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sgk56
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.16.2019

Sep 3 @ 10:28 AM ET
Michael Great article!
They should NOT trade him, they need the physical play that he provides on the back end.

- gordong


Nice take.

Cut back on the 24mins a night and put him in a position to succeed.

Also we would miss him when the injury bug invariably hits. There would be a bunch of BS on this board when they start calling up no names from the AHL for injury replacement
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:29 AM ET

- TheSabresTaco

Chris16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 06.22.2012

Sep 3 @ 10:30 AM ET
Michael Great article!
They should NOT trade him, they need the physical play that he provides on the back end.

- gordong


Good post.

Honest question: You're an opposing forward on the forecheck, who would you rather battle in corner with - Risto or Dahlin?

Not a shot at Dahlin at all but Risto can battle with the best and he knows how to get opposing forwards off their game. Is there a stat for that?

We need to be more difficult to play against, right? You can't have an entire D corp comprised of puck movers. Need some grit & snarl back there too for a nice balance.
sgk56
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.16.2019

Sep 3 @ 10:31 AM ET
Wow... i didn't really ignore the question you just lack the ability to read something that isn't completely spelled out for you.

and i never said Tage was a comparison, what i stated was that he was the next closest to Risto in +/- and Risto almost double his stat line there. Tage had the second worst +/- on the team at -22 and risto was at -41.... i don't care how you slice that stat it is terrible. And to say everyone had a bad stat in that regard ignores the fact that he more than doubled everyone on the team besides tage.

- SabresFaninIndiana


Well I can read just fine.

Just because i'm not obsessed with stats doesn't mean I'm wrong.

You brought up Tage. Obviously he belonged in the AHL.

Are you saying Risto should have been sent down?

Your argument is weak at best.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Sep 3 @ 10:33 AM ET
Good post.

Honest question: You're an opposing forward on the forecheck, who would you rather battle in corner with - Risto or Dahlin?

Not a shot at Dahlin at all but Risto can battle with the best and he knows how to get opposing forwards off their game. Is there a stat for that?

We need to be more difficult to play against, right? You can't have an entire D corp comprised of puck movers. Need some grit & snarl back there too for a nice balance.

- Chris16


Dahlin, because there's a far better chance that he didn't allow the puck to get the corner in the first place. Risto's numbers at preventing zone entries and getting the puck out are dreadful. If being a physical freak was so important you wouldn't see the trend to smart, puck-moving D. Risto is neither.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 3 @ 10:34 AM ET
he was like a -864 last year.. almost doubled the next closest to him in tage
- SabresFaninIndiana


There seems to be a correlation between elite tallness and elite minuses. I'll have to dig into the advanced height metrics to suss out what's happening here
sgk56
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.16.2019

Sep 3 @ 10:34 AM ET
Good post.

Honest question: You're an opposing forward on the forecheck, who would you rather battle in corner with - Risto or Dahlin?

Not a shot at Dahlin at all but Risto can battle with the best and he knows how to get opposing forwards off their game. Is there a stat for that?

We need to be more difficult to play against, right? You can't have an entire D corp comprised of puck movers. Need some grit & snarl back there too for a nice balance.

- Chris16


Yep. Lots of softies on the team.

But, but, but , the stats!

Who cares!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:35 AM ET
Tage is Risto, Risto is Tage!

WHAT WOULD TARO DO!?!?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 3 @ 10:35 AM ET
win more hockey games
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:36 AM ET
Well I can read just fine.

Just because i'm not obsessed with stats doesn't mean I'm wrong.

You brought up Tage. Obviously he belonged in the AHL.

Are you saying Risto should have been sent down?

Your argument is weak at best.

- sgk56

i never refer to stats here either. that one just stands out as really bad.

stating a player that had a WAY better +/- stat should be in the AHL does not HELP your argument that he is good at defense.

I am stating that moving him for more scoring does not overly hurt the Defense on this team.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
There seems to be a correlation between elite tallness and elite minuses. I'll have to dig into the advanced height metrics to suss out what's happening here
- jcragcrumple

you might be on to something here..
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
Nice take.

Cut back on the 24mins a night and put him in a position to succeed.

Also we would miss him when the injury bug invariably hits. There would be a bunch of BS on this board when they start calling up no names from the AHL for injury replacement

- sgk56


He’s been in the league for 6 years going on 7 he is basically Jack Johnson move him before he declines
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
Tage is Risto, Risto is Tage!

WHAT WOULD TARO DO!?!?

- jmatchett383


We can all agree Tage is not good, right?
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Sep 3 @ 10:39 AM ET
a -42 is franking horrible no matter how you want to slice it. I could care less either way if he stays or goes. If we can get a RNH for him I would make that trade every day. However I do agree if you move him out, there goes 40+ points from the back end. if the Sabres were ever going to move him now is the time as we have players that can maybe replace him.



TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 3 @ 10:40 AM ET
He’s been in the league for 6 years going on 7 he is basically Jack Johnson move him before he declines
- gerbe75pts


Risto is basically the personification of a 6th round pick which is technically a really late 1st, so he's basically a 1st round caliber player.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:40 AM ET
We can all agree Tage is not good, right?
- jcragcrumple

If he was tough and not a wussy he might be...? idk
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 3 @ 10:41 AM ET
I see +/- is that advanced stat of the day.

Let me go grab some snacks
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:41 AM ET
Yep. Lots of softies on the team.

But, but, but , the stats!

Who cares!

- sgk56


Are we doing the “Ristolainen “ pushes people around argument lol

Chris16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 06.22.2012

Sep 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
Dahlin, because there's a far better chance that he didn't allow the puck to get the corner in the first place. Risto's numbers at preventing zone entries and getting the puck out are dreadful. If being a physical freak was so important you wouldn't see the trend to smart, puck-moving D. Risto is neither.
- Slump Buster



I am not going to argue with anyone because I too have seen Risto play badly.

I just really, really, really want to see him used properly with a more skilled team before we ship him out and he becomes a solid defender on another team.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Sep 3 @ 10:43 AM ET
We can all agree Tage is not good, right?
- jcragcrumple


I don't know this at all. He is a guy that has been rushed to the NHL by two different teams. The guy has a ton of physical talent - we need to let him grow. He was great for Roch at the end of the year last year.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Sep 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
I am not going to argue with anyone because I too have seen Risto play badly.

I just really, really, really want to see him used properly with a more skilled team before we ship him out and he becomes a solid defender on another team.

- Chris16


But that's the thing - if you have to shelter him he isn't worth it. I can name a ton of things that he does poorly and one thing he does well (hit in the corners). Why keep a guy at that salary that is so limited, especially when he might have value to get what you need (top 6 forward)?
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Sep 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
We can all agree Tage is not good, right?
- jcragcrumple


Depends, he is franking awesome at Toe drags..
sgk56
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.16.2019

Sep 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
Are we doing the “Ristolainen “ pushes people around argument lol
- gerbe75pts


Not really

Maybe you could find a few purses for some of the players on the team.

You seem to be that type
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
I don't know this at all. He is a guy that has been rushed to the NHL by two different teams. The guy has a ton of physical talent - we need to let him grow. He was great for Roch at the end of the year last year.
- Slump Buster


I mean he used his gangliness to accidentally break mikko koivu. I guess that's a physical talent
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Sep 3 @ 10:46 AM ET
Michael Pachla: Building the 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres roster--RHD, Rasmus Ristolainen
- Michael Pachla

Pach
You should have put him on your first pairing, boost his trade value
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