Interesting that in the jets free scrimmage today (no coaches). The players put shief with Roslovic and Copp out against little, wheels and Ehlers. I for one have no issue with these lines starting the season!!!

Your first paragraph is not true, sure it applies to some but other ms excel in sports for very long time and have very few negative results where Maurice has many.

Maurice being around as long as he has also has a lot to do with Rutherford loving him so much and being responsible for hiring him so many times and also giving him a chance before he was ready.

I’ll say it again. I like Maurice but honestly think he was and is better suited as a career assistant coach not head man.
- Ross77

I was not a fan of Maurice in Hartford, Carolina or Toronto... but I am OK with him on the Jets for now.

His lifetime record is tough to judge as it was always a low budget team in Hartford/Carolina with a forgettable cast of players and the Toronto team was a joke with washed up talent, porous goaltending, crippling blue flue and organizational chaos.

His first 1/2 season in Wpg was lauded as a great success, however, as I recall it started with about a 8 game win streak that can be attributed to the talent that was already in the room as much as to Maurice. After that win streak his numbers looked a lot more like Noel's teams. To his credit it was Maurice who first trusted Buff as a full time D, saw the emergence of talent such as Sheifele, Morrissey, Connor, Ehlers, Trouba and a few more.

EDIT: giving Maurice credit for a win streak in his first games is not merited as his mark on the team was not yet made. The streak was welcome but due simply to having a change.

Unlike many on this board I believe PM's systems can work when the players commit and execute the plan and this was proven in 2017/18. Last year the committment and execution by the players was not up to the same standard. Part of the coach's job is to cause players to play at a high level and the Jets failed last year, something wrong with the chemistry... the veteran coach needs to find a solution to this quickly or he will rightfully be on the hotseat.

Dano is still likely to make the Jackets, Petan was traded into a log jam of talent where he was still better than some regulars when he got in, Postma plays big minutes at the 2nd highest level in the world, and Enstrom was the best shutdown dman in the NHL at the time he walked away.
- Rexypoo

It should be black and white for Maurice and his coaching staff this year. Make the playoffs or your fired.
Problem is the Jets talent will keep them hanging around a playoff spot all year and if they miss by a win or three Maurice will mention how he had an inexperienced defense this year, but they made strides, and will talk his way into coaching the Jets next year.

Werenski $5 MM aav is a bit of a gauge for Morrissey. I'd be happy though at a long term 6.5 MM per.

- sparky1957

Not sure if funny or actually sad......hell, I'll go with funny also !

Werenski $5 MM aav is a bit of a gauge for Morrissey. I'd be happy though at a long term 6.5 MM per.
- jetsnation

You have to pay close attention to the contract that last year is at 7 million, meaning that the Blue Jackets have to qualify him at, at least 10% (if I am right) more on his next contract. Very similar to what Timo Meier did in San Jose who’s last year annual income is at 10 million.

Wow! Just hearing Copp’s comments on radio. Arbitration process did not go well. Won’t be surprised to see him leave Winnipeg! Must have a great agent 🙄

Wow! Just hearing Copp’s comments on radio. Arbitration process did not go well. Won’t be surprised to see him leave Winnipeg! Must have a great agent 🙄
- Jetter

No player ever has come out of arbitration and liked the process.

Not sure if funny or actually sad......hell, I'll go with funny also !
- bennythehat

Maybe this works better for you Benny...

Wow! Just hearing Copp’s comments on radio. Arbitration process did not go well. Won’t be surprised to see him leave Winnipeg! Must have a great agent 🙄
- Jetter

If Chevy thought Copp had any chance of being a 2c, he should have just handed him Tanev money

Postma has found his niche in a league which suits his level of talent. He was born to play defence against the likes of O'Dell, Cormier, Sexton, Shirikov, and the rest of the 30 and over boys.

Where do old Moose go to pasture ? The KHL !
- bennythehat

Just admit you know 0 about the KHL. It’s okay

Maurice didn't last this long in the league because he misjudged a lot of talent.

The Jets are going to miss Myers, Trouba, Chairot and Tanev far more than people think. Myers will look like (barring injury) an all-star when judged against the current replacements.

All of Myers, Chiariot and Tanev would be back if the Jets could fit them under the salary cap. Other teams who picked these guys up didn't pick them up because they suck. No, they valued them (maybe overvalued $$$ wise?). Do you think all the other teams' pro scouts are dumb/blind?
- grahamzky

The Jets won’t miss any of them. At all.
But they’ll struggle with Pionk in the top 4, Niku marooned next to Kulikov, and Poolman not playing at all while Morrissey and Buff try to hold it together.

