The pace he was on ‘til his bad habits were punished speaks for itself. Goldobin is 23 and the only player on our roster who thinks the game as creatively as Pettersson. He doesn’t fit anywhere except that line because he will never be able to coexist with guys who generate offense by dumping & chasing. He wants to enter the zone with possession & create space with movement/chemistry. Bury the kid if you want, but it’s a dumb move if you’re into maximizing value all around.
- DrChristianTroy

Always good for laugh, when I read comments about Goldobin's skill and how he should get the chance playing on the top offensive line.
- Reubenkincade

It's a tough topic in here. Some believe if he was given the chance with top minutes he'd be fine. But Green can't let the kid go past 5 games without a stint in the doghouse. It's really all about what Green wants to do with him.

Hey I just figure if the move pisses you off so much then it must be good for the Canucks
- VANTEL

lol don't you worry. #teamwhiner will let us all know how important that 1st rounder was when we hit our first 5 game losing streak.

Hey I just figure if the move pisses you off so much then it must be good for the Canucks
- VANTEL

Fair enough.

It's a tough topic in here. Some believe if he was given the chance with top minutes he'd be fine. But Green can't let the kid go past 5 games without a stint in the doghouse. It's really all about what Green wants to do with him.
- LordHumungous

I just find it funny how these people spin it, Goldobin should get chances well into his 20's, Virtanen and Juolevi, were a bust at 20.

I just find it funny how these people spin it, Goldobin should get chances well into his 20's, Virtanen and Juolevi, were a bust at 20.
- Reubenkincade

Preaching patience but quick to call a bust.
It’s tough to take some ppl seriously lol
All players are not on the same linear growth curve & many cases have shown when a team gives up on a player they succeed elsewhere. Comes down to judgement & timing & a GM can be remembered more for mistakes before getting credit for his good.

Preaching patience but quick to call a bust.
It’s tough to take some ppl seriously lol
All players are not on the same linear growth curve & many cases have shown when a team gives up on a player they succeed elsewhere. Comes down to judgement & timing & a GM can be remembered more for mistakes before getting credit for his good.
- Nighthawk

Goldobin has a season and a half worth of NHL games. With that being said,,, he did have a career season so hard to call someone still improving a bust. Also, hard to call a player a success who can only play with a single person on the team.

Go to Utica. A player who starts hot and fades may have better use as a call up for top 6 duty when an injury happens than taking a roster spot from a more useful player.

I read the Goldy interview. The one question I wished was asked of him is if he was willing to start the season in Utica.

Goldobin has a season and a half worth of NHL games. With that being said,,, he did have a career season so hard to call someone still improving a bust. Also, hard to call a player a success who can only play with a single person on the team.

Go to Utica. A player who starts hot and fades may have better use as a call up for top 6 duty when an injury happens than taking a roster spot from a more useful player.

I read the Goldy interview. The one question I wished was asked of him is if he was willing to start the season in Utica.
- boonerbuck

Hes not going to answer that type of question while negotiating a contract. Him and his agent are probably asking for a 1way contract, and benning I'm assuming is trying to negotiate a 2way

I thought Miller was pretty confirmed at the LW spot, Sutter at 3c. If (when?) he gets injured maybe Miller slodes into 3c, but that seems like an easy Gaudette call up rather than shaking up the top6.

So...

Goldy Petey Brock

Who is on the 3rd line?
- Nighthawk

With that 1st line set up & Ferland Bo Miller leaves Sven Sutter JV for 3rd line.

I just find it funny how these people spin it, Goldobin should get chances well into his 20's, Virtanen and Juolevi, were a bust at 20.
- Reubenkincade

No player under 25 is a bust. But, if they aren't improving then it may be easier to make a case early. I think all of the above guys are improving.

Goldobin has a season and a half worth of NHL games. With that being said,,, he did have a career season so hard to call someone still improving a bust. Also, hard to call a player a success who can only play with a single person on the team.

Go to Utica. A player who starts hot and fades may have better use as a call up for top 6 duty when an injury happens than taking a roster spot from a more useful player.

I read the Goldy interview. The one question I wished was asked of him is if he was willing to start the season in Utica.
- boonerbuck

Goldy has been to Utica that shouldn't be an issue. He's likely to get picked up on waivers. One way contract maybe not.

Hes not going to answer that type of question while negotiating a contract. Him and his agent are probably asking for a 1way contract, and benning I'm assuming is trying to negotiate a 2way
- Codes1087

So. Is he writing his own questions? He was asked if he's considering the KHL. These are relevant questions.

So. Is he writing his own questions? He was asked if he's considering the KHL. These are relevant questions.
- boonerbuck

Ok

I thought Miller was pretty confirmed at the LW spot, Sutter at 3c. If (when?) he gets injured maybe Miller slodes into 3c, but that seems like an easy Gaudette call up rather than shaking up the top6.
- neem55

I don't think anything is set in stone.
Injuries and pre-season will help determine who gels with whom.

I'm still going with:

Ferland-Petersson-Boeser
Pearson-Bo- JT Miller
Sven-Sutter-JV
Leivo-Beagle-Eriksson
Goldobin, Motte as extra's.

I don't think anything is set in stone.
Injuries and pre-season will help determine who gels with whom.

