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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:20 AM ET
Apparently anybody could make room, but at what cost.
The whole idea is foolish.

- bobbyisno1

Well, only certain teams marner would sign with.
I can't see him signing with a non playoff team.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:21 AM ET
I don't even see what Marner is waiting for. The Leafs only have a certain amount of money they can give him, waiting ain't gonna fix it.
- daeth

Couldbe structure of the contract, term, bonuses.
Many variables that we wouldnt know about
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 3 @ 10:23 AM ET
I can honestly say I never thought I would have ever seen a great player, that says he wants to be a Leaf for life, not willing to sign a contract that will pay him around $108MM in Salary and endorsements RIGHT AFTER HIS ELC.


- .HOHO.



Sad ,, is it not...
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:24 AM ET
I don't even see what Marner is waiting for. The Leafs only have a certain amount of money they can give him, waiting ain't gonna fix it.
- daeth

I'll bet it's Dubas.
They have just under 10.5 and I think he would prefer to have at least a mill of that left for the trade deadline.
Send down a 750 thou player and 1.75 turns into about a 4 mill player.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 3 @ 10:24 AM ET
New to the forums here by the way...always enjoyed reading the funny comments here and finally registered. I just recently got a phone which was required to validate my account and use the forums. How do you put an image under your name?
- Sigeci

Top right, click on Control Panel.

Then click on "edit avatar"

Note: you'll have to shrink a picture down to 70 X 70
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 3 @ 10:25 AM ET
Apparently anybody could make room, but at what cost.
The whole idea is foolish.

- bobbyisno1


Thank you.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 3 @ 10:25 AM ET
You know it’s better than that Hull and Oates crap Barb.
- Byfuglien Ate Me


Sorry but, you can't improve upon perfection.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 3 @ 10:27 AM ET
It's the most...wonderful time...of the year.

Kids are back in school.

College football is back.

NFL starts Thursday.

NHL training camps just around the corner.

Wedgie is in his happy place.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 3 @ 10:29 AM ET
I don't even see what Marner is waiting for. The Leafs only have a certain amount of money they can give him, waiting ain't gonna fix it.
- daeth


I think that the agent 100% thought that they would be offered a few offer-sheets upwards of $11M+. And now that that obviously didn't/wasn't gonna happen, they're just trying to save face a bit.

So they're gonna wait until the 11th hour and sign what the Leafs are offering.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:29 AM ET
It's the most...wonderful time...of the year.

Kids are back in school.

College football is back.

NFL starts Thursday.

NHL training camps just around the corner.

Wedgie is in his happy place.

- Atomic Wedgie

You dummy, that's Christmas.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:30 AM ET
It's the most...wonderful time...of the year.

Kids are back in school.

College football is back.

NFL starts Thursday.

NHL training camps just around the corner.

Wedgie is in his happy place.

- Atomic Wedgie

Also, that song is now stuck in my head..
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 10:33 AM ET
Couldbe structure of the contract, term, bonuses.
Many variables that we wouldnt know about

- Fakepartofme

Can't know either way obviously but the Leafs didn't cheap out on Nylander or Matthews which is why my assumption is it's an issue on the player/agent side.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 3 @ 10:34 AM ET
Also, that song is now stuck in my head..
- bobbyisno1

No problem, I'll fix that.

Wake me up, before you go-go,

Don't leave me hanging on like a yo-yo,

Wake me up, before you go-go,

Take me dancing tonight.



You're welcome.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 3 @ 10:34 AM ET
Also, that song is now stuck in my head..
- bobbyisno1

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 3 @ 10:34 AM ET
No problem, I'll fix that.

Wake me up, before you go-go,

Don't leave me hanging on like a yo-yo,

Wake me up, before you go-go,

Take me dancing tonight.



You're welcome.

- Atomic Wedgie

When I hit that HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ya ya ya
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 10:34 AM ET
I'll bet it's Dubas.
They have just under 10.5 and I think he would prefer to have at least a mill of that left for the trade deadline.
Send down a 750 thou player and 1.75 turns into about a 4 mill player.

- bobbyisno1

The whole Ceci thing kinda seems like an error at this point lol. Without him things would be less complicated and he's basically a replacement level player by all indication.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 3 @ 10:35 AM ET
Can't know either way obviously but the Leafs didn't cheap out on Nylander or Matthews which is why my assumption is it's an issue on the player/agent side.
- daeth

I hate Doogie Dubas as much as the next guy, but let's be fair here:

- the Nylander contract is not an overpayment.
- Dubas had to pay Matthews want Matthews wanted, because he's Auston frikkin' Matthews, and that deal had to get done prior to July 1st.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:36 AM ET

- AdamFrench

At least it's better than Wedgies song.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 10:37 AM ET
I think that the agent 100% thought that they would be offered a few offer-sheets upwards of $11M+. And now that that obviously didn't/wasn't gonna happen, they're just trying to save face a bit.

So they're gonna wait until the 11th hour and sign what the Leafs are offering.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Would enjoy that just to see all the agents/teams that are waiting on the Marner contract before singing their RFA deals to scramble at the last minute.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
The whole Ceci thing kinda seems like an error at this point lol. Without him things would be less complicated and he's basically a replacement level player by all indication.
- daeth

Yeah but who else would have taken Zaitsev?
Contracts are a wash this year, free and clear next year.
I think that was a decent trade.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
I hate Doogie Dubas as much as the next guy, but let's be fair here:

- the Nylander contract is not an overpayment.
- Dubas had to pay Matthews want Matthews wanted, because he's Auston frikkin' Matthews, and that deal had to get done prior to July 1st.

- Atomic Wedgie

The Nylander contract is fair. I'd say it's right up to the max of what I would consider a fair deal though. Matthews contract is (frank)ing trash due to length. Cap hit is fine, could even have been higher and it would've been fine as long as the term was longer.

All just my opinion obviously.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
Yeah but who else would have taken Zaitsev?
Contracts are a wash this year, free and clear next year.
I think that was a decent trade.

- bobbyisno1

They could've let Ceci walk right?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 3 @ 10:39 AM ET
They could've let Ceci walk right?
- daeth

I don't think so.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
They could've let Ceci walk right?
- daeth

Simple answer: no. Ottawa gave him a qualifying offer.

More complicated answer: Leafs didn't have to offer him $4.5 million contract - could have waited it out to see if Ceci took them to arbitration. If they had gone to arbitration and the ruling came back at higher than $4.5 million, then the Leafs could have walked away.

Weird little idea that I read somewhere on the interwebs: if Ceci had gone to arbitration, the Leafs could have put in $5 million as their offer. The arbitrator would obviously not go below what the Leafs were offering, so then the Leafs could have automatically walked away.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 10:43 AM ET
Simple answer: no. Ottawa gave him a qualifying offer.

More complicated answer: Leafs didn't have to offer him $4.5 million contract - could have waited it out to see if Ceci took them to arbitration. If they had gone to arbitration and the ruling came back at higher than $4.5 million, then the Leafs could have walked away.

Weird little idea that I read somewhere on the interwebs: if Ceci had gone to arbitration, the Leafs could have put in $5 million as their offer. The arbitrator would obviously not go below what the Leafs were offering, so then the Leafs could have automatically walked away.

- Atomic Wedgie

Damn, hockey be complicated.
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