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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Sep 11 @ 11:46 AM ET
Time to seek trades involving Marner
- walshyleafsfan


I was just going to ask this. The leafs have to at least start entertaining the idea that he has to be traded. If he's turning down 7 years at 11 or the shorter bridge deals, it seems like his time is done.

The leafs can't afford for him to miss any games and they can't afford to have him sit out the whole season. It would be nice to trade for a top 6 forward and defense in a marner deal. Konecny and provorov+ would work.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I take Joel for walks around the block, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 11 @ 11:46 AM ET
MARNERDOOMPORN!
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 11 @ 11:46 AM ET
Dreger's report says "as much as 12 milly in the final year" ....there are clearly a bunch of conflicting reports this morning.

That just tells me the final push is being made by both sides to put pressure on each other.

- The Law



Maybe he just doesn't want to be a Leaf.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 11 @ 11:47 AM ET
Yeah, I heard that too, they offered him 3/30M but $10m per season.

Rejected it, because he wants to make 12-15M in salary on the last year of the deal.

- PatC80

If true.

That is facked up and wont sit well with me.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 11 @ 11:47 AM ET
Lol
He wanted to help out the leafs so he sat out?
Where are getting this info? Jesus. He sat for more money and then didnt want to miss the season.
Willie started this, now alot of rfas are following.

- Fakepartofme



Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie · 46m46 minutes ago

TOR has made seven and eight year offers in the $11M AAV universe but because it’s a lower AAV and longer term than Auston Matthews, it hasn’t been palatable to Marner.

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I take Joel for walks around the block, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 11 @ 11:47 AM ET
I was just going to ask this. The leafs have to at least start entertaining the idea that he has to be traded. If he's turning down 7 years at 11 or the shorter bridge deals, it seems like his time is done.

The leafs can't afford for him to miss any games and they can't afford to have him sit out the whole season. It would be nice to trade for a top 6 forward and defense in a marner deal. Konecny and provorov+ would work.

- matt1337

Well.. technically they can absolutely afford having him sit for awhile. Leafs are making the playoffs.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 11 @ 11:48 AM ET
Willie just doing them a solid like the good Western Canadian boy he is, not like that Toronto snob.
- BINGO!

Exactly. More team guys and we might stand a chance to Boston once in a while. Get nowhere with egos like Mitch. Really should look at trading Mitch to a team that has 25m spare to squeeze him in.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Sep 11 @ 11:48 AM ET
Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie · 46m46 minutes ago

TOR has made seven and eight year offers in the $11M AAV universe but because it’s a lower AAV and longer term than Auston Matthews, it hasn’t been palatable to Marner.

- PatC80
That's rough man

how do you not take the equivalent to JTs UFA contract?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 11 @ 11:49 AM ET
If true.

That is facked up and wont sit well with me.

- Fakepartofme



It has to be true, IMO.. There is way to much smoke for there not to be a fire.
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Sep 11 @ 11:49 AM ET
Dreger's report says "as much as 12 milly in the final year" ....there are clearly a bunch of conflicting reports this morning.

That just tells me the final push is being made by both sides to put pressure on each other.

- The Law


Trade him and end all this. Honestly, Mitch is an amazing player but leafs can't afford to succumb to his demands. Would've been nice to have another Canadian boy who grew up loving the leafs on the roster but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 11 @ 11:49 AM ET
Dreger's report says "as much as 12 milly in the final year" ....there are clearly a bunch of conflicting reports this morning.

That just tells me the final push is being made by both sides to put pressure on each other.

- The Law

I don't trust anything dreger reports.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 11 @ 11:50 AM ET
That's rough man

how do you not take the equivalent to JTs UFA contract?

- RickJames77


That's what gets me. How do you turn down the Tavares contract? Especially when you'll be, what, 28-29 years old at the end of it?
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Sep 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
Well.. technically they can absolutely afford having him sit for awhile. Leafs are making the playoffs.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


With how the cap situation works, any missed games the first year cap hit gets condensed, they really can't afford to let him sit. Just like the Nylander situation but they had the cap room to do that.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
That's rough man

how do you not take the equivalent to JTs UFA contract?

