there was just absolutely no reason to give him this contract at this point in time

I hope if Kappo Kakko has a 47 point sophmore season the Rangers don't go ahead and give him an extension of 7.1 million a year
- jimbo83

Let's say Keller has another 75+ pts this upcoming season. Yotes would be in a much worse position. They'd be giving him same $$ he's getting with this new contract for a bridge deal and a much bigger decision for a long term one. If Keller has another season like the last or better than deal is fine. Nice to see a team be proactive and believe in a homegrown player.. salaries continue to going up every season.

"Obviously defense matters but in over 90% of cases, a good defensive play is irrelevant because the goalie would have saved the puck regardless."

Does this same point apply to corsi and shots taken stats? For example, I am curious in the case of someone who is a +55% corsi player, how many shots on goal would that typically equate to, and if the average shooting percentage is around 10%, how many goals would that equate to?

"Obviously defense matters but in over 90% of cases, a good defensive play is irrelevant because the goalie would have saved the puck regardless."

Does this same point apply to corsi and shots taken stats? For example, I am curious in the case of someone who is a +55% corsi player, how many shots on goal would that typically equate to, and if the average shooting percentage is around 10%, how many goals would that equate to?
- lemieux_66

What Tanner misses in his narrow minded view is what that good defensive play creates. In a lot of cases in creates transition the other way and creates a shooting opportunity . Stopping shot attempts by the opposition and creating shot opportunities for yourself leads to that good corsi rating that Tanner prays to and holds so dear. It's just another case of a statement that is contradictory and not well thought out.

keep up the good work jimmy. I appreciate your comments as you are by far the most entertaining blogger on this site. Seriously how can one not appreciate a person who thinks cody franson is a #1 dman.

The problem is this is the 4th type of contract like this that Chayka
has handed out and the longest and most expensive.

He better hope that a couple of Keller,Schmaltz, Dvorak and Chychrun
earn the contracts.That's over $22 million a year he's tied up.

Obviously defense matters but in over 90% of cases, a good defensive play is irrelevant because the goalie would have saved the puck regardless.



Where do you come up with a statistic like this? A bad defensive play could result in say a 2 on 1 or breakaway. In which case I beg you to find a stat saying. The goalie is gonna stop that 90 percent of the time. How can you even track and quantify bad defensive plays and the goalies save percentage in those bad plays. What a joke. 60 percent of the time your right, everytime tanner.

ooof. brutal take.

Obviously defense matters but in over 90% of cases, a good defensive play is irrelevant because the goalie would have saved the puck regardless.



Where do you come up with a statistic like this? A bad defensive play could result in say a 2 on 1 or breakaway. In which case I beg you to find a stat saying. The goalie is gonna stop that 90 percent of the time. How can you even track and quantify bad defensive plays and the goalies save percentage in those bad plays. What a joke. 60 percent of the time your right, everytime tanner.
- Trevrrrgavo

Get someone to explain averages to you, holy christ.

Thanks tips. Great explanation.

Just feel free to show me the proof that goalies stop 90percent of all shots that led from a bad defensive play.

Get someone to explain averages to you, holy christ.
- James_Tanner

You badly missed what he was saying.

You badly missed what he was saying.

- MJL

Reading comprehension (or comprehension of anything else really) isnt a Tanner strong suit.

Maybe try singing it to the tune of some garbage prog song next time. Might get a better result.

Just feel free to show me the proof that goalies stop 90percent of all shots that led from a bad defensive play.
- Trevrrrgavo

Tanner is clueless. He used the average of all shots in aggregate regardless of quality that goalies will stop a puck 90% of the time. Obviously he made a hilariously bad hot take and applying it to "bad defensively plays".

They track these things called high danger scoring chances and shorthanded save percentage to quantify exactly that, but of course Tanner can't look that up because he has no idea what he's talking about, ever.

Halak was the BEST goalie in the NHL last year (at least 25 games played) in high danger save percentage at .889

Korpisalo was the worst goalie with a .780 pct

So yeah, this whole goalies by default stop .900 of bad defensive plays is not even close to accurate

Tanner is clueless. He used the average of all shots in aggregate regardless of quality that goalies will stop a puck 90% of the time. Obviously he made a hilariously bad hot take and applying it to "bad defensively plays".

They track these things called high danger scoring chances and shorthanded save percentage to quantify exactly that, but of course Tanner can't look that up because he has no idea what he's talking about, ever.

