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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 3 @ 11:42 AM ET
13 would never have been the offer.
Million more for Matthews over mcd is hilarious.

- Fakepartofme


I didn’t know 500k was now 1 million. Interesting.

It’s cap percentages man, That’s what we go by.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
Dunno, just based on your tone you seem a bit agitated.
- daeth


I think you need to re think about who is really agitated here....
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
I didn’t know 500k was now 1 million. Interesting.

It’s cap percentages man, That’s what we go by.

- Santo_44

Anything more than mcd is hilarious.
Specially within a year.

2-3 years down the road, the economics could be different.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
I think you need to re think about who is really agitated here....
- Santo_44

lol
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
Anything more than mcd is hilarious.
Specially within a year.

2-3 years down the road, the economics could be different.

- Fakepartofme


Cap

Percentages

I really don’t think it’s too hard to see that GMs and agents go by cap percentages to figure out contracts.

13 million would be Mcdavids cap percentage so yeah Matthews would of gotten a tad less. Probably 12.75.

Plus the projected cap was 83 million. So maybe it would have been nicer to wait until the offseason to sign him as we probably would of gotten him at a bit less since the cap was lower than expected.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 11:53 AM ET

- AdamFrench

cocaine is a hell of a drug
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
cocaine is a hell of a drug
- daeth

that Tanner before he writes a blog
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
that Tanner before he writes a blog
- Symba007

and during

and after

probably
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 12:02 PM ET
Anything more than mcd is hilarious.
Specially within a year.

2-3 years down the road, the economics could be different.

- Fakepartofme

i've seen articles using math beyond my comprehension showing that mcdavid is underpaid. at some point someone that is not as good as him is gonna get more money than him!
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 3 @ 12:07 PM ET
i've seen articles using math beyond my comprehension showing that mcdavid is underpaid. at some point someone that is not as good as him is gonna get more money than him!
- daeth

same happened to this guy

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 3 @ 12:08 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
Spoke with Kyle Dubas today. Regarding teams inquiring trade-wise on Marner: ``That’s not a real avenue that we’ve even remotely explored. It’s our full intention that Mitch Marner will be a Toronto Maple Leaf for a very long time and that’s everything we’re working towards.’’
11:57 AM · Sep 3, 2019
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 3 @ 12:10 PM ET
Link?

I don't recall ever seeing that.

- Atomic Wedgie


I don't think anybody ever saw that.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 3 @ 12:11 PM ET
i've seen articles using math beyond my comprehension showing that mcdavid is underpaid. at some point someone that is not as good as him is gonna get more money than him!
- daeth

OH for sure.
A couple years down the road
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 3 @ 12:11 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
Spoke with Kyle Dubas today. Regarding teams inquiring trade-wise on Marner: ``That’s not a real avenue that we’ve even remotely explored. It’s our full intention that Mitch Marner will be a Toronto Maple Leaf for a very long time and that’s everything we’re working towards.’’
11:57 AM · Sep 3, 2019

- Atomic Wedgie

marner has soft hands, Dubas likes that
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 12:11 PM ET
https://www.thescore.com/...res-werenski-negotiations

guys you're not gonna believe this but torts is pissed off
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 12:12 PM ET
marner has soft hands, Dubas likes that
- Symba007

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 3 @ 12:17 PM ET
13 would never have been the offer.
Million more for Matthews over mcd is hilarious.

- Fakepartofme


According to Bob Mackenzie's speculation, it was the ballpark for an 8 year deal. The word was that Matthews' was down for an 8 year deal, but worked to come up with a lower dollar figure over a shorter term to "help".
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 3 @ 12:27 PM ET
The whole Ceci thing kinda seems like an error at this point lol. Without him things would be less complicated and he's basically a replacement level player by all indication.
- daeth


That contract exists solely to get the CAP to where it is, forcing the issue even more that the Leafs will not over pay by literal millions for Marner.

Plus, it's only one year.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 3 @ 12:28 PM ET
https://www.thescore.com/...res-werenski-negotiations

guys you're not gonna believe this but torts is pissed off

- daeth

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
Dubas was fine with 5. He will be canned well before the end of the Matthews deal anyway and he knows it. Can’t be that soft in management, employees are not your friends Kyle.
- DrunkenCanuck



I wonder what the reaction would be if Dubas referred to Matthews and Marner as his "Employees"

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
Would enjoy that just to see all the agents/teams that are waiting on the Marner contract before singing their RFA deals to scramble at the last minute.
- daeth


They're most likely gonna have to cave in before Marner gets his.

And at that point, Marner can feel good about himself that he'll get a lot more than all of them, even if he doesn't get nearly what was wanted.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 12:31 PM ET
That contract exists solely to get the CAP to where it is, forcing the issue even more that the Leafs will not over pay by literal millions for Marner.

Plus, it's only one year.

- GreatGigInTheSky

i like your optimism
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 3 @ 12:34 PM ET
If Marner is unsigned 5 games into then season, then I'll be worried.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 3 @ 12:36 PM ET
If Marner is unsigned 5 games into then season, then I'll be worried.
- AdamFrench

he will sign next week and be there for camp
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