DarthKane
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By Christmas - glennjpawlak22
Christmas 2020. |
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Ogilthorpe2
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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Can't teach heart. He has none. - Elbows15
How many times can he watch “Free Solo”? |
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StLBravesFan
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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Your 2nd, well written paragraph inspires me to write about a pet peeve of mine. I know, you're trhilled.
We often here about how player x has "all the tools". This often begins an explanation of why the player isn't living up to expectations. "All the tools" seems limited to physical tools in the lingo of the day. The problem is that there are mental abilities necessary to be good - a player has to be able to process information fast, know where teammates are, etc. There is also an emotional element to "all the tools" - a player needs to have the emotional strength to handle a bunch of things that comes his way, including plenty of failure.
It drives me bats - I know, a short drive - to hear a guy like Perlini described as having "all the tools" when the mental and emotional aspects are ignored. Being physically talented is not "all the tools".
Fyi, not saying my guy Elbows is doing this, so STFU, Elbows. - mohel
No one is ignoring the misplaced mental and emotional aspects of his game - some of us (well, maybe (apparently) just me - look at what the physical tools he does have and somehow believe it would be nice if the Blackhawks’ resources could develop his non-physical attitudes.
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Him many times can he watch “Free Solo”? - Ogilthorpe2
I was so disappointed to find out that wasn’t a Star Wars movie. |
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matt_ahrens
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Location: San Carlos, CA Joined: 06.30.2014
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Not hearing anything in terms of PTOs.
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't extend any PTOs.
I think the Hawks are quite happy with the quality of players at every position heading into camp.
This will be the most competitive training camp in years. Looking forward to it. - Tyler Cameron
yeah, it should be a great camp. I'm very curious to see if Dach makes the team. If not, I'm really curious to see who centers the third line. |
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ikeane
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Location: Jacksonville, FL Joined: 11.04.2005
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yeah, it should be a great camp. I'm very curious to see if Dach makes the team. If not, I'm really curious to see who centers the third line. - matt_ahrens
Riley Sheahan? |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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Him many times can he watch “Free Solo”? - Ogilthorpe2
This is how he should be watching it...Trainer Mike Gapski supplying the eye drops.
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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No one is ignoring the misplaced mental and emotional aspects of his game - some of us (well, maybe (apparently) just me - look at what the physical tools he does have and somehow believe it would be nice if the Blackhawks’ resources could develop his non-physical attitudes. - StLBravesFan
Good morning, Sage. It would be nice, but if one doesn't have the mental processing speed, it won't be developed. Some aspects of mental and emotional skills are innate, but some can be developed. |
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Beaver-Warrior
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Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom Joined: 07.28.2011
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tvetter
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Location: Burkesville, KY Joined: 12.16.2015
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Lo Nath on Dietz tweeted:
Jonathan Toews: "All I see is that I've signed a contract and to me it's not exactly being honored. So I don't care what business you're in -- to me that's kind of ridiculous."
The NHLPA has 2 weeks to decide if it will opt out of the CBA.
Now me: Toews has consistently been on the most militant side of league-PA negotiations.
The league decide to not opt-out at this point. The issue for the players certainly seems to be the escrow. - StLBravesFan
https://www.bardown.com/j...-of-current-cba-1.1359505 |
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walleyeb1
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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https://www.bardown.com/jonathan-toews-hints-at-why-players-could-opt-out-of-current-cba-1.1359505 - tvetter
Toews’s comments are BS, it’s all about revenue sharing in the Socialist Republic of the NHL. |
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https://www.bardown.com/jonathan-toews-hints-at-why-players-could-opt-out-of-current-cba-1.1359505 - tvetter
There are a lot of players who signed fat contracts and not honoring their end of these deals too. So cry me a river. The only players I feel for are the bottom liners who battle for scraps after the "stars" are paid and HOF's who played for peanuts years ago and had to take on real jobs after their careers were over..
Toews and players like him are well paid these days even after escrow, taxes and whatever. |
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StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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There are a lot of players who signed fat contracts and not honoring their end of these deals too. So cry me a river. The only players I feel for are the bottom liners who battle for scraps after the "stars" are paid and HOF's who played for peanuts years ago and had to take on real jobs after their careers were over..
Toews and players like him are well paid these days even after escrow, taxes and whatever. - 67hawks
So are the owners - $15MM per team from VGK - $20MM from SEattle - revenues the players don't share in (and, since it's "return on capital", probably shouldn't).
The ones who really get hurt are the mid-level (perhaps border-line) veterans who have been making $2MM - $4MM - no cap room, teams looking to controlled players on ELCs (even those who should still be in a lower-level league). |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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So are the owners - $15MM per team from VGK - $20MM from SEattle - revenues the players don't share in (and, since it's "return on capital", probably shouldn't).