I'm still going with:

Ferland-Petersson-Boeser
Pearson-Bo- JT Miller
Sven-Sutter-JV
Leivo-Beagle-Eriksson
Goldobin, Motte as extra's.
- dbot

Not meaning to call you out specifically(I apologize if this is your projection and not what you actually want), but I find it odd that some of the same people who think JV gets too much hate and still has another step to take offensively also are the same people who propose him playing with Sutter as his center.

That's exactly how you kill a young winger's confidence, by playing him with a center who can't make plays for his wingers. Any winger on his or Beagle's line will take a hit offensively, those dudes just don't possess the natural vision that a true center does.

The pace he was on ‘til his bad habits were punished speaks for itself. Goldobin is 23 and the only player on our roster who thinks the game as creatively as Pettersson. He doesn’t fit anywhere except that line because he will never be able to coexist with guys who generate offense by dumping & chasing. He wants to enter the zone with possession & create space with movement/chemistry. Bury the kid if you want, but it’s a dumb move if you’re into maximizing value all around.
- DrChristianTroy

Please if you could explain how Petey at 20 put up twice as many points as a 22 year old then if they are so equal.
Still can't figure out the difference of junior talent to NHL talent.

Not meaning to call you out specifically(I apologize if this is your projection and not what you actually want), but I find it odd that some of the same people who think JV gets too much hate and still has another step to take offensively also are the same people who propose him playing with Sutter as his center.

That's exactly how you kill a young winger's confidence, by playing him with a center who can't make plays for his wingers. Any winger on his or Beagle's line will take a hit offensively, those dudes just don't possess the natural vision that a true center does.
- Nucker101

JV is a limbo player. Needs a play maker type Center who you find in top 6 but isn't good enough for top 6. Play hard like Ferland or (frank) off JV

Please if you could explain how Petey at 20 put up twice as many points as a 22 year old then if they are so equal.
Still can't figure out the difference of junior talent to NHL talent.
- manvanfan

I'm no Goldobin fan, but I really think you misunderstood his posts. No sane human watches both of them play and says they're "equal". He said that both play a similar style, not the same talent level, those are 2 very different things.

It's not crazy to suggest that Godlobin is one of the most skilled players on the team, it's how well the uses that skill that's the question.

Not meaning to call you out specifically(I apologize if this is your projection and not what you actually want), but I find it odd that some of the same people who think JV gets too much hate and still has another step to take offensively also are the same people who propose him playing with Sutter as his center.

That's exactly how you kill a young winger's confidence, by playing him with a center who can't make plays for his wingers.
- Nucker101

This.
Not exactly what i'd want to see, more of how I see it playing out.
I also wouldn't have LE in my fantasy lineup.

With that said, I don't necessarily think that a line with a healthy Sven, healthy Sutter and improved Virtanen would necessarily be devoid of offence.

For sh!ts n giggles, my ideal lineup next year when all healthy would look something like:

Ferland-Pettersson-Sven
Miller-Bo-Boeser
Sven-Gaudette-JV
Rousell-Beagle-Sutter

a little bit of grit, speed and finesse on the top 3 lines and 1 shutdown line.

JV is a limbo player. Needs a play maker type Center who you find in top 6 but isn't good enough for top 6. Play hard like Ferland or (frank) off JV
- manvanfan

He has a better chance of hitting 15+ goals again with Gaudette than Sutter. I'd expect more goals against as well, but if the goal is to build a team for the future, I think playing them together as a 3rd "scoring line" with a dude like Baertschi, Leivo or Pearson is a better idea than having Sutter/Beagle neuter 2 separate lines offensively.

Not meaning to call you out specifically(I apologize if this is your projection and not what you actually want), but I find it odd that some of the same people who think JV gets too much hate and still has another step to take offensively also are the same people who propose him playing with Sutter as his center.

That's exactly how you kill a young winger's confidence, by playing him with a center who can't make plays for his wingers. Any winger on his or Beagle's line will take a hit offensively, those dudes just don't possess the natural vision that a true center does.
- Nucker101

4th line...
Leivo Beagle Sutter
Problem solved 👍

I'm no Goldobin fan, but I really think you misunderstood his posts. No sane human watches both of them play and says they're "equal". He said that both play a similar style, not the same talent level, those are 2 very different things.

It's not crazy to suggest that Godlobin is one of the most skilled players on the team, it's how well the uses that skill that's the question.
- Nucker101

To get away with skill and lack of defence or hard to play against you need to have top end skill. Skill you see in players like Petey, P. Kane. Johnny gaudreau. Would you put Goldy in that category? I wouldn't. Someone like Horvat has less skill but more drive and other qualities is much better at the same age.

To get away with skill and lack of defence or hard to play against you need to have top end skill. Skill you see in players like Petey, P. Kane. Johnny gaudreau. Would you put Goldy in that category? I wouldn't. Someone like Horvat has less skill but more drive and other qualities is much better at the same age.
- manvanfan

Horvat after all only has the skill of a 3C

He has a better chance of hitting 15+ goals again with Gaudette than Sutter. I'd expect more goals against as well, but if the goal is to build a team for the future, I think playing them together as a 3rd "scoring line" with a dude like Baertschi, Leivo or Pearson is a better idea than having Sutter/Beagle neuter 2 separate lines offensively.
- Nucker101

100% Sutter is a guy who needs a set up man. JV is not that. Roussel Gaudette Virtanen is my 3rd line once healthy. Bang crash shot pick up garbage.