That's my line of thinking as well. Also, I'm not certain that Marner is $1M better than Aho.
- PatC80

Maybe not, but I don't think Aho's contract really gets to qualify as a comparable since he was obviously more concerned with term and getting it done quickly than he was with the actual dollar figure attached.

Maybe not, but I don't think Aho's contract really gets to qualify as a comparable since he was obviously more concerned with term and getting it done quickly than he was with the actual dollar figure attached.
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And really wanted to play for the Habs.

Don't forget that part.

And really wanted to play for the Habs.

Don't forget that part.
- Scabeh

oh yeah for sure I mean who wouldn't

Maybe not, but I don't think Aho's contract really gets to qualify as a comparable since he was obviously more concerned with term and getting it done quickly than he was with the actual dollar figure attached.
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wut?

wut?
- Tumbleweed

He took less money than the other guys are going to get in order to force the Canes into finishing negotiations quickly.

He didn't want negotiations to drag on, and the Canes made it clear they weren't going to offer a 5 year term, so they signed an offer sheet with Montreal they were pretty sure would get matched.

Like, what's worst case scenario for Aho in that situation? He ends up in Montreal? Oh no, how terrible.

I hope Mitchy's camp realizes this is a totally different situation than Nylander last year.

Nylander sitting to start the season helped the cap situation.

With every game Mitchy sits this year, it reduces the amount they can give him.

That's a nice little bit of leverage that Dubas has.
- Atomic Wedgie

oh im sure they know all about that.
as mentioned in the Dubas/Bob mac interview yesterday, its the opposite to Willie.

So sign the deal Mitch

He took less money than the other guys are going to get in order to force the Canes into finishing negotiations quickly.

He didn't want negotiations to drag on, and the Canes made it clear they weren't going to offer a 5 year term, so they signed an offer sheet with Montreal they were pretty sure would get matched.

Like, what's worst case scenario for Aho in that situation? He ends up in Montreal? Oh no, how terrible.
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eichel and mcdavid play in buffalo and edmonton. those teams need to overpay their players to stay.

so that makes timo meier the best comparable.

am i doing it right?

eichel and mcdavid play in buffalo and edmonton. those teams need to overpay their players to stay.

so that makes timo meier the best comparable.

am i doing it right?
- Tumbleweed

I have no idea what you're talking about.

The best comparable contracts for Marner haven't been signed yet, which is the problem across the board.

They should all be in that $9-9.5 range, IMO.

Clayton Keller

8 years, 7,15M per.

Done.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

The best comparable contracts for Marner haven't been signed yet, which is the problem across the board.

They should all be in that $9-9.5 range, IMO.
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yes. it makes no sense to use a bunch of subjective arguments to say a contract is not comparable.

Clayton Keller

8 years, 7,15M per.

Done.
- Scabeh

BEDLAM

Clayton Keller

8 years, 7,15M per.

Done.
- Scabeh

yes. it makes no sense to use a bunch of subjective arguments to say a contract is not comparable.
- Tumbleweed

Context is important.

An offer sheet signed for below market value doesn't seem like a fair comparable.

Do you have an AED in the office and someone (preferably more than one) who is trained in CPR?
- Atomic Wedgie

Yes we do actually..

Lucas can poop a Richard!

I assume it has to be said in order for us all to have good conversation!

Otherwise, Lucas can suck a...

I'm going to leave this to all of you! What will Lucas suck?
- Thecakeisalie

A 2 mouth fish.

Clayton Keller

8 years, 7,15M per.

Done.
- Scabeh

nice. I saw that.

Context is important.

An offer sheet signed for below market value doesn't seem like a fair comparable.
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$8.5M/year isn't some lowball outlier.

it was the definition of a market value deal.

yes. it makes no sense to use a bunch of subjective arguments to say a contract is not comparable.
- Tumbleweed

The basics of HB..

- AdamFrench

lol yeah.

He scored 14 goals last year.

$8.5M/year isn't some lowball outlier.

it was the definition of a market value deal.
- Tumbleweed

it's about a million too low.

it's about a million too low.
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That's what you're willing to give up to play for a team you really like.

lol yeah.

He scored 14 goals last year.
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Guess they're betting on him to keep improving while also considering how the cap rising will help make this deal look better down the line.

It's not horrible.

lol yeah.

He scored 14 goals last year.
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It will more than likely turn out to be a solid deal down the road...but my god.

That's what you're willing to give up to play for a team you really like.
- Scabeh

Jesus christ.

It's been two months of the same 3 jokes.

Guess they're betting on him to keep improving while also considering how the cap rising will help make this deal look better down the line.

It's not horrible.
- Scabeh

Yeah, even if he tops out as like a 25 goal guy it'll look fine in a couple years, but sheesh it seems high right now.