Halak was the BEST goalie in the NHL last year (at least 25 games played) in high danger save percentage at .889

Korpisalo was the worst goalie with a .780 pct

So yeah, this whole goalies by default stop .900 of bad defensive plays is not even close to accurate
- Stan_Bowman

It's all part of the Tanner methodology. Cherry pick whatever stat fits your premise. Ignore the rest.

You're terrible at quoting people. Why would i ever consider Max Domis face off percentage? I can assure you i never mentioned it.

Plus Keller is way, way, way better than Domi.
- James Tanner


Domi is way better than Keller! 72pts last year, plays centre, and is tough as nails.

Why don’t you go out and keep spending your time putting Hughes into polls of NHL centres...... he’s obviously better than Aho, you know, since Aho scored over 80pts last season, and Hughes has played ZERO games in the NHL.

Your bias is so bad that you include players into articles/polls/opinion pieces that don’t even play in the league.

YOU SUCK!!!

Get someone to explain averages to you, holy christ.
- James_Tanner

You do the same for sample size.

It's a good contract.

But my lord do you say some of the dumbest things sometimes. Have you considered the fact that goalies save percentages are high because teams care about defense. If you start giving up breakaways all game your goaltenders save percentage will not be in the 90s.

You don't need defense because goalies stop pucks is a window licking level of thinking.

It's a good contract.

But my lord do you say some of the dumbest things sometimes. Have you considered the fact that goalies save percentages are high because teams care about defense. If you start giving up breakaways all game your goaltenders save percentage will not be in the 90s.

You don't need defense because goalies stop pucks is a window licking level of thinking.
- Njuice

The real question needs to be...Do you RENT?,,...Or OWN said window?

It's a good contract.

But my lord do you say some of the dumbest things sometimes. Have you considered the fact that goalies save percentages are high because teams care about defense. If you start giving up breakaways all game your goaltenders save percentage will not be in the 90s.

You don't need defense because goalies stop pucks is a window licking level of thinking.
- Njuice

Maybe I just did a bad job of explaining what I meant. I like to assume people who are reading have at least a grade 2 level of cognitive ability, so it's probably my fault. How this could be your response, let alone the fact you're attempting to be condescending about it, is beyond me. One of the craziest comments I've gotten here in six years. Honestly, unreal.

Maybe I just did a bad job of explaining what I meant. I like to assume people who are reading have at least a grade 2 level of cognitive ability, so it's probably my fault. How this could be your response, let alone the fact you're attempting to be condescending about it, is beyond me. One of the craziest comments I've gotten here in six years. Honestly, unreal.
- James_Tanner

Perhaps you should take a hint. None of the comments on this blog post agree with your point of view. Not one. You get poop on on every single blog piece you write. When’re you gonna understand that what you write is mediocre at best? You truly think you’re a good journalist?

Being biased happens to the best of us, especially in sports. But continuing to deny it, retracting into your shell when you get called out for it, never improving the quality of your work despite such blatant outcries and resorting to insulting others because you can’t actually defend your poorly constructed point is the sign of a terrible writer.

You suck, Tanner. No one here respects you.

Maybe I just did a bad job of explaining what I meant. I like to assume people who are reading have at least a grade 2 level of cognitive ability, so it's probably my fault. How this could be your response, let alone the fact you're attempting to be condescending about it, is beyond me. One of the craziest comments I've gotten here in six years. Honestly, unreal.
- James_Tanner

If your so confident in your statement why not elaborate on it if you think you did a bad job of explaining what you meant? That is what a reasonable person would do. You chose again to fall back to insulting a person rather than further discuss your point. Reality is that your statement has been thoroughly torn to shreds and you have no ground to stand on.

The real question needs to be...Do you RENT?,,...Or OWN said window?
- camfor

Own the window, rent the house. Take it and it's advanced energy statistics with you when you move

Remember the time James got owned by Bill Meltzer in his own blog

ohh and nylanders contract for what he did and what hes doing
considering with who is playing with ... its not that wonderfull either sorry :D
- tankorr

First of all, Nylander's contract has gotten so much more negativity than Keller's has.

Are you aware Nylander's cap hit is less and his stats are better than Keller's in every category?

Also, regarding the Matthews excuse, check out each player TOI. Nylander has played a lot less TOI and 1 minute less PP TOI per game than Keller. That really offsets the excuse about who plays with better players,.

Tanner, pm me. Let's read some books your're cooking up.