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Tyler Cameron
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Sep 2 @ 2:35 PM ET
Just a few clarifying comments: The Wild were a pretty good team prior to Dumba and Koivu going down. Those key injuries were the main reason they stopped scoring. On your projected lineups, Rask is not expected to start the season on the main team. Kunin is projected out at the 2nd line center spot with Parise and hobbit. BB has said he'd like Fiala to play with Staal and Zucker on the top line. Dumba is now the top right D with Suter, Spurgeon is the 2nd pairing D with Brodin. I expect the team, if healthy, to be in the mix for the final wildcard spot just because the pacific is weak after the top 3 teams.
- mnhockeyguy


Thanks for the insight, mnhockeyguy!

You clearly watch these guys more than I.

If Rask doesn't make the team, is that one of the worst trades they've made in recent years?
Tyler Cameron
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Sep 2 @ 2:37 PM ET
Hey Tyler, any rumors (or even rumours) about possible PTO invitees to Blackhawks' camp?
- matt_ahrens


Not hearing anything in terms of PTOs.

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't extend any PTOs.

I think the Hawks are quite happy with the quality of players at every position heading into camp.

This will be the most competitive training camp in years. Looking forward to it.
mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild
Location: Frostbite Falls, MN
Joined: 10.23.2014

Sep 2 @ 3:48 PM ET
Thanks for the insight, mnhockeyguy!

You clearly watch these guys more than I.

If Rask doesn't make the team, is that one of the worst trades they've made in recent years?

- Tyler Cameron

The moment it was signed it was definitely the worst trade in Wild history and right up there with some real doozies in the history of the NHL.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 3:56 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/hurricanes/news/canes-williams-announces-break-from-nhl/c-308820354

Curious what impact this type of thing has on their cap situation. Was he inspired by Colts' Luck?

- pdx2ord

None. He isn't signed. He may have been inspired by the lack of offers, too. He is a UFA.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 3:58 PM ET
If there was sufficient Cap space to sign Perlini to a $1.85M AAV contract - I would have no problem with it because that is the market cost of Perlini - but there isn't sufficient Cap space, at least not without another deal or two making it work. The calculus is not whether Perlini is worth $1.85M - the market says he is - it's whether its worth it for the Hawks to have Perlini minus whatever they move out to make the Cap work versus not having Perlini plus whatever they can get for him in a trade.
- EbonyRaptor

He isn't worth a contract or roster slot. He will be traded before the season. Expected return of a 5th or later.

Yeah yeah, he has size, speed blahblah. He is not a good hockey player.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 4:00 PM ET
Not hearing anything in terms of PTOs.

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't extend any PTOs.

I think the Hawks are quite happy with the quality of players at every position heading into camp.

This will be the most competitive training camp in years. Looking forward to it.

- Tyler Cameron

Good. poopty teams are the ones signing PTOs looking for some organizational depth. Hawks have that. In reality, what bums out there would be a better risk than Versteeg who is already part of Rockford and right in the Hawks' backyard. AS it were.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 4:01 PM ET
Of course. This needs to be said. Screw the Wild and their silly ass name.
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 2 @ 4:14 PM ET
He isn't worth a contract or roster slot. He will be traded before the season. Expected return of a 5th or later.

Yeah yeah, he has size, speed blahblah. He is not a good hockey player.

- Elbows15

And more and more, the type of player we’re going to see in this unforgiving hard-cap league with a rather stagnant cap: size, speed, skill, potential - and little to no development time in the AHL to mold that talent into a good hockey player.

Perhaps the successful teams of the future are those that develop a development program in the Show for the Perlinis, Nylanders, Stromes, etc. - growing other teams high draft picks into quality NHLers.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 4:16 PM ET
And more and more, the type of player we’re going to see in this unforgiving hard-cap league with a rather stagnant cap: size, speed, skill, potential - and little to no development time in the AHL to mold that talent into a good hockey player.

Perhaps the successful teams of the future are those that develop a development program in the Show for the Perlinis, Nylanders, Stromes, etc. - growing other teams high draft picks into quality NHLers.

- StLBravesFan


Can't teach heart. He has none.
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
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Sep 2 @ 4:20 PM ET
Can't teach heart. He has none.
- Elbows15

Or he has the frustration of not being put into a good place for him to learn how to be a hockey player and to succeed.

