I remember Franco from his strongman competitions, especially the fridge walk.
I don't know much about his bodybuilding career as I really dont follow that. Bodybuilding i laugh at.

Franco was a very interesting person if you listen to Arnold's accounts of their adventures together.
It mentions getting ill during swimming but no cause of death. Interesting

**some sites report he fell ill while swimming and later died in hospital...Another site says he drowned....quite opposing reports
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 1:15 AM ET
[quote=SMBDragon]


He was 80 . My guess of cause of death ? I will go oit on a limb and guess old age or he got the Viagra mixed up with the blood pressure pills.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Sep 2 @ 1:34 AM ET
[quote=VANTEL]
with all the juice these guys took, I'm surprised any of them are still alive.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:14 AM ET
[quote=VANTEL]
It seems his cause of death isn't something they wish to put in the news. Perhaps he was attacked by a creature while swimming in the Mediterranean.....that would make sense. Maybe jellyfish
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 9:39 AM ET
[quote=SMBDragon]

When you are 80 cause of death is not important . What doesn't kill you this week then something else will get you next week.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 2 @ 10:21 AM ET
It seems his cause of death isn't something they wish to put in the news. Perhaps he was attacked by a creature while swimming in the Mediterranean.....that would make sense. Maybe jellyfish
- SMBDragon

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
20-21 Free agents not all of them but worthy looks. UFA's
Centers - Mikael Granlund, Brayden Schenn

Left Wing - Taylor Hall, Alex Galchenyuk, Chris Kreider,

Right Wing - Tyler Toffoli, Vladislav Namestnikov

Left Defence - Torey Krug, TJ, Brodie, Jake Muzzin, Roman Josi, Brendan Dillon, Joel Edmundson

Right Defence - Alex Pietrangelo, Tyson Barrie, Justin Faulk, Christopher Tanev, Travis Hamonic

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 2 @ 11:29 AM ET
20-21 Free agents not all of them but worthy looks. UFA's
Centers - Mikael Granlund, Brayden Schenn

Left Wing - Taylor Hall, Alex Galchenyuk, Chris Kreider,

Right Wing - Tyler Toffoli, Vladislav Namestnikov

Left Defence - Torey Krug, TJ, Brodie, Jake Muzzin, Roman Josi, Brendan Dillon, Joel Edmundson

Right Defence - Alex Pietrangelo, Tyson Barrie, Justin Faulk, Christopher Tanev, Travis Hamonic

- manvanfan

The Canucks are set for the next 2 or 3 years. They don't need any of those guys.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 2 @ 11:40 AM ET
Ya, sorry I do t get the comparable.
Profit sharing and commission are often based off of performance, seniority and a number of other factors.

Players do have bonuses included in contracts whether that is performance or signing related.

Escrow essentially allows the owners to overpromise on contracts and rarely, I think only 2 or 3 times since its inception pay out the full negotiated amount.

It allows the GM's to sign FA's to outrageous contracts each year and artificially inflate the salary cap and the players across the board lose a portion of their contracted salary.

If you are hired at 80K a year would you be okay giving up 8-10K of that up in order to hire a coworker at 100K?

- belcherbd


You can't compare the salary of an athlete who's CBA specifically states that revenues are split equally and a guy working in an office. More similar would be an actor who agrees to a salary based on the box office take, or a band who gets paid based on ticket and merchandise sales for a concert. Do you think a promoter is going to pay based on best case scenario before the show even starts?
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 2 @ 11:49 AM ET
20-21 Free agents not all of them but worthy looks. UFA's
Centers - Mikael Granlund, Brayden Schenn

Left Wing - Taylor Hall, Alex Galchenyuk, Chris Kreider,

Right Wing - Tyler Toffoli, Vladislav Namestnikov

Left Defence - Torey Krug, TJ, Brodie, Jake Muzzin, Roman Josi, Brendan Dillon, Joel Edmundson

Right Defence - Alex Pietrangelo, Tyson Barrie, Justin Faulk, Christopher Tanev, Travis Hamonic

- manvanfan

the team's going to need a starting goalie next year.

does demko step up so that the team only needs to sign a backup? that would make life easier! if not, re-sign marky? cost?

does the team go after a bigger name ufa next year? how would that affect the asks for the rfa's (EP, QH) coming the next year?

this season is huge! not only on the ice but off. things could go extremely well and the team is a contender within 2-3 seasons or they could be a team with a few high-end pieces with a mess of a cap/roster.

beats being boring though but jb is on a tightrope.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 12:00 PM ET
Great grandmilf... the best kind!

- boonerbuck

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 12:09 PM ET
Justin Williams retires


Edit : Stepping away from the game. Not officially retired
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