The Jets won’t miss any of them. At all.
But they’ll struggle with Pionk in the top 4, Niku marooned next to Kulikov, and Poolman not playing at all while Morrissey and Buff try to hold it together.
- Rexypoo

So with the Jets struggling with Pionk in the top four, Niku marooned with Kulikov, and Poolman not playing (or playing for that matter), you don't think the Jets will miss Chiarot, Myers or Trouba? Really? And when Buff goes down?

And Tanev was the most energetic Jets forward last year, he played with the most desperation. The previous year the Jets had success due to playing desperation hockey, and you don't think the Jets will miss Tanev this season? Interesting! You obviously have a different take on Tanev than the Penguins scouts.

Peter Tessier: Change needs to come- here's a starting point
Taking a look at last season and where the changes the coaches will make should be.
- Peter.Tessier

Another shoutout to Chevy. A+ job on walking away from bad contracts. Chiarot for 3.5M AAV, Trouba 8M AAV, Meyers 6M AAV. All big over payments.

Look at Butcher's 3.5M AAV, Werenski 5M AAV with RFA rights after 3 seasons, Gardiner 4M AAV.

Clear winners and losers. I know Butch and Zach were RFA's, but these signings are bargains. Would have been great to ditch Kuli and give that money to Gardiner but obviously the current contract talks are keeping Chevy's wallet closed for the time being.

So with the Jets struggling with Pionk in the top four, Niku marooned with Kulikov, and Poolman not playing (or playing for that matter), you don't think the Jets will miss Chiarot, Myers or Trouba? Really? And when Buff goes down?

And Tanev was the most energetic Jets forward last year, he played with the most desperation. The previous year the Jets had success due to playing desperation hockey, and you don't think the Jets will miss Tanev this season? Interesting! You obviously have a different take on Tanev than the Penguins scouts.
- grahamzky

If perrault can stay healthy, he will be a better version of Tanev offensivly. He will lack some grit, but there is still Lowry, Copp, etc. I think Shaehan would have been a great addition for that role as well, but he went to Edmonton. As for the D, I think the best balanced approach would be:

Morrissey Buff
Niku Poolman
Kuli Pionk

Poolman is a very solid D who can play a shutdown role like Chiarot, maybe even better. And it is time to see what Niku can do in the show. The bottom pairing will need very low TOI. Gardiner would have been a stellar pickup, but obviously that ship has sailed.

Just admit you know 0 about the KHL. It’s okay
- Rexypoo

You go first......

Dano is still likely to make the Jackets, Petan was traded into a log jam of talent where he was still better than some regulars when he got in, Postma plays big minutes at the 2nd highest level in the world, and Enstrom was the best shutdown dman in the NHL at the time he walked away.
- Rexypoo

Good God Man!

Dano- Plug- Opportunities were given, he’s just not talented enough.

Petan- Bust- Smaller than a decimal point and soft as Charmin.

Postma- Fringe player- KHL or AHL at best.

Enstrom- Washed Up- Played small at the end and was always hurt it seemed. Got caved in defensively. If he was offered an NHL contract he would have taken it.

Why do you guys seem to be always arguing about these bums in your thread?

If perrault can stay healthy, he will be a better version of Tanev offensivly. He will lack some grit, but there is still Lowry, Copp, etc. I think Shaehan would have been a great addition for that role as well, but he went to Edmonton. As for the D, I think the best balanced approach would be:

Morrissey Buff
Niku Poolman
Kuli Pionk

Poolman is a very solid D who can play a shutdown role like Chiarot, maybe even better. And it is time to see what Niku can do in the show. The bottom pairing will need very low TOI. Gardiner would have been a stellar pickup, but obviously that ship has sailed.
- bikeguy99

Perreault used to be better maybe than Tanev offensively, but last year equal with Tanev zero power play time that I can recall. Mathieu has been brittle in past years, not getting any younger. My guess for D - Morrissey-Pionk, Beaulieu-Buff and Kuli-Niku, with Sammy seeing some PP minutes, maybe a lot. Poolman - very solid D ? - must have improved in the AHL last season. If Niku put on 20 lbs of muscle during the summer, he could be one of most improved players on team/league. Muscle is what he lacked.
Do you really think that Jake Gardiner had Winnipeg on his shopping list? To my way of thinking it was either Toronto or the US of A.
I'm hoping that it is Copp-Lowry-Appleton on third line. Appleton is a digger!

