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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 2 @ 7:50 PM ET
Didn't Bo and Person click towards end of season when Pearson got comfortable.

Preference would be more lines with offense. But maybe against top teams Green goes with 2 checking lines. Inserts Miller with top line.

- NuckUp

Agree but 2-way play cannot suffer. Much depends on Ops for match ups & us playing different styles as needed. No one style is good enough in the big picture.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 7:55 PM ET
Most 22/23yr olds are allowed to learn their lessons in the AHL if necessary. Acting like the clock is ticking on a dude because he had to go through his growing pains in the spotlight is pretty unfair as far as I’m concerned. This team has been awful with zero depth - the only reason he was thrust into such a position. Now we finally get to see him compete and earn, and it’s going to be tough because he doesn’t play a game that resonates with Green. Green was/is a plug and identifies with grindstone talent. I just hope he comes to camp and makes the decision tough on the coaches. I’d love to see what he and Pettersson could do together with an opportunity to co-create.
- DrChristianTroy



I also agree he should be in the AHL . I know the Canucks think that too because they have said as much.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 2 @ 8:00 PM ET
I have seen glances of skill but that is it for me. If he goes back to KHL then guess what someone else will step in with that skill (Hogslander) . Like I said you only get so many chances .
- VANTEL


Goldy may last on the roster as a cheap depth option and to support V-Pod's break-in.

Timing may have Hogz set up to replace Sven on roster when his contract is up.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 2 @ 8:02 PM ET
The pace he was on ‘til his bad habits were punished speaks for itself. Goldobin is 23 and the only player on our roster who thinks the game as creatively as Pettersson. He doesn’t fit anywhere except that line because he will never be able to coexist with guys who generate offense by dumping & chasing. He wants to enter the zone with possession & create space with movement/chemistry. Bury the kid if you want, but it’s a dumb move if you’re into maximizing value all around.
- DrChristianTroy

I think it’s pretty simple. Will Elias line produce more offence with Goldy or Miller on their line? Easily Miller. Goldy is done
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 2 @ 8:08 PM ET
I think it’s pretty simple. Will Elias line produce more offence with Goldy or Miller on their line? Easily Miller. Goldy is done
- CanuckDon


Seems too black and white. Better question is:

Would the Canucks as a team score more goals with Goldy on the EP-Brock line and Miller on Bo’s line or with Miller on the top line and Goldy gone?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 8:11 PM ET
Seems too black and white. Better question is:

Would the Canucks as a team score more goals with Goldy on the EP-Brock line and Miller on Bo’s line or with Miller on the top line and Goldy gone?

- Nucker101


It will probably be Ferland on EP line.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 2 @ 8:13 PM ET
Seems too black and white. Better question is:

Would the Canucks as a team score more goals with Goldy on the EP-Brock line and Miller on Bo’s line or with Miller on the top line and Goldy gone?

- Nucker101

I think the team will score more and defend better with Miller, Boeser, Pearson and Ferland on the wings. Goldy will never provide enough offence to overcome his numerous deficiencies imo
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 2 @ 8:14 PM ET
It will probably be Ferland on EP line.
- VANTEL


I agree, but I’m still intrigued by the idea of a Ferland-Bo-Miller power line
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 2 @ 8:15 PM ET
I think the team will score more and defend better with Miller, Boeser, Pearson and Ferland on the wings. Goldy will never provide enough offence to overcome his numerous deficiencies imo
- CanuckDon


Fair. I hope Bo plays with Miller, none of the lineups that have Miller on the top line look that good to me.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Sep 2 @ 8:27 PM ET
Fair. I hope Bo plays with Miller, none of the lineups that have Miller on the top line look that good to me.
- Nucker101


Ditto & ditto.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 2 @ 8:28 PM ET
I agree, but I’m still intrigued by the idea of a Ferland-Bo-Miller power line
- Nucker101


That's another good possible combination. At this point the only determined spots may be:

? Petey BB

? Bo ?

? ? ?

? Beagle ?

