Yea I could take him
- gerbe75pts

Yea I could take him
- gerbe75pts

That's a good one.

Kucherov had 6 points in 4 games versus Buffalo last season
- Stripes77

So, about even, 1.5ppg vs Buffalo vs 1.56ppg vs the whole league. If Risto was terrible, those numbers should be much higher.

The first game against Tampa, Risto did play really well and shut him down.

The other 3 well not so much
- Stripes77

Tampa also won 3 out of every 4 games they played. So, once again, even.

- Wetbandit1

I had a nightmare like this where my pants fell down and then my teeth fell out

Come to think of it, that's probably also what would happen in a gerbe vs. Risto fight

Risto...

Pach - you are generous in your placement of Risto, although I do like and agree to the pairing with McCabe ...so just knock those two down to 3rd Pairing and all is well.

I'd prefer for him to be traded, like for Mantha would be decent.
However, I'm ok if they try to rescue his career under Krueger.
The only flip side to that is that if it fails, be prepared to get value like a 3rd liner in return.
It's a gamble.

Montour, Miller are fine 2nd Pairing Dmen.
Risto isn't a 1st pairing, more a 2nd / 3rd tweener.
Montour and Miller can replace his PP time and most of his points on said PP
That leaves Risto with about 22 5v5pts
At $5.4m for a 3rd Pairing Dman trying to be rescued career wise...he really should be moved
Jokiharju at $950 can replace him.

People who say they don't care about the Stats, should also then not care about his 43 Pts and evaluate his play by the eye test to see how defensively deficient and to see how low his hockey IQ is based on the same lunk-head plays he makes.
To answer the question of who I'd rather face in the corner between him and Dahlin...Risto all day, yup he may hit me hard, but chances are I'll retain the puck and be able to lose him on the way to the net...Dahlin steals the puck and buries me in the corner 15 feet behind the play.
- IonSabres

Said the 60 something who just had a stroke. Give me a (frank)ing break. Both would kill you, both would kill me, both would kill every last mother(frank)er on this board. Talk about fake tough guys, JFC!

I should add that I'm not vehemently opposed to trading him provided we get full value and not a bunch of spare parts, but given the last time a big trade was made, call me hesitant.

I was just looking at cap central, The Sabres are going to be shedding a shat load of dead weight after this year. What do the 2020 UFA's look like, we will have like 45 Mil to spend.
- hehateme

Capfriendly is so much better than the dogpoop on this site.

Next time I’m near the boards I’ll get my stick stuck in the corner and make sure I spearmint him in the stomach
- gerbe75pts

This was a line in a pornographic film i recall from my childhood.

So, about even, 1.5ppg vs Buffalo vs 1.56ppg vs the whole league. If Risto was terrible, those numbers should be much higher.
- Wetbandit1

First Tampa game

Sabres 2
Tampa 1

Ristolainen

Shot % - 44%
Scoring chance% - 50%

Not horrible, also not good

Second game - 5 to 4 Tamps

Ristolainen

Shot % - 29%
Scoring chance%- 15%

Pretty awful

Third Tampa game - 5 to 3 Tampa

Ristolainen

Shot % - 31% worst of all D men again
Scoring chance % - 38%

Another pretty bad performance

4th Tampa game 2-1 SO loss

Ristolainen

Shot % - 31% second worst among D
Scoring chance % 30%


Congratulations he had one game where the Sabres were at 50% for either shots or scoring chances while he was on the ice

This was a line in a pornographic film i recall from my childhood.
- Der Kaiser

No offense and I’m not judging but were you into gay pornographic films as a child?

We all know gerbs was/is

Hot take for the night, probably already known within the circles(insiders). Tage Thompson is an entitled brat not very well liked within the room.

