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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 3 @ 1:28 PM ET
I really have no idea

Honestly, I think he's a Kings fan or at least someone that would like a team like that.

His little thing though has the New York Super Awesome Rangers also getting 84.9 points.

- manvanfan


You don't know who he is, so he must be a dumb Kings fan?

That's the scientific method at work right there!


Also, do you mean a two time cup champion?
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Sep 3 @ 1:41 PM ET
JV has been a bust
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 3 @ 1:48 PM ET
I agree. But what DCT said is true as well, Goldobin is arguable the 2nd most skilled forward on this roster with the puck, unfortunately it hasn't translated to enough offense and he brings nothing else to the table outside of offense.
- Nucker101

Goldobin is not the 2nd most skilled player on the team. Not even close. He is a decent passer and has the odd dangle but his overall skill set isn’t close to guys like Miller, Baertschi and horvat.

Edit: forgot Boeser. If you think he is more skilled than boeser...I can’t even
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 3 @ 1:57 PM ET
JV has been a bust
- kaptaan

His numbers are trending upward.

If he plays the full 82 games I bet he scores 20.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 3 @ 2:03 PM ET
Don ¿tú vas a españa pronto?
- 1970vintage


In 10 days! I need to improve my Spanish
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 3 @ 2:04 PM ET
I'm super surprised you wouldn't know the difference between hockey related debate and making comments about people being molested as children.
- manvanfan




1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 3 @ 2:16 PM ET
In 10 days! I need to improve my Spanish
- CanuckDon


Dos cervesas, pour favor! I assume you have a lovely lady friend accompanying you... "two beers please"

Vino rojo regional, por favor! "Local red wine please"

Yo necesito una mesa para dos, por favor "I need a table for two please"

Cuanto por una puta - you'll just have to trust me on this
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 3 @ 2:18 PM ET
JV has been a bust
- kaptaan


15 goals last season... not a bust. Still improving. Just very little to celebrate about his potential but he's definitely an NHL player.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 3 @ 2:18 PM ET
Not meaning to call you out specifically(I apologize if this is your projection and not what you actually want), but I find it odd that some of the same people who think JV gets too much hate and still has another step to take offensively also are the same people who propose him playing with Sutter as his center.

That's exactly how you kill a young winger's confidence, by playing him with a center who can't make plays for his wingers. Any winger on his or Beagle's line will take a hit offensively, those dudes just don't possess the natural vision that a true center does.

- Nucker101


Miller as 3C I guess.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 3 @ 2:22 PM ET
You don't know who he is, so he must be a dumb Kings fan?

That's the scientific method at work right there!


Also, do you mean a two time cup champion?

- 1970vintage

Are you a closet Kings fan as well?

I mean I have always liked Kopitar and Carter but the rest of the team can kind of go (frank) themsevles.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 3 @ 2:23 PM ET



- bloatedmosquito

Is this your butt hurt song or I'm going to play the victim song?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 3 @ 2:24 PM ET
Sounds about right
- 1970vintage

Can I put you in the book for that?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 3 @ 2:28 PM ET
Can I put you in the book for that?
- manvanfan


If it's going in the book, put me down for 37-32-13, 87 points.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 3 @ 2:32 PM ET
Are you a closet Kings fan as well?

I mean I have always liked Kopitar and Carter but the rest of the team can kind of go (frank) themsevles.

- manvanfan


Did like Dion when I was a kid, but never really liked the kings. Probably all those years of Gretzky setting records against the Canucks.

What I'm saying is cheering for the Canucks doesn't make us better than someone who cheers for the kings, I.e. "King's fans" aren't stupid, which what it sounded like you were saying.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 3 @ 2:36 PM ET
Goldobin is not the 2nd most skilled player on the team. Not even close. He is a decent passer and has the odd dangle but his overall skill set isn’t close to guys like Miller, Baertschi and horvat.