Insert away on ?.... options are real not desperate.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 9:02 PM ET
I agree, but I’m still intrigued by the idea of a Ferland-Bo-Miller power line
- Nucker101



I will be honest I know very little about Miller. I hope he can be a number two center. I am maybe one of the few looking for three lines deep. I don't think it will be this year but in a year or two if some prospects work out and a contract or two is moved I think Canucks can contend .
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 2 @ 9:14 PM ET
I think it’s pretty simple. Will Elias line produce more offence with Goldy or Miller on their line? Easily Miller. Goldy is done
- CanuckDon

Miller will give the line more dimensions to use no doubt. Goldy gives his own dimension the question is consistency and the cost of D he doesn’t add. Different types of players that either can make the line click. Millers versatility is valuable if Green needs or wants to use it. Goldy isn’t that.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 2 @ 9:16 PM ET
I agree, but I’m still intrigued by the idea of a Ferland-Bo-Miller power line
- Nucker101

So...

Goldy Petey Brock

Who is on the 3rd line?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 2 @ 9:18 PM ET
I will be honest I know very little about Miller. I hope he can be a number two center. I am maybe one of the few looking for three lines deep. I don't think it will be this year but in a year or two if some prospects work out and a contract or two is moved I think Canucks can contend .
- VANTEL

Miller can play anywhere in the top 9 other top C imo. I too am intrigued with 3 scoring lines.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 2 @ 9:21 PM ET
That's another good possible combination. At this point the only determined spots may be:


Goldy Bo Brock offence baby

Sven Bo Pearson chemistry/decent grit

Ferland Miller JV beast mode

Leivo Beagle Sutter vet shutdown line

Insert away on ?.... options are real not desperate.

- NuckUp


The 3 scoring lines look
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 2 @ 9:22 PM ET
I agree, but I’m still intrigued by the idea of a Ferland-Bo-Miller power line
- Nucker101

Sexy.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 2 @ 9:24 PM ET
I will be honest I know very little about Miller. I hope he can be a number two center. I am maybe one of the few looking for three lines deep. I don't think it will be this year but in a year or two if some prospects work out and a contract or two is moved I think Canucks can contend .
- VANTEL

But you were fine trading a 1st round pick for him?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 9:29 PM ET
But you were fine trading a 1st round pick for him?
- Marwood



YES
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 2 @ 9:33 PM ET
Always good for laugh, when I read comments about Goldobin's skill and how he should get the chance playing on the top offensive line.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 2 @ 9:37 PM ET
YES
- VANTEL

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 9:40 PM ET

- Marwood



Hey I just figure if the move pisses you off so much then it must be good for the Canucks
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 2 @ 9:57 PM ET
Most 22/23yr olds are allowed to learn their lessons in the AHL if necessary. Acting like the clock is ticking on a dude because he had to go through his growing pains in the spotlight is pretty unfair as far as I’m concerned. This team has been awful with zero depth - the only reason he was thrust into such a position. Now we finally get to see him compete and earn, and it’s going to be tough because he doesn’t play a game that resonates with Green. Green was/is a plug and identifies with grindstone talent. I just hope he comes to camp and makes the decision tough on the coaches. I’d love to see what he and Pettersson could do together with an opportunity to co-create.
- DrChristianTroy


Meh, I think Goldy could be a good player, but he hasn't shown an insane amount of talent that you start to overlook his deficiencies. Yes, he thinks the game in a similar fashion as Petey, but he doesn't have the skill and tenacity and mentality and size to actually play that way all the time. I'd give him every opportunity in camp, but if he looks the same as last year, there are other players who will do better in the position he'd be given.

Also, Green was a grinding guy in the NHL for a bit, but he was a highly skilled first round pick that put up decent numbers in the NHL for a few years. He identified how he had to play to make it stick, and that was being more energy than skill at times. I think he doesn't see that in Virt and Goldy – that doing whatever they can to make it attitude – and one of the reasons he's harder on them.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 2 @ 10:04 PM ET
Hey I just figure if the move pisses you off so much then it must be good for the Canucks
- VANTEL

I 2nd this motion 😄
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 2 @ 10:06 PM ET
Meh, I think Goldy could be a good player, but he hasn't shown an insane amount of talent that you start to overlook his deficiencies. Yes, he thinks the game in a similar fashion as Petey, but he doesn't have the skill and tenacity and mentality and size to actually play that way all the time. I'd give him every opportunity in camp, but if he looks the same as last year, there are other players who will do better in the position he'd be given.

Also, Green was a grinding guy in the NHL for a bit, but he was a highly skilled first round pick that put up decent numbers in the NHL for a few years. He identified how he had to play to make it stick, and that was being more energy than skill at times. I think he doesn't see that in Virt and Goldy – that doing whatever they can to make it attitude – and one of the reasons he's harder on them.

- NewYorkNuck

That’s some good perspective right there.
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