Nikita Kucherov against the Sabres

Total individual scoring chances - 18

Average - 4.5 per game

Nikita Kucherov full season -

Total individual scoring chances - 175

Average per game - 2.13


He doubled that against us

First Tampa game

Sabres 2
Tampa 1

Ristolainen

0 points, even, 28:08 ice time, 9 hits, 2 blocked shots

Second game - 5 to 4 Tamps

Ristolainen

1 A, +1, 28:52 ice time, 3 hits, 3 blocked shots

Third Tampa game - 5 to 3 Tampa

Ristolainen

0 points, -1, 23:50 ice time, 3 hits

4th Tampa game 2-1 SO loss

Ristolainen

0 points, even, 26:32 ice time, 4 hits, 1 blocked shot

So, over 4 games he was an even +/-, played the most, hit people and blocked shots. Probably the reason we lost 3 out of 4.

- OneKaneOneCup

Fixed

Fixed
- adambuffalo

He averaged getting 65-70% of the scoring chances against him while he was on the ice.

What. A. Player.

No offense and I’m not judging but were you into gay pornographic films as a child?

We all know gerbs was/is
- IndianaSabresFan

Thank you Indy.

No I wasn't into them. But it sure did sound like that, right?

Hot take for the night, probably already known within the circles(insiders). Tage Thompson is an entitled brat not very well liked within the room.
- Ragenpain

Example, please.

- jcragcrumple

First Tampa game

Sabres 2
Tampa 1

Ristolainen

Shot % - 44%
Scoring chance% - 50%

Not horrible, also not good

Second game - 5 to 4 Tamps

Ristolainen

Shot % - 29%
Scoring chance%- 15%

Pretty awful

Third Tampa game - 5 to 3 Tampa

Ristolainen

Shot % - 31% worst of all D men again
Scoring chance % - 38%

Another pretty bad performance

4th Tampa game 2-1 SO loss

Ristolainen

Shot % - 31% second worst among D
Scoring chance % 30%


Congratulations he had one game where the Sabres were at 50% for either shots or scoring chances while he was on the ice
- OneKaneOneCup

But, again, against a guy who scored over 1.5 points per game, he essentially held serve.

You act like % of shots or scoring chances matter an iota when the sample size has way too much variance to make any sort of difference. If the games were 1,000 minutes long and there were 100,000 games in a season, sure, those stats might hold up over the long run.

Nikita Kucherov against the Sabres

Total individual scoring chances - 18

Average - 4.5 per game

Nikita Kucherov full season -

Total individual scoring chances - 175

Average per game - 2.13

He doubled that against us
- OneKaneOneCup

And yet, managed to score under his average per game.



What kind of chances were they? Scratch that, because the "formula" for rating chances is rife with deficiencies.

But, again, against a guy who scored over 1.5 points per game, he essentially held serve.

You act like % of shots or scoring chances matter an iota when the sample size has way too much variance to make any sort of difference. If the games were 1,000 minutes long and there were 100,000 games in a season, sure, those stats might hold up over the long run.


- Wetbandit1

Kucherov literally doubled his scoring chances per game against us.

In the 2-1 SO game he hit a crossbar and missed a wide open net in the third.

He dominated us

Kucherov literally doubled his scoring chances per game against us.

In the 2-1 SO game he hit a crossbar and missed a wide open net in the third.

He dominated us
- OneKaneOneCup

Watch the video. Then you might understand why your precious stats are pretty much useless as a baseline for anything in hockey.

And yet, managed to score under his average per game.



What kind of chances were they? Scratch that, because the "formula" for rating chances is rife with deficiencies.
- Wetbandit1

Lol, because he hit a crossbar and missed a wide open net within 2 minutes of each other in the third period in that last game.

The fallacy that Risto plays up against better competition is hilariously false

Watch the video. Then you might understand why your precious stats are pretty much useless as a baseline for anything in hockey.
- Wetbandit1

I’m good.

Watch the video. Then you might understand why your precious stats are pretty much useless as a baseline for anything in hockey.
- Wetbandit1

I mean, you’re absolutely right.

Because a puck went an inch too high, on 1 of *10* (frank)ing scoring chances Kucherov had in 1, game, which put him under his “average” for PPG, that actually means Ristolainen played good defense against him.

Sound (frank)ing logic I’ll tell ya.

Flat earthers >>> Risto truthers