I don’t know....
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 2 @ 4:55 PM ET
Withe that Chicago summer league about to get disrupted by the Traverse City tournament defections after 6 games the team with Dach Boqvist Entwhistle Beaudin Alex Turcotte, Brandon Pirri and Adam Clendening is ahead of Kaner's and DeBrincat's team in the standing b a point.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Sep 2 @ 5:09 PM ET
Withe that Chicago summer league about to get disrupted by the Traverse City tournament defections after 6 games the team with Dach Boqvist Entwhistle Beaudin Alex Turcotte, Brandon Pirri and Adam Clendening is ahead of Kaner's and DeBrincat's team in the standing b a point.
- wiz1901

I thought Kane was getting shipped off to Arizona? He’s still a Blackhawk?
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Sep 2 @ 5:11 PM ET
None. He isn't signed. He may have been inspired by the lack of offers, too. He is a UFA.
- Elbows15


OK thanks. If that was clear in the article, I fed missed it. Oops.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Sep 2 @ 5:14 PM ET
Withe that Chicago summer league about to get disrupted by the Traverse City tournament defections after 6 games the team with Dach Boqvist Entwhistle Beaudin Alex Turcotte, Brandon Pirri and Adam Clendening is ahead of Kaner's and DeBrincat's team in the standing b a point.
- wiz1901


CPHL Summer League ended a week or two ago. Kane didn’t play a single game (slacker!) and Toews showed for one half of one game. But their names were big selling point again.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 5:28 PM ET
Or he has the frustration of not being put into a good place for him to learn how to be a hockey player and to succeed.

I don’t know....

- StLBravesFan

He has been given plenty of opportunities to succeed. My issue has been how many times does he need to be benched to get the message? He was sat a lot last season during games. Never seemed to spur him to greater effort.



Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 5:31 PM ET
OK thanks. If that was clear in the article, I fed missed it. Oops.
- pdx2ord


I had to check CapFriendly to make sure he hadn't signed. He's 37. He has won a few Cups. Made a bunch of money. I can definitely see him feeling that the work just isn't worth it to him anymore and its time for the next phase of his life.

Add in a family and the time they miss in-season, he could be ready to move on.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Sep 2 @ 6:49 PM ET
I thought Kane was getting shipped off to Arizona? He’s still a Blackhawk?
- scottak


That's the smart move someone would say
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Sep 2 @ 6:52 PM ET
The so called pundints don't know Jack. Most picking bears for around .500 and Hawks for again bottom of the league.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Sep 2 @ 7:05 PM ET
The so called pundints don't know Jack. Most picking bears for around .500 and Hawks for again bottom of the league.
- glennjpawlak22

Bears 16-0 !
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 2 @ 7:20 PM ET
Bears 16-0 !
- rpeters01


Hawks with 57 points
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 2 @ 7:41 PM ET
Lo Nath on Dietz tweeted:

Jonathan Toews: "All I see is that I've signed a contract and to me it's not exactly being honored. So I don't care what business you're in -- to me that's kind of ridiculous."

The NHLPA has 2 weeks to decide if it will opt out of the CBA.


Now me: Toews has consistently been on the most militant side of league-PA negotiations.

The league decide to not opt-out at this point. The issue for the players certainly seems to be the escrow.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 2 @ 7:58 PM ET
Looks like Blackhawks legend Lance Bouma has signed with the Kings.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Sep 2 @ 9:14 PM ET
Looks like Blackhawks legend Lance Bouma has signed with the Kings.
- DarthKane


The balance of power has shifted.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Sep 2 @ 9:29 PM ET
He isn't worth a contract or roster slot. He will be traded before the season. Expected return of a 5th or later.

Yeah yeah, he has size, speed blahblah. He is not a good hockey player.

- Elbows15


Your 2nd, well written paragraph inspires me to write about a pet peeve of mine. I know, you're trhilled.

We often here about how player x has "all the tools". This often begins an explanation of why the player isn't living up to expectations. "All the tools" seems limited to physical tools in the lingo of the day. The problem is that there are mental abilities necessary to be good - a player has to be able to process information fast, know where teammates are, etc. There is also an emotional element to "all the tools" - a player needs to have the emotional strength to handle a bunch of things that comes his way, including plenty of failure.

It drives me bats - I know, a short drive - to hear a guy like Perlini described as having "all the tools" when the mental and emotional aspects are ignored. Being physically talented is not "all the tools".

Fyi, not saying my guy Elbows is doing this, so STFU, Elbows.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Sep 2 @ 9:35 PM ET
Hawks with 57 points
- DarthKane


By Christmas
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