Edit: forgot Boeser. If you think he is more skilled than boeser...I can’t even

- CanuckDon


No offense, but I’ll take Benning’s opinion over yours. It’s not like he’s talking about a player on another team that he’s only scouted a handful of times, he’s seen him play a lot of games.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 3 @ 2:39 PM ET
No offense, but I’ll take Benning’s opinion over yours. It’s not like he’s talking about a player on another team that he’s only scouted a handful of times, he’s seen him play a lot of games.
- Nucker101


Team Benning Pom pom 🤦🏻‍♂️
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 3 @ 2:42 PM ET
Did like Dion when I was a kid, but never really liked the kings. Probably all those years of Gretzky setting records against the Canucks.

What I'm saying is cheering for the Canucks doesn't make us better than someone who cheers for the kings, I.e. "King's fans" aren't stupid, which what it sounded like you were saying.

- 1970vintage

His projection had nothing to do with which team I thought he cheered for.

I was just looking at some of the things his twitter said and he seemed like a fan of a team like the Kings.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 3 @ 2:45 PM ET
Team Benning Pom pom 🤦🏻‍♂️
- CanuckDon


I'm no benning bro but I think hes right. Benning isnt saying anything about his shot, defense, skating, back checking, motor, or anything else, but is saying he thinks hes one of the most creative players with the puck on the team. I dont disagree. Goldy has a ton of potential with the puck, but is a garbage fire when he doesnt have it, which is basically all the time when he doesnt play on a line with petey. Goldy needs soo much work to round out his game, but creativity with the puck, hes gotta be up there near the top in regards to the team
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 3 @ 2:46 PM ET
No offense, but I’ll take Benning’s opinion over yours. It’s not like he’s talking about a player on another team that he’s only scouted a handful of times, he’s seen him play a lot of games.
- Nucker101

You are talking about JB's opinion on NHL talent and with the NHL scouts that's his biggest question mark by far.

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 3 @ 2:47 PM ET
Miller as 3C I guess.
- boonerbuck


If miller gets pushed down to 3C because of depth, people will whine about benning giving up a 1st for a really good 3C, but having a player of Millers calibre as a 3C who can play 1st PP, that's a good thing. Atleast in my opinion
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 3 @ 2:52 PM ET
Is this your butt hurt song or I'm going to play the victim song?
- manvanfan




Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 3 @ 2:52 PM ET
You are talking about JB's opinion on NHL talent and with the NHL scouts that's his biggest question mark by far.
- manvanfan


For sure it is, but Goldobin isn't a dude he's only scouted a handful of times which is likely the case when it comes to players he's overpaid to acquire. Outside of Sbisa and maybe Hutton, he hasn't really drastically overpaid any of his own players when re-signing them. So I think he a has a decent handle on his own players, it's the evaluations of other teams' NHL/AHL players that Benning and his pro scouting staff have had some difficulty with.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 3 @ 2:55 PM ET
For sure it is, but Goldobin isn't a dude he's only scouted a handful of times which is likely the case when it comes to players he's overpaid to acquire. Outside of Sbisa and maybe Hutton, he hasn't really drastically overpaid any of his own players when re-signing them. So I think he a has a decent handle on his own players, it's the evaluations of other teams' NHL/AHL players that Benning and his pro scouting staff have had some difficulty with.
- Nucker101

I don't know. Going with the same defence was a bad evaluation of his own team

Gudbranson overpaid for and then over signed is a pretty big black mark on an otherwise stellar record.



Codes assessment of Goldy was pretty spot on.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 3 @ 2:57 PM ET
I don't know. Going with the same defence was a bad evaluation of his own team

Gudbranson overpaid for and then over signed is a pretty big black mark on an otherwise stellar record.



Codes assessment of Goldy was pretty spot on.

- manvanfan


My assessment was nothing more than what benning said about goldy though. He praised his creativity with the puck, and didnt address anything else.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 3 @ 2:58 PM ET
If miller gets pushed down to 3C because of depth, people will whine about benning giving up a 1st for a really good 3C, but having a player of Millers calibre as a 3C who can play 1st PP, that's a good thing. Atleast in my opinion
- Codes1087


The complaining will happen even if Miller is on the 2nd line. I just want whats best for the team... could care less about anything else.


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