Perreault used to be better maybe than Tanev offensively, but last year equal with Tanev zero power play time that I can recall. Mathieu has been brittle in past years, not getting any younger. My guess for D - Morrissey-Pionk, Beaulieu-Buff and Kuli-Niku, with Sammy seeing some PP minutes, maybe a lot. Poolman - very solid D ? - must have improved in the AHL last season. If Niku put on 20 lbs of muscle during the summer, he could be one of most improved players on team/league. Muscle is what he lacked.
Do you really think that Jake Gardiner had Winnipeg on his shopping list? To my way of thinking it was either Toronto or the US of A.
I'm hoping that it is Copp-Lowry-Appleton on third line. Appleton is a digger!
- grahamzky

Appleton is fantastic! I think him and Ras are very underrated, and could team up with Perrault for a dangerous 3rd line. As for Gardiner, he had some serious woes in very important games, but he is good for 45 points per 82 games and was not given the credit he deserves. I don;t know if Peg was on his radar, but Carolina at 4M per sure doesn't look to desiring to me. And keep an eye on Poolman. He just might suprise you. Bealieu was pretty painful for me to watch. I see him as bottom pairing, maybe healthy scratch for much of the season. Tons of pressure on Niku! Competition for a top 4 spot is on so he needs to play with the same confidence he does with the Moose.

Appleton is fantastic! I think him and Ras are very underrated, and could team up with Perrault for a dangerous 3rd line. As for Gardiner, he had some serious woes in very important games, but he is good for 45 points per 82 games and was not given the credit he deserves. I don;t know if Peg was on his radar, but Carolina at 4M per sure doesn't look to desiring to me. And keep an eye on Poolman. He just might suprise you. Bealieu was pretty painful for me to watch. I see him as bottom pairing, maybe healthy scratch for much of the season. Tons of pressure on Niku! Competition for a top 4 spot is on so he needs to play with the same confidence he does with the Moose.
- bikeguy99

I'm hoping Ras is on 2nd line TBH. Perreault can play wherever fairly decently but Jets ware stronger when he is 4th line. Needs to pick his spots to make his hits, doesn't have to finish every check, to stay healthy.

Gardiner might get 55 pts in 75 games but still a liability - a liability with back issues. No thanks even if he wanted to come. Gardiner says "Can't wait to get to the great city of Raleigh." $$$ talk!

Beaulieu played better than expected and is Chiarot's successor. Provides some much needed toughness. Hope you are right about Poolman, I'm definitely a "wait and see."

Niku will be just fine offensively, just needs to have the muscle to play better defensively. If he handle the traffic, we have ourselves a very decent d-man. But still, right now, the team desperately needs a top pairing RH D.

Good God Man!

Dano- Plug- Opportunities were given, he’s just not talented enough.

Petan- Bust- Smaller than a decimal point and soft as Charmin.

Postma- Fringe player- KHL or AHL at best.

Enstrom- Washed Up- Played small at the end and was always hurt it seemed. Got caved in defensively. If he was offered an NHL contract he would have taken it.

Why do you guys seem to be always arguing about these bums in your thread?
- DrunkenCanuck

One regular in particular uses advanced analytics as indisputable empirical evidence to support his case that these four are better options for the Jets and most any NHL team than current players and that they were done wrong by Maurice and by incompetence of all NHL brass.

One regular in particular uses advanced analytics as indisputable empirical evidence to support his case that these four are better options for the Jets and most any NHL team than current players and that they were done wrong by Maurice and by incompetence of all NHL brass.
- 2.0

Wow. Has to be trolling, can’t really believe that.

Wow. Has to be trolling, can’t really believe that.
- DrunkenCanuck

I do not think so. The opinions expressed normally have a passionate plea to them. The opinions are also similar to a prominent Twitter poster as well.

I'm hoping Ras is on 2nd line TBH. Perreault can play wherever fairly decently but Jets ware stronger when he is 4th line. Needs to pick his spots to make his hits, doesn't have to finish every check, to stay healthy.

Gardiner might get 55 pts in 75 games but still a liability - a liability with back issues. No thanks even if he wanted to come. Gardiner says "Can't wait to get to the great city of Raleigh." $$$ talk!

Beaulieu played better than expected and is Chiarot's successor. Provides some much needed toughness. Hope you are right about Poolman, I'm definitely a "wait and see."

Niku will be just fine offensively, just needs to have the muscle to play better defensively. If he handle the traffic, we have ourselves a very decent d-man. But still, right now, the team desperately needs a top pairing RH D.
- grahamzky

Bealieau could not make Buffalo's horrendous defense last year and was their number 7. I cannot see him working out, especially in the big bad Central division.