The ones who really get hurt are the mid-level (perhaps border-line) veterans who have been making $2MM - $4MM - no cap room, teams looking to controlled players on ELCs (even those who should still be in a lower-level league). - StLBravesFan
I'm not feeling too bad for either side. They're both doing well. As for Johnny, he's only telling part of the story. The escrow is to ensure that the total payouts to the players match the percentages agreed to in the CBA. Not as nefarious as portrayed by Toews. |
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StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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I'm not feeling too bad for either side. They're both doing well. As for Johnny, he's only telling part of the story. The escrow is to ensure that the total payouts to the players match the percentages agreed to in the CBA. Not as nefarious as portrayed by Toews. - mohel
Correct. And Toews had been one of the more vocally militant players in the last negotiation.
The only way to "solve" the escrow problem without giving the players more than the CBA-mandated 50% share would be to eliminate the escalator that the players have agreed to every year so far - having the cap more closely align with what the projected HRR will be for the coming season. This would help the players who are already under contract, but provide less money available for unsigned players.
Of course, the owners could agree to a more flexible salary cap to eliminate the escrow issue. Doubtful. |
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rpeters01
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No one is ignoring the misplaced mental and emotional aspects of his game - some of us (well, maybe (apparently) just me - look at what the physical tools he does have and somehow believe it would be nice if the Blackhawks’ resources could develop his non-physical attitudes. - StLBravesFan
Agreed you can't have a whole team of "heart" guys, if you want to win you need a few jerks with talent.
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rpeters01
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Toews’s comments are BS, it’s all about revenue sharing in the Socialist Republic of the NHL. - walleyeb1
Actually it's about helping the Canadian teams relative to the C$. 6 teams or whatever are the reason for escrow. Chicago, Detroit, Boston and New York need to show them who is controlling the league. Philadelphia is a bigger metro area than Montreal. I don't think Toronto would mind the escrow is protecting the Winnipeg and Quebec's of the world.
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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Agreed you can't have a whole team of "heart" guys, if you want to win you need a few jerks with talent. - rpeters01
Who said anything about jerks? |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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I'm not feeling too bad for either side. They're both doing well. As for Johnny, he's only telling part of the story. The escrow is to ensure that the total payouts to the players match the percentages agreed to in the CBA. Not as nefarious as portrayed by Toews. - mohel
I'll bet Bowman is at the root of the evil. |
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mohel
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Location: IL Joined: 02.08.2013
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Actually it's about helping the Canadian teams relative to the C$. 6 teams or whatever are the reason for escrow. Chicago, Detroit, Boston and New York need to show them who is controlling the league. Philadelphia is a bigger metro area than Montreal. I don't think Toronto would mind the escrow is protecting the Winnipeg and Quebec's of the world. - rpeters01
I think you may be conflating escrow and salary cap. The hard cap protects the small market teams - and keeps the expenses of the big market teams in check. Escrow is a tool to enact the cap. |
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walleyeb1
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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Update: Forwards Sean Joslin and Cole Purboo and goaltender Nick Kossoff have been added to #Blackhawks Traverse City roster.
Forwards Luke Bignell and Sean Element and goaltender Nico Daws no longer attending. |
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RedRevenge
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Location: IL Joined: 04.18.2017
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Is it Oct yet? - Beaver-Warrior
1 Month and 1 day until the season starts. |
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walleyeb1
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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I think you may be conflating escrow and salary cap. The hard cap protects the small market teams - and keeps the expenses of the big market teams in check. Escrow is a tool to enact the cap. - mohel
While I admit I don’t totally understand the system, I think escrow and the salary cap are intertwined. That’s why the NHLPA opted to not use the full escalator the last couple seasons.
If the full escalator was used it would have raised the salary cap but also would have required increased escrow contributions, in case actual revenue comes in less than projected. |
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rpeters01
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While I admit I don’t totally understand the system, I think escrow and the salary cap are intertwined. That’s why the NHLPA opted to not use the full escalator the last couple seasons.
If the full escalator was used it would have raised the salary cap but also would have required increased escrow contributions, in case actual revenue comes in less than projected. - walleyeb1
I'm more ignorant on it than not. The article I read explained if the C$ does not maintain a specific level to the US$ the Canadian teams will fall short. My bottom line would be players are employees and owners management. Owners take the risk of business that's why they own. Players to Toews' point should be paid what their contract calls for. There theoretically is a transfer of risk from owners to players going on.
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riozzo
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Location: Cornwallis Island Joined: 06.17.2014
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I'm more ignorant on it than not. The article I read explained if the C$ does not maintain a specific level to the US$ the Canadian teams will fall short. My bottom line would be players are employees and owners management. Owners take the risk of business that's why they own. Players to Toews' point should be paid what their contract calls for. There theoretically is a transfer of risk from owners to players going on. - rpeters01
A 50/50 hockey revenue split was negotiated in good faith and signed by both parties. Therefore, the players can either open the contract and try to renegotiate as allowed in the contract on September 15th or suck it up and understand the terms of the contract they voted in. Whining about it when it does not benefit you does not mean $&!(... |
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