- RickJames77


Bobby Mac even said in the '$11M universe' meaning it was probably more than $11M
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I take Joel for walks around the block, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
That's what gets me. How do you turn down the Tavares contract? Especially when you'll be, what, 28-29 years old at the end of it?
- BINGO!

Its all based on projection now..

Marner will probably be a better player than JT in a couple years..
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 11 @ 11:52 AM ET
Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie · 46m46 minutes ago

TOR has made seven and eight year offers in the $11M AAV universe but because it’s a lower AAV and longer term than Auston Matthews, it hasn’t been palatable to Marner.

- PatC80

Ugh. Didnt see this.
Its bob too. I trust him.
Marners agent wants a toews/kane kinda deal it looks like.
Still time to sign.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 11 @ 11:52 AM ET
Mirtle on the radio this morning is when i heard about it
- Fakepartofme


https://post.futurimedia....html?cb=1568203561.458977

In the first minute of this mornings interview Mirtle says the Leafs offered "bridge close to 9 million and long term close to 11 million"

He then says that he had heard that MM camp proposed "3 x 10"
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 11 @ 11:53 AM ET
Dreger's report says "as much as 12 milly in the final year" ....there are clearly a bunch of conflicting reports this morning.

That just tells me the final push is being made by both sides to put pressure on each other.

- The Law

I'd do $12 milly in the final year.

His next contract would be after a new CBA and a new US TV contract.

You qualify him at 1 year, $12 million, and then negotiate.

$12 million for a top forward in 2022-23 isn't that bad.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 11 @ 11:53 AM ET
That's what gets me. How do you turn down the Tavares contract? Especially when you'll be, what, 28-29 years old at the end of it?
- BINGO!


Exactly, Marner's not at Tavares' or Matthews' level.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 11 @ 11:53 AM ET
I don't trust anything dreger reports.
- Fakepartofme


Me neither. Marner's agent has been using Dreger to try and pressure the Leafs, but he's rather tone deaf if he doesn't hear the response from people that his demands are not getting him any sympathy with the fan base.

If any of these reports are true - that Marner doesn't want a 3x10 deal, or that anything less than Matthews' 11.6m deal is not acceptable, he'll have to be traded.

The game of chicken is still being played, but once training camp officially starts, the final offer has to be made, and then the trade talk has to begin, or Mitch Marner can sit a year without playing hockey in the NHL.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 11 @ 11:55 AM ET
https://post.futurimedia.com/chumam/playlist/89/listen-17103.html?cb=1568203561.458977

In the first minute of this mornings interview Mirtle says the Leafs offered "bridge close to 9 million and long term close to 11 million"

He then says that he had heard that MM camp proposed "3 x 10"

- The Law

Then get it done, Dubas.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 11 @ 11:55 AM ET
Its all based on projection now..

Marner will probably be a better player than JT in a couple years..

- Arctic_AARDVARK


I mean, maybe? He isn't today, though. $11 million per is probably a slight overpay for the first year or two.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 11 @ 11:56 AM ET
That's what gets me. How do you turn down the Tavares contract? Especially when you'll be, what, 28-29 years old at the end of it?
- BINGO!


I, personally, am enjoying every minute of this.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 11 @ 11:56 AM ET
Exactly, Marner's not at Tavares' or Matthews' level.
- PatC80

Well, hes not that far below matthews either.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 11 @ 11:56 AM ET
Me neither. Marner's agent has been using Dreger to try and pressure the Leafs, but he's rather tone deaf if he doesn't hear the response from people that his demands are not getting him any sympathy with the fan base.

If any of these reports are true - that Marner doesn't want a 3x10 deal, or that anything less than Matthews' 11.6m deal is not acceptable, he'll have to be traded.

The game of chicken is still being played, but once training camp officially starts, the final offer has to be made, and then the trade talk has to begin, or Mitch Marner can sit a year without playing hockey in the NHL.

- Monkeypunk

This means absolutely nothing.

The agent doesn't care.

